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Paulus Attredies Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:40:00 - [1] - Quote I am not bashing this game. I just feel like I am missing something. I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. I am just training skills. The last time I did anything game related was doing the tutorials. Then I did about a week of killing space pirates. Then I bought a PLEX because, I absolutely loathe boring and repetitive quests/missions. The Space pirate missions are just awful after a few days. Am I missing something? Now I am just lost training skills endlessly... I supremely enjoy PVP. The reason I bought this game was because of some of the awesome and thrilling large scale battles between warring corporations. So I thought, "Ok I will apply to all the PVP corps using the in game corporation matcher thingy what ever". I got one quick response. This guy was insanely suspicious of everything. He was absolutely dumb founded. He was in shock and awe asking me how I found about this corp. After a long and I thought fruitful conversation about many different things, I asked him if I could join. I never got a response... He just AFK'ed and I never heard from him again. Am I missing something? So I move on and check my invitations a day later. I join a PVP guild. One of those "we don't give a flying finger who joins" and low and behold I have found a good PVP guild. They seem active. When I join I see 10-15 players on a Wednesday, which I felt as if that was pretty active. I proceed to undock from the station and I get the message "Leaving this station will cause Concord to gun you down. Are you sure you want to undock?" Uhhh... Freak no.... I canceled the undock and asked my corp why I couldn't undock. Faction war, yadda yadda, undock and run away, Yeah nooo... so I quit that corp. Am I missing something? I soon realized that the corporation recruiter/application tool is just awful. So I took it upon myself to find corps via the internet. Every corporation worth joining is: A. unreachable B. password protected C. Requires 3-6 months of straight skill point training or D. a combination of both (99% are D) Am I missing something? Honestly. I am hammering this out, but am I missing something? Do I really have to wait this long and dig this hard to get into a community I can relate too? Trying very hard here to get this game, but at the moment my impression is: pay money to play the game so I... don't play the game?... What? Someone help me... I really like what this game stands for, but at the moment... I see no reason to carry on with the subscription. I am not paying money for a game I do not play.
Kahega Amielden Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 1302	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:46:00 - [2] - Quote Quote: So I move on and check my invitations a day later. I join a PVP guild. One of those "we don't give a flying finger who joins" and low and behold I have found a good PVP guild. They seem active. When I join I see 10-15 players on a Wednesday, which I felt as if that was pretty active. I proceed to undock from the station and I get the message "Leaving this station will cause Concord to gun you down. Are you sure you want to undock?" Uhhh... Freak no.... I canceled the undock and asked my corp why I couldn't undock. Faction war, yadda yadda, undock and run away, Yeah nooo... so I quit that corp. Am I missing something? Oh hey, I found your problem That's not CONCORD, that's the faction navy, and it's a) Much, much more limited than CONCORD and b) Only does anything in the hostile factions' home space. So, you could just as easily have moved your stuff to where your corp actually based out of. c) you can pretty much move around freely in hostile factions' space as long as you're in a fast-aligning ship. Funny thing is, if you had asked your corp rather than quit immediately you probably would've realized all of these things and been fine.
Azami Nevinyrall Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 1549	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:47:00 - [3] - Quote Paulus Attredies wrote: I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!! Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore... ...
Alduin666 Shikkoken Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore 340	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:48:00 - [4] - Quote "I want to join a PvP corp" Joins one, then leaves. Joins a FW one, then leaves. How about you stick with a corporation once you join it? There wont be a single corp out there that will fit your playstyle 100%, you have to adapt. It sounds to me like you joined a FW corp and left it without even undocking . . . It's called patients, you need it to play this game. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead. Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
Alduin666 Shikkoken Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore 340	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:50:00 - [5] - Quote Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Paulus Attredies wrote: I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!! Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore... Get out of high sec, it helps ;) Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead. Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
Vageena Clatoris Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:53:00 - [6] - Quote Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote: Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Paulus Attredies wrote: I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!! Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore... Get out of high sec, it helps ;) Some of us want to but its not easy :P
Garandras Black Aces Against ALL Authorities 129	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:55:00 - [7] - Quote Dont worry about faction navy.. even if you are in something that doesnt align quick.. they normally web you into warp at any rate. Meet up with your new crew and do some pewpew.. if you are not happy with them look at other new player friendly corperations.. RvB are popular as well as Brave Newbies
Tarvos Telesto Blood Fanatics 900	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:09:00 - [8] - Quote After spending 7 years in EvE with average x hours per day with total 540+ days online im totaly exousted from game mechanic and lack of goals or instant fun, there is a lot to do hovewer everythings or goals take monts years etc, here no instant fun , buying thing or fiting ship somtime take like 30min long etc, everey single aspect is agains instant fun and in general boring. Like other guy from other topic about skiling, i have to say same thing, after spending x years here i fell guilty to not training my skills.... EvE isn't game, its style of living.
Azami Nevinyrall Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 1549	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:10:00 - [9] - Quote Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote: Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Paulus Attredies wrote: I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!! Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore... Get out of high sec, it helps ;) If my memory serves me right, last summer I spent a few months in a Megathron... Sorry about Fountain... ...
AFK Hauler State War Academy 896	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:20:00 - [10] - Quote RvB or Eve Uni Those two Corps (not guilds) will be a good fit for getting you more involved in the game and teaching you the way of EVE... long, but fruitful.
Seraph Essael Devils Diciples League of Infamy 400	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:23:00 - [11] - Quote AFK Hauler wrote: RvB or Eve Uni Those two Corps (not guilds) will be a good fit for getting you more involved in the game and teaching you the way of EVE... long, but fruitful. I was about to suggest RvB to OP... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 8991	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:24:00 - [12] - Quote If youre gonna stay in highsec, youre gonna have a bad time. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Paulus Attredies Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:26:00 - [13] - Quote Eh. Ill give some more effort to finding a corp. I can tell by the reactions that I really have not exhausted all my possibilities. I am sure I can find a low level PVP corp in the near future. I will keep at it, and hopefully I will succeed. If I fail in a few weeks, then I will rewrite this post.
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 128	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:28:00 - [14] - Quote Sounds like you joined a Faction War Corp who are fighting for the opposite side to where you were currently docked :D You basically accidently signed up with the enemy of your current region. Note that older established corps and alliances will be suspicious because a lot of supposedly "new players" applying are actually alt characters of the enemy out to do sabotage and spy, the EVE term for this is awoxxing. HOWEVER, on the bright side, there are a lot of new player friendly corps around including Eve Uni, RvB and BNI just to name a few of the larger ones. Stick with it.
KnowUsByTheDead New Eden Federation Of Justice 915	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:29:00 - [15] - Quote I usually just take a knife and throw it across the room at a wall covered in scraps of meaningless EvE goals, to determine what a short term goal is. Right now, the short term goal is 5000 shitpoasts in a three month period. I am on my way. Oh yes Lawdy, I am on my way. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á
Kimmi Chan Tastes Like Purple 467	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:31:00 - [16] - Quote Paulus Attredies wrote: Eh. Ill give some more effort to finding a corp. I can tell by the reactions that I really have not exhausted all my possibilities. I am sure I can find a low level PVP corp in the near future. I will keep at it, and hopefully I will succeed. If I fail in a few weeks, then I will rewrite this post. Feel free to post your success as well. Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has.
mechtech Ice Liberation Army 601	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:28:00 - [17] - Quote Try wormholes. They're by far the best small to midsized group PvE and PvP content.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2339	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:32:00 - [18] - Quote This game isn't for you. Oh god.
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance 4663	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:34:00 - [19] - Quote Copy pasting from another thread. Quote: I want to join a good corporation but they all have "skillpoint requirements." What can I do? Corporations that have "skillpoint requirements" are a using a semi-false metric. The belief is that once you have XX amount of skillpoints you are old enough to have decent "experience" in EVE... such that you do not need to be taught the bare basics... that you can operate without having to be told what to do or where. What you can do to counter this is to... - Learn what the basic terminology is... - Learn how to fiddle with your overview... - Know what ships are generally good and bad at... - And, most importantly, SHOW THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO LEARN MORE. Most corps will be flexible about their "restrictions" if you directly talk with someone in it and show that you are enthusiastic and intelligent. Those that aren't... they are bad corps and you don't want to join them anyways. tldr; the SP restrictions are there to preemptively weed out the "general rabble" from applying (and it's working OP hint hint). Don't be one of the "general rabble." Show that you CAN be part of their "cool kids club." Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
Nexus Day Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau 941	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:37:00 - [20] - Quote RvB...do eet. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
Markku Laaksonen EVE University Ivy League 312	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:49:00 - [21] - Quote Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote: "I want to join a PvP corp" Joins one, then leaves. Joins a FW one, then leaves. How about you stick with a corporation once you join it? There wont be a single corp out there that will fit your playstyle 100%, you have to adapt. It sounds to me like you joined a FW corp and left it without even undocking . . . It's called patients, you need it to play this game. I just want to stop this thread right here. It's called patience. Patient patients have patience while they wait for the doctor. You guys can continue.
Silvetica Dian Manson Family Advent of Fate 549	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:55:00 - [22] - Quote eve isn't instant success at anything. everything needs research from income streams to fitting to tactics to corps. Having said that there are a ton of decent corps out there that are happy to help newbros with advice and experiance. a year ago i was in your shoes and now i have over 200 bill of kills under my feet and am part of the leadership of a 7 year old corp leading a null sec alliance (not an important one or one that anyone cares about). i am on speaking terms with several famous scammers, on good terms with the fine folk at minerbumping as well as several noteworthy forum posters. eve is not wow. spending time grinding helps to only a tiny extent. passive income is the holy grail. intel /scouting is more important than mashing buttons in the correct order. once you get a handle on the game in 10-15 years time it will have ruined all other games for you. I have mastered industry, exploration , missioning and incursions so far. my main game time is spent on small gang pvp and i still suck at it. i do a lot of market stuff but i realise most of it is still over my head. as is the rest of eve. i am well above average IQ and most things in this intellect dominated game i still aspire to adequate. i have made several guides to isk making. feel free to mail me in game for copies. If you have pvp goals then i most likely have contacts that can help with that. again mail me with details of what you are looking for. Please be aware that eve PVP covers a huge spectrum of activity and telling me you just want to pewpew will result in no response. as always some basic research is needed. here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY
John XIII Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 73	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:07:00 - [23] - Quote Research some t1 frigate fits for PvP. Buy the hulls and gear to fit 50-100 of them. Get a headset. Join RvB (red fed, best fed) Join fleets, fight and die. Listen, ask questions, and take part. When you lose all your ships, make a decision about eve.
Webvan State War Academy Caldari State 326	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:28:00 - [24] - Quote can i haz your stuffs? wait nm you're a newbie that hasn't experienced the game enough to haz stuffs. "I'z join a corp to pvp, i'z leave teh corp cuz not safe in my ibis biomass immediately or get out there and just do stuff. The game probably has more to do than you even realized yet. Sitting in station or popping a few tutorial rats is not the game.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 4102	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:35:00 - [25] - Quote I fear that what the OP is missing is known as "quick gratification". A little research would reveal that the SP system is not as heavily weighted against new players as it appears. A little research.....
Miku Yumi GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 23	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:54:00 - [26] - Quote Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote: Get out of high sec, it helps This is the best advice here. High sec and all its obtuse rules and regulations for pvp is terrible. Join a new player friendly 0.0 corp. They do exist.
Cannibal Kane My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire 3119	Posted - 2014.01.09 04:12:00 - [27] - Quote Can't anybody do anything for themselves any more? Everybody wants fun handed to them to them on a silver platter. Go out there and shoot people... PVP corps with SP limit will take on people with less SP if they have showed some ability to PVP. PVP is not dependant on SP but more on attitude and ability. SP Limits are there to keep the chancer away. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS
ROXGenghis Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 161	Posted - 2014.01.09 04:16:00 - [28] - Quote Before RvB came along, I would have pointed a new player to Eve Uni. But now I don't recommend either one for a new player interested in PVP. Now I suggest Brave Newbies [url]https://bravenewbies.net/wp/[/url].
Caviar Liberta Moira. Villore Accords 397	Posted - 2014.01.09 04:47:00 - [29] - Quote AFK Hauler wrote: RvB or Eve Uni Those two Corps (not guilds) will be a good fit for getting you more involved in the game and teaching you the way of EVE... long, but fruitful. Black Rebel Rifter Club is pretty good also.
dilly nay State War Academy Caldari State 7	Posted - 2014.01.09 04:56:00 - [30] - Quote Op, you think yourself worthy of joining an experienced corp before finishing the tutorial and buying a PLEX for in-game cash. I almost feel sorry for your effort.

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