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SumMeiWhine
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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:54:00 -
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Edited by: SumMeiWhine on 25/03/2006 07:00:53
 Originally by: pershphanie
I'd like to know exactly how we bent over for anyone. We didnt have to give up anything. We just both realized we were the only ones showing up for fights while everyone else was slacking off so we decided everyone else needed to die.
don't try and make out that giving-in to an invading alliance can be justified as being 'for the greater good'. i was there in TS when the majority of the upper management were being told about what you did for the first time and the reaction was very far from understanding. you got bent over and instead of standing proud you caved in, now you're no more than the fives *****es - so good luck finding that moral highground.
better to die on your feet than live on your knees - i'll take jita over that any day of the week. enjoy.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.25 07:20:00 -
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Edited by: pershphanie on 25/03/2006 07:20:47
Originally by: SumMeiWhine
Edited by: SumMeiWhine on 25/03/2006 07:00:53
Originally by: pershphanie
I'd like to know exactly how we bent over for anyone. We didnt have to give up anything. We just both realized we were the only ones showing up for fights while everyone else was slacking off so we decided everyone else needed to die.
don't try and make out that giving-in to an invading alliance can be justified as being 'for the greater good'. i was there in TS when the majority of the upper management were being told about what you did for the first time and the reaction was very far from understanding. you got bent over and instead of standing proud you caved in, now you're no more than the fives *****es - so good luck finding that moral highground.
better to die on your feet than live on your knees - i'll take jita over that any day of the week. enjoy.
You make no sense. You keep claiming we bent over. What did we actually lose? nothing. As far as your delusional idea of moral highground goes. How are we the5's *****es? Describe the activities we do that constitute us being anyones *****. Do we mine for them? no. Do we pay them isk? no. Do we fight along side of them and having fun? yep. I dont see how that makes us their *****. We arent exactly on our knees either. We are just as strong as ever, if not stronger.
You obviously arent too bright because you're whole arguement is based off of '*cry* omg you napped the5 *cry*'. When I ask what is it that we gave up or do for the5 to consider what we did bending over or makes us their *****es you respond with '*cry* omg you napped the5 *cry*'.
So do you have any substance to your arguement at all or are you just a coward crying behind an alt because you are not bright enough to adapt to eve in 2006?
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.03.25 08:01:00 -
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tbh FE impressed me tonight and it has been over a year since i have been next to allies of their caliber.
So I would FE to be the most under rated,they have a bit of dead weight but on the whole they are pretty good.
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SumMeiWhine
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Posted - 2006.03.25 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: SumMeiWhine on 25/03/2006 09:40:12
Originally by: pershphanie
You make no sense. You keep claiming we bent over. What did we actually lose? nothing.
thats priceless, maybe one day someone will sit you down and explain it all to you 
until then all the best with that 2006!
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.25 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: pershphanie on 25/03/2006 09:58:39
Originally by: SumMeiWhine
Originally by: pershphanie
You make no sense. You keep claiming we bent over. What did we actually lose? nothing.
thats priceless, you're actually asking me how is it that you could have been bent over because you didn't lose your territory? you're really not cut out for this at all are you.
Yes I am actually asking that. quit dodging the question and give me a strait answer. What did we lose? did we lose military strenght? nope. did we lose territory? nope. Thats what counts the rest is just bull**** propaghanda. What did we gain? strong allies and the ability to grow stronger than ever. This is undeniable. We shed our ties with a bunch of weak northern alliances who called themselves allies so they could use us to prop them up and to fight their fights for them. If all we lost is the respect of a bunch of selfish npc hunters I'll take that trade any day of the week.
Hate mongering is not a moral value and your blind hatred of the5 does not give you the high ground. We made choice that was in the best interest of FE. Yes everyone in FE (including most of the leadership) was ****ed off at me when we told them about the nap. However now they understand it was the right move. You can like it, hate it, throw stones while hiding behind an alt all day long. Your opinion doesnt count. You can not change anything. You can flame me all you want. You can post with an alt but you cant hide from the truth. You are a coward.
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Clementina
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Posted - 2006.03.26 03:11:00 -
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The most underrated alliance is NORAD. It outlasted IMP and it outlasted BoB.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.03.26 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Why do you think we moved into Period Basis? Delve is our next step 
I've offered to pay for that once already so until you can get your carebear figurehead to sort his life out and accept a fat cheque from me to attack us you can stow that one 
I'll see you in London and we can discuss that again, Blacklight.
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agentsmitty
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Posted - 2006.03.26 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Clementina
The most underrated alliance is NORAD. It outlasted IMP and it outlasted BoB.
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.03.26 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Clementina
The most underrated alliance is NORAD. It outlasted IMP and it outlasted BoB.
Err, Imperium kicked out NORAD. NORAD were struggling. BoB came in and kicked out Imperium. This allowed NORAD to rebuild because we had very little presence in Outer Ring.
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Snodgey2004
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Posted - 2006.03.26 19:02:00 -
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My vote goes to the CVA , as much as i'd hate to stroke their ego they are worse than CONCORD when it comes to killing unwanted guests , as for the most fun alliance to fight it has to be -BOB- , just for the reasons pointed out by SGB , tho' i can say they were never under estimated 
Not under-estimated again but the corps that form The Triad ( if it exsists  ) kick some serious behind , plus they have Mindlles
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k starwind
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Posted - 2006.03.26 19:12:00 -
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i will say that ascn is not given what it deserves. Yes everyone knows we have the best industry in the game but the fighting force in ascn is not to be messed with.
G IRON RAZOR and a lot of friend all came into our space to try and beat us and after 2 months of constant fighting we lost a outpost for less than 2 days. the only reason we lost the outpost was due to the the reinforced mode of the enemy large pos.
we might have lost more ships but we were fighting over 3 alliances and a lot of corps at the same time.
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Ituralde
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Posted - 2006.03.26 19:38:00 -
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Oh? is GIRON unhappy because F-E is not subscribing to their twisted ideals of standings enclosurism? How priceless. Sucks when people think for themselves, doesn't it?
My vote clearly goes to F-E.
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Death Merchant
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Posted - 2006.03.26 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ituralde
Oh? is GIRON unhappy because F-E is not subscribing to their twisted ideals of standings enclosurism? How priceless. Sucks when people think for themselves, doesn't it?
My vote clearly goes to F-E.
huh?
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Clementina
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Posted - 2006.03.26 22:30:00 -
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Forsaken Empire is underrated. They deserve their own thread, but they don't seem to be getting that. Instead they have to content themselves with being flamed in this thread.
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Eskiban Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.03.26 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ituralde
Oh? is GIRON unhappy because F-E is not subscribing to their twisted ideals of standings enclosurism? How priceless. Sucks when people think for themselves, doesn't it?
My vote clearly goes to F-E.
I'm sure they have their own version of standing enclosurism, but you wouldn't care about that as long as they don't decide you're hostile.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.27 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Eskiban Vlasic
Originally by: Ituralde
Oh? is GIRON unhappy because F-E is not subscribing to their twisted ideals of standings enclosurism? How priceless. Sucks when people think for themselves, doesn't it?
My vote clearly goes to F-E.
I'm sure they have their own version of standing enclosurism, but you wouldn't care about that as long as they don't decide you're hostile.
Not really. We have entirly different standings than 90% of our friends. We do not subscribe to the set XXX to -10 or we will shoot you philosophy of G/IRON. Sure if one of our friends invites one of their friends up we usually set them to +10 to be good friends and neibors, but we do not try and force our standings on people as a way of manipulation. For example we kept red alliance at + after rat attacked us and we also have alot of celes's friends at +10. Most of the time we feel that who are friends chose to keep at + or - is none of our business.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.27 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Clementina
Forsaken Empire is underrated. They deserve their own thread, but they don't seem to be getting that. Instead they have to content themselves with being flamed in this thread.
I agree. The biggest problem with these forums is there are not enough threads flaming FE.
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.27 01:17:00 -
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I'd nominate Morsus Mihi
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Clementina
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Posted - 2006.03.27 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Clementina
Forsaken Empire is underrated. They deserve their own thread, but they don't seem to be getting that. Instead they have to content themselves with being flamed in this thread.
I agree. The biggest problem with these forums is there are not enough threads flaming FE.
If you guys had your own thread it wouldn't be all flames. I'm sure you can defend your position with intelligent discourse. Jericho seems to like it, so they might say something smart. Think on the bright side though, If you had your own thread, everything said would be on topic.
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madhapee
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Posted - 2006.03.27 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
I'd nominate Morsus Mihi
signed
and -V- is quite good too, but everybody rates them high so you cannot call it underrated. :)
tbo, I find G/IRON/RZR good too.
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2006.03.27 09:52:00 -
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Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 27/03/2006 09:54:21
I should really mention 4S, i know i said earlier something that contradicts this, but i had overlooked them.
They suprised us in a big way, for peeps like us its hard to swallow ur pride and say 'u owned us, gg'. But in that single morning they did, and it was well played.
Another discussion that has mutated in this thread seems to be that of FE being 5's *****es. This ammuses me highly and surely given 5's current operations people would actually consider us FE's *****.
However the people with the 'cluc'Know, and that is all that matters, know that FE & 5 are neither one anothers *****, but instead have a lot of respect for one and are prepared to work together to achieve common goals.
It's not a case of who wears the trousers in the relationship, because were both panty wearing mining newbs anyways.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.03.27 10:18:00 -
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Can't we all just get along and mine veld in Revalations?
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Done is done
Yes, there will be no taking back
Every journey must come to an end
All hail to the Gunslinger
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.03.27 10:31:00 -
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Wow, this post is uber flamebait :P
Can't say any particularly impress me. I can give you a page of alliances that only hold space by the fact that they have numbers, scare factor, and no skill at all, though :P
Testy's Eve Blog!
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larietta
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Posted - 2006.03.27 12:10:00 -
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none i dont do silly things like that
i treat every one the same
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Lowa
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Posted - 2006.03.27 15:19:00 -
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I dont ever underestimate anyone. That will get you killed.
I always go out thinking that I have to watch out and that
around every corner there will be a gang waiting for me.
However, when you dont get what you think you will get the
disapointment is kinda hard tbh. 
/LOWA
ps. Persh, stop talking to the Alt you dont know where its been. Dirty Alt.
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Raeff
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Posted - 2006.03.27 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Clementina
Forsaken Empire is underrated. They deserve their own thread, but they don't seem to be getting that. Instead they have to content themselves with being flamed in this thread.
I agree. The biggest problem with these forums is there are not enough threads flaming FE.
yes plz, i need more reading material for when im bored at work
btw persh, why do we care what they think? i know i dont .. we got new friends now that actually back us up .. thats all that matters to me
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Shogun Chaos
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Posted - 2006.03.29 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: ggdgdggdg
What alliance have you come up against that actually packed way more punch than you expected?
bob alliance when they brought 10dreads and a carrier 
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Mistress Suffering
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:48:00 -
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Thought I'd throw out a random nod to Prime Orbital Systems.
Not an alliance you'd think of as a real PvP group, but they still managed to pull a better Kill:Loss ratio against us than groups with a better PvP rep (TSDS, IAC, etc...)
Specific credit should probably go to Zitek Deepspace Explorations who were significantly more effective than any of the other corporations within that alliance. Nice job guys.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2006.03.31 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Snodgey2004
My vote goes to the CVA , as much as i'd hate to stroke their ego they are worse than CONCORD when it comes to killing unwanted guests , as for the most fun alliance to fight it has to be -BOB- , just for the reasons pointed out by SGB , tho' i can say they were never under estimated
Ah how nice. Especially when I blew you up not too long ago
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