Have you seen the new units? Those pesky kite-scrubbing Condors could soon be pointless (forgive me) with the introduction of Mobile Micro Jump Units. If the build price of 1m ISK is true I will add one to my standard brawler loadouts.

Don't forget - The condors will be able to use it too.

So fit a scram if you want to stop someone form MJD'ing? Kiting isn't the be all and end all of eve online, nor should it be.

Sure. Of course there are ways to stop it. The point is that it pretty much kills a particular solo style (nano kiting) which although annoying is a perfectly valid way to fight.

But it doesn't. The new MJD thingy moves a given ship 100km after 12 seconds. A t2 longpoint with heat can do 28km. Since they cant change direction during the mjd cycle, you know exactly where they're going.

That means that you have 12 seconds to cover 72km. Depending on your position with respect to their align direction, that distance can be significantly reduced. And given that the new mjd has an anchoring time, you have plenty of time to get a headstart on potential align points, as dependent on the situation.

So, just as it is possible that they will escape using an MJD, so too is it possible for you to catch them on the other side.

Honestly, I think turnabout is fair play. Kiters could attempt to disengage on a whim against brawlers, now brawlers have the same opportunity. If you don't fully commit to a fight, some of your targets will get away, as it should be.

But it doesn't. The new MJD thingy moves a given ship 100km after 12 seconds. A t2 longpoint with heat can do 28km. Since they cant change direction during the mjd cycle, you know exactly where they're going.

That means that you have 12 seconds to cover 72km. Depending on your position with respect to their align direction, that distance can be significantly reduced. And given that the new mjd has an anchoring time, you have plenty of time to get a headstart on potential align points, as dependent on the situation.

So, just as it is possible that they will escape using an MJD, so too is it possible for you to catch them on the other side.

Honestly, I think turnabout is fair play. Kiters could attempt to disengage on a whim against brawlers, now brawlers have the same opportunity. If you don't fully commit to a fight, some of your targets will get away, as it should be.

Also, +1 to the people said that kiters currently have the option to disengage at any point, and now brawlers will get a chance to have that same luxury, depending on how good the kiter is.

I'm cautiously looking at this module from this angle, especially since with the spool up time a faster kiter should be able to get a shot at intercepting the landing point. (especially if the brawler can't cancel the MJD spool up part way through).

tbh, the mjd is pretty stupid.

such a big get out of jail free card

really need to put some sort of aggression timer on it

Have you seen the new units? Those pesky kite-scrubbing Condors could soon be pointless (forgive me) with the introduction of Mobile Micro Jump Units. If the build price of 1m ISK is true I will add one to my standard brawler loadouts.

Why whine when u can use a scram?

chessur and gorski gonna be so mad! i will never loose my vengeance to them again! muahahaha

second of all if you are any good you press align on a celestial and then activate the mobile mjd.

Also why would anyone ever brawl a vengeance that's like the most ******** thing in eve.

Yeah. Considering it's a fixed 12s windup, plus 20 seconds to anchor, it's still quite possible to point somebody at the other end.

Also, +1 to the people said that kiters currently have the option to disengage at any point, and now brawlers will get a chance to have that same luxury, depending on how good the kiter is.

My god know us was right, they can't read....


*clears throat*

It was clearly stated that this kills Kiting ships. Thats why they can't use a scram. I hope you understand and i need not explain further...

I'm cautiously looking at this module from this angle, especially since with the spool up time a faster kiter should be able to get a shot at intercepting the landing point. (especially if the brawler can't cancel the MJD spool up part way through).

Kiters have that by paying huge sacrifices on their ships. This module is no sacrifice at all. While the only way to disable any of them is the same.. the scram that pull it into brwler sure victory position.

Question: can a bastionned maraudeur use the thing, as was implied in another topic ?
Would make it able to jump without being tackable and then jump anew with its fitted own MJD once out of scram range; 200 kms in 10 seconds, not bad for a bigass space truck with very long range potential...

Just saying, I see a kiter burning in the direction of my align during the 12s, I'll align to a different celestial in a different direction before the 12s timer. If they didn't start burning before I land, I'll just warp on jump. Really, GL kiter, you'd best have the DPS to kill me before I drop the mod.



Those kiting Condors can pull off one of their TDs/Damps/utility mids and put on a scram. Then, when they see the enemy activate the unit, they can more than likely burn into a 10km sphere, kite the edge, OH the scram and put it on just to disable the MJD effect, then continue on coasting out. I'm not saying it's a perfect idea, I'm not saying it's the best. A brawler on top of things will likely web and scram you as you go for the scram, but your momentum should carry you out of range as long as you just barely brushed the outside edge of the ~10km sphere that is the max range of an OH scram.

Either that, or they can just man up and put some DPS on their ships so their target will be dead within the 60s anchor timer.

You guys should look at the changed mmjd . It's not very overpowered now.

when this topic was created the anchor time was 20 sec and the module had 45 EHP.. so you needed 780 dps.... that is why people were complaining.. and within reason...

Why whine when u can use a scram?

Kite and scrubbery?
I am done with solo when I can-¦t kite. Tried to fight in scramrange several times this month and in 75% of all cases I got blobbed^^. You fight in scramwebrange---> you get ganked. Point.
Solo will be even more dead.
Of course there are these psychopaths fitting implants, links and 2 damps on an inty. BUT: main issue here are off grid boosters and not kiting. Get rid of link **** and kiting will be well balanced. Especially because kiters won-¦t be immune to missiles and drones then.
The MJD will be prolly game breaking sh.. and it won-¦t take too long until someone finds an exploit.