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Paulus Attredies Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:40:00 - [1] - Quote I am not bashing this game. I just feel like I am missing something. I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. I am just training skills. The last time I did anything game related was doing the tutorials. Then I did about a week of killing space pirates. Then I bought a PLEX because, I absolutely loathe boring and repetitive quests/missions. The Space pirate missions are just awful after a few days. Am I missing something? Now I am just lost training skills endlessly... I supremely enjoy PVP. The reason I bought this game was because of some of the awesome and thrilling large scale battles between warring corporations. So I thought, "Ok I will apply to all the PVP corps using the in game corporation matcher thingy what ever". I got one quick response. This guy was insanely suspicious of everything. He was absolutely dumb founded. He was in shock and awe asking me how I found about this corp. After a long and I thought fruitful conversation about many different things, I asked him if I could join. I never got a response... He just AFK'ed and I never heard from him again. Am I missing something? So I move on and check my invitations a day later. I join a PVP guild. One of those "we don't give a flying finger who joins" and low and behold I have found a good PVP guild. They seem active. When I join I see 10-15 players on a Wednesday, which I felt as if that was pretty active. I proceed to undock from the station and I get the message "Leaving this station will cause Concord to gun you down. Are you sure you want to undock?" Uhhh... Freak no.... I canceled the undock and asked my corp why I couldn't undock. Faction war, yadda yadda, undock and run away, Yeah nooo... so I quit that corp. Am I missing something? I soon realized that the corporation recruiter/application tool is just awful. So I took it upon myself to find corps via the internet. Every corporation worth joining is: A. unreachable B. password protected C. Requires 3-6 months of straight skill point training or D. a combination of both (99% are D) Am I missing something? Honestly. I am hammering this out, but am I missing something? Do I really have to wait this long and dig this hard to get into a community I can relate too? Trying very hard here to get this game, but at the moment my impression is: pay money to play the game so I... don't play the game?... What? Someone help me... I really like what this game stands for, but at the moment... I see no reason to carry on with the subscription. I am not paying money for a game I do not play.
Kahega Amielden Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 1302	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:46:00 - [2] - Quote Quote: So I move on and check my invitations a day later. I join a PVP guild. One of those "we don't give a flying finger who joins" and low and behold I have found a good PVP guild. They seem active. When I join I see 10-15 players on a Wednesday, which I felt as if that was pretty active. I proceed to undock from the station and I get the message "Leaving this station will cause Concord to gun you down. Are you sure you want to undock?" Uhhh... Freak no.... I canceled the undock and asked my corp why I couldn't undock. Faction war, yadda yadda, undock and run away, Yeah nooo... so I quit that corp. Am I missing something? Oh hey, I found your problem That's not CONCORD, that's the faction navy, and it's a) Much, much more limited than CONCORD and b) Only does anything in the hostile factions' home space. So, you could just as easily have moved your stuff to where your corp actually based out of. c) you can pretty much move around freely in hostile factions' space as long as you're in a fast-aligning ship. Funny thing is, if you had asked your corp rather than quit immediately you probably would've realized all of these things and been fine.
Azami Nevinyrall Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 1549	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:47:00 - [3] - Quote Paulus Attredies wrote: I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!! Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore... ...
Alduin666 Shikkoken Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore 340	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:48:00 - [4] - Quote "I want to join a PvP corp" Joins one, then leaves. Joins a FW one, then leaves. How about you stick with a corporation once you join it? There wont be a single corp out there that will fit your playstyle 100%, you have to adapt. It sounds to me like you joined a FW corp and left it without even undocking . . . It's called patients, you need it to play this game. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead. Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
Alduin666 Shikkoken Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore 340	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:50:00 - [5] - Quote Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Paulus Attredies wrote: I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!! Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore... Get out of high sec, it helps ;) Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead. Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
Vageena Clatoris Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:53:00 - [6] - Quote Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote: Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Paulus Attredies wrote: I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!! Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore... Get out of high sec, it helps ;) Some of us want to but its not easy :P
Garandras Black Aces Against ALL Authorities 129	Posted - 2014.01.09 00:55:00 - [7] - Quote Dont worry about faction navy.. even if you are in something that doesnt align quick.. they normally web you into warp at any rate. Meet up with your new crew and do some pewpew.. if you are not happy with them look at other new player friendly corperations.. RvB are popular as well as Brave Newbies
Tarvos Telesto Blood Fanatics 900	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:09:00 - [8] - Quote After spending 7 years in EvE with average x hours per day with total 540+ days online im totaly exousted from game mechanic and lack of goals or instant fun, there is a lot to do hovewer everythings or goals take monts years etc, here no instant fun , buying thing or fiting ship somtime take like 30min long etc, everey single aspect is agains instant fun and in general boring. Like other guy from other topic about skiling, i have to say same thing, after spending x years here i fell guilty to not training my skills.... EvE isn't game, its style of living.
Azami Nevinyrall Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 1549	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:10:00 - [9] - Quote Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote: Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Paulus Attredies wrote: I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!! Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore... Get out of high sec, it helps ;) If my memory serves me right, last summer I spent a few months in a Megathron... Sorry about Fountain... ...
AFK Hauler State War Academy 896	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:20:00 - [10] - Quote RvB or Eve Uni Those two Corps (not guilds) will be a good fit for getting you more involved in the game and teaching you the way of EVE... long, but fruitful.
Seraph Essael Devils Diciples League of Infamy 400	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:23:00 - [11] - Quote AFK Hauler wrote: RvB or Eve Uni Those two Corps (not guilds) will be a good fit for getting you more involved in the game and teaching you the way of EVE... long, but fruitful. I was about to suggest RvB to OP... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 8991	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:24:00 - [12] - Quote If youre gonna stay in highsec, youre gonna have a bad time. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Paulus Attredies Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:26:00 - [13] - Quote Eh. Ill give some more effort to finding a corp. I can tell by the reactions that I really have not exhausted all my possibilities. I am sure I can find a low level PVP corp in the near future. I will keep at it, and hopefully I will succeed. If I fail in a few weeks, then I will rewrite this post.
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 128	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:28:00 - [14] - Quote Sounds like you joined a Faction War Corp who are fighting for the opposite side to where you were currently docked :D You basically accidently signed up with the enemy of your current region. Note that older established corps and alliances will be suspicious because a lot of supposedly "new players" applying are actually alt characters of the enemy out to do sabotage and spy, the EVE term for this is awoxxing. HOWEVER, on the bright side, there are a lot of new player friendly corps around including Eve Uni, RvB and BNI just to name a few of the larger ones. Stick with it.
KnowUsByTheDead New Eden Federation Of Justice 915	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:29:00 - [15] - Quote I usually just take a knife and throw it across the room at a wall covered in scraps of meaningless EvE goals, to determine what a short term goal is. Right now, the short term goal is 5000 shitpoasts in a three month period. I am on my way. Oh yes Lawdy, I am on my way. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á
Kimmi Chan Tastes Like Purple 467	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:31:00 - [16] - Quote Paulus Attredies wrote: Eh. Ill give some more effort to finding a corp. I can tell by the reactions that I really have not exhausted all my possibilities. I am sure I can find a low level PVP corp in the near future. I will keep at it, and hopefully I will succeed. If I fail in a few weeks, then I will rewrite this post. Feel free to post your success as well. Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has.
mechtech Ice Liberation Army 601	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:28:00 - [17] - Quote Try wormholes. They're by far the best small to midsized group PvE and PvP content.
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2339	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:32:00 - [18] - Quote This game isn't for you. Oh god.
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance 4663	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:34:00 - [19] - Quote Copy pasting from another thread. Quote: I want to join a good corporation but they all have "skillpoint requirements." What can I do? Corporations that have "skillpoint requirements" are a using a semi-false metric. The belief is that once you have XX amount of skillpoints you are old enough to have decent "experience" in EVE... such that you do not need to be taught the bare basics... that you can operate without having to be told what to do or where. What you can do to counter this is to... - Learn what the basic terminology is... - Learn how to fiddle with your overview... - Know what ships are generally good and bad at... - And, most importantly, SHOW THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO LEARN MORE. Most corps will be flexible about their "restrictions" if you directly talk with someone in it and show that you are enthusiastic and intelligent. Those that aren't... they are bad corps and you don't want to join them anyways. tldr; the SP restrictions are there to preemptively weed out the "general rabble" from applying (and it's working OP hint hint). Don't be one of the "general rabble." Show that you CAN be part of their "cool kids club." Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
Nexus Day Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau 941	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:37:00 - [20] - Quote RvB...do eet. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
Markku Laaksonen EVE University Ivy League 312	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:49:00 - [21] - Quote Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote: "I want to join a PvP corp" Joins one, then leaves. Joins a FW one, then leaves. How about you stick with a corporation once you join it? There wont be a single corp out there that will fit your playstyle 100%, you have to adapt. It sounds to me like you joined a FW corp and left it without even undocking . . . It's called patients, you need it to play this game. I just want to stop this thread right here. It's called patience. Patient patients have patience while they wait for the doctor. You guys can continue.
Silvetica Dian Manson Family Advent of Fate 549	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:55:00 - [22] - Quote eve isn't instant success at anything. everything needs research from income streams to fitting to tactics to corps. Having said that there are a ton of decent corps out there that are happy to help newbros with advice and experiance. a year ago i was in your shoes and now i have over 200 bill of kills under my feet and am part of the leadership of a 7 year old corp leading a null sec alliance (not an important one or one that anyone cares about). i am on speaking terms with several famous scammers, on good terms with the fine folk at minerbumping as well as several noteworthy forum posters. eve is not wow. spending time grinding helps to only a tiny extent. passive income is the holy grail. intel /scouting is more important than mashing buttons in the correct order. once you get a handle on the game in 10-15 years time it will have ruined all other games for you. I have mastered industry, exploration , missioning and incursions so far. my main game time is spent on small gang pvp and i still suck at it. i do a lot of market stuff but i realise most of it is still over my head. as is the rest of eve. i am well above average IQ and most things in this intellect dominated game i still aspire to adequate. i have made several guides to isk making. feel free to mail me in game for copies. If you have pvp goals then i most likely have contacts that can help with that. again mail me with details of what you are looking for. Please be aware that eve PVP covers a huge spectrum of activity and telling me you just want to pewpew will result in no response. as always some basic research is needed. here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY
John XIII Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 73	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:07:00 - [23] - Quote Research some t1 frigate fits for PvP. Buy the hulls and gear to fit 50-100 of them. Get a headset. Join RvB (red fed, best fed) Join fleets, fight and die. Listen, ask questions, and take part. When you lose all your ships, make a decision about eve.
Webvan State War Academy Caldari State 326	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:28:00 - [24] - Quote can i haz your stuffs? wait nm you're a newbie that hasn't experienced the game enough to haz stuffs. "I'z join a corp to pvp, i'z leave teh corp cuz not safe in my ibis biomass immediately or get out there and just do stuff. The game probably has more to do than you even realized yet. Sitting in station or popping a few tutorial rats is not the game.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 4102	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:35:00 - [25] - Quote I fear that what the OP is missing is known as "quick gratification". A little research would reveal that the SP system is not as heavily weighted against new players as it appears. A little research.....
Miku Yumi GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 23	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:54:00 - [26] - Quote Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote: Get out of high sec, it helps This is the best advice here. High sec and all its obtuse rules and regulations for pvp is terrible. Join a new player friendly 0.0 corp. They do exist.
Cannibal Kane My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire 3119	Posted - 2014.01.09 04:12:00 - [27] - Quote Can't anybody do anything for themselves any more? Everybody wants fun handed to them to them on a silver platter. Go out there and shoot people... PVP corps with SP limit will take on people with less SP if they have showed some ability to PVP. PVP is not dependant on SP but more on attitude and ability. SP Limits are there to keep the chancer away. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS
ROXGenghis Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 161	Posted - 2014.01.09 04:16:00 - [28] - Quote Before RvB came along, I would have pointed a new player to Eve Uni. But now I don't recommend either one for a new player interested in PVP. Now I suggest Brave Newbies [url]https://bravenewbies.net/wp/[/url].
Caviar Liberta Moira. Villore Accords 397	Posted - 2014.01.09 04:47:00 - [29] - Quote AFK Hauler wrote: RvB or Eve Uni Those two Corps (not guilds) will be a good fit for getting you more involved in the game and teaching you the way of EVE... long, but fruitful. Black Rebel Rifter Club is pretty good also.
dilly nay State War Academy Caldari State 7	Posted - 2014.01.09 04:56:00 - [30] - Quote Op, you think yourself worthy of joining an experienced corp before finishing the tutorial and buying a PLEX for in-game cash. I almost feel sorry for your effort.

ISD Tyrozan ISD Community Communications Liaisons 352	Posted - 2014.01.09 05:08:00 - [31] - Quote Thread has been moved to EVE New Citizens Q&A. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISDTyrozan \| @ISD_CCL

Sabriz Adoudel Mission BLITZ 1687	Posted - 2014.01.09 05:34:00 - [32] - Quote Try Brave Newbies. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front.
Malcolm Shinhwa Bad Touches 999	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:23:00 - [33] - Quote 1) Put in app to "Stay Frosty 2) Get accepted, no hassle 3) Move to Hevrice 4) Do whatever it is Rixx Javix says 5) Pew, pew, pew I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose.
Varisto North Star Science And Industry 3	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:46:00 - [34] - Quote This is game of patience. This is not WoW. This is game thats hard to master and even harder to win. But thats what draws us longtime players here again and again. We are free to set our own goals and measure our success how ever we like. Lots of fun in mmo comes out of playing with others. The very nature of EvEonline is encourage team play. Got wardecked? its more fun to fight with friends. Going mining? Fleet support can improve your yield ans cycle time of mining lasers. Live in nullsec? Team play is almost mandatory to long term living there... I wont comment on your corp history. Just seems little short tempered. This game is about what you want to do here in long run. Find corporation that alligns mostly to those goals. As others have pointed out, no corp will fit 100% to your goals. This is massive online simulation of life in far far away galaxy, where even laws of nature are still in motion of changeing. What works today, might work differently tomorrow. If you are new to this game. Give a serious tought of joining one of those well known new player friendly organisations. Learning cliff is steep, even now when CCP has tryed to flat it out a bit.
Omega Sunset Caldari Roughnecks 119	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:55:00 - [35] - Quote 1) Hang out in the caracter bazzar forum 2) Buy a "bitter vet" character 3) Sit in station 4) Start another "I'm not happy" thread There is a corp forum here you know, they actively recruit. Filtering random corps in-game is somewhat pointless as not every corp is recruiting all the time. Lots are though... GÇö+¬GÇö
Sid Crash 53	Posted - 2014.01.09 08:02:00 - [36] - Quote I haven't read any other replies (It's early and haven't gotten my first coffee yet) but I'll just sum up my initial reactions: - you don't have to grind, there's various ways of making isk . Some are semi passive on an alt, others require you to be active but doen't necessarily feel like grind - you using a plex and "cheating your way past the initial game play" doesn't help, because it robs you of any personal milestones which help you get into the game proper (your first mil isk, your first cool new ship) - EVE is very DIFFERENT from other MMOs, yes it can be a hairy adrenaline rush but at the same time it's also a more slowed down kind of game. Other MMOs you can go "lol, lets kill some spider yo, and where's the lvl 10 battlegrounds?", EVE forces you to do silly things like reading, learning and putting in effort. It's a different pace and you'll have to get used to it - most people are terrible and that means most corps are terrible too and the ones that aren't simply have learned that, most people being terrible, active/bright/inquisitive newbies probably aren't newbies at all. So they're weary of newbies who act too enthusiastic compared to the average, sounds silly and backwards but in EVE there's a valid reason for their attitude - don't rush, slow down, take your time. EVE isn't for ADHD folks (not saying you are) There are entities out there who cater to a more "instant action" kind of playing, most notably Brave Newbies. Go give them a look. There's also Red vs Blue (RvB), they do something similar but at the same time it's quite different, give that one a good look as well. Joining either will help you get ahead in the game and get into it. Don't rush, slow down, take your time. EVE is one of those elusive games you might be playing for the next 10 years, pace yourself and give it time to get you addicted. There's no reason dismiss or get discouraged by it in the first few weeks just because you haven't adapted yet or it's not going as you hoped or planned (which is normal and will take time), just let it happen :)
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 296	Posted - 2014.01.09 08:04:00 - [37] - Quote ISD Tyrozan wrote: Thread has been moved to EVE New Citizens Q&A. Oh wow, I was wondering about the tone of this thread. It got moved from somewhere else, now it all makes sense. OP, Ya, you're missing something. You seem to get discouraged too easy. EVE might not be the game for you, since it is, in many ways, a game about rising up from the ashes of defeat. But if you decide to stick it out, then there are things you can do. First, you have to play. Being offline doing skill queue sucks. I've been having connection issues lately when I try to play eve. It burns anyone out pretty fast. Second, You have to get over your fear of dying. In the OP, you saw the warning message and panicked. A lot of pvp is psychological. So,keeping a cool head while your ship is flaming around you is critical. Historically, the best way to get over dying, is to go die a lot. So make a bunch of really cheap fitted ships and run into ls or null and pick fights with anyone, whether you think you can win or not. Try to learn from these fights, and do the very best you can, maybe ask for after action critiques from the people you attack, or who attack you. But mainly, accepting defeat from the start allows you to fight at your very best. Third, consistency is gold in Eve. You learn more sticking through troubles than you will cutting out, so if you run into a problem, see it as a challenge, something to enhance your game experience, not something to evade. Because you disdained all my counsel, and my reproof you ignoredGÇö I, in my turn, will laugh at your doom; will mock when terror overtakes you; -- Ultimate Griefer's Handbook
Alduin666 Shikkoken Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore 341	Posted - 2014.01.09 08:05:00 - [38] - Quote Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote: Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Paulus Attredies wrote: I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!! Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore... Get out of high sec, it helps ;) If my memory serves me right, last summer I spent a few months in a Megathron... Sorry about Fountain... I joined TEST after their move to FW so unofficially . . . those fountain jokes mean nothing to me. But my official statement is DIDN'T WANT THAT SPACE ANYWAY. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead. Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
Omega Sunset Caldari Roughnecks 119	Posted - 2014.01.09 08:26:00 - [39] - Quote Yeah as a combat pilot, you need to get over your fear. In a billion isk mission runner ship, I can understand the caution. But all frigs are dirt cheap, and the rookie ship you started in gets replaced for free. Now is when you take stupid risks, it wont set you back anything. Later you can faceplant your keyboard all you want, but no reason to yet. GÇö+¬GÇö
Alduin666 Shikkoken Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore 341	Posted - 2014.01.09 08:30:00 - [40] - Quote Markku Laaksonen wrote: Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote: "I want to join a PvP corp" Joins one, then leaves. Joins a FW one, then leaves. How about you stick with a corporation once you join it? There wont be a single corp out there that will fit your playstyle 100%, you have to adapt. It sounds to me like you joined a FW corp and left it without even undocking . . . It's called patients, you need it to play this game. I just want to stop this thread right here. It's called patience. Patient patients have patience while they wait for the doctor. You guys can continue. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I thought I was quite clear, you NEED patients to play the game. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead. Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 3522	Posted - 2014.01.09 10:54:00 - [41] - Quote Paulus Attredies wrote: I am not bashing this game. I just feel like I am missing something. I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. I am just training skills. The last time I did anything game related was doing the tutorials. Then I did about a week of killing space pirates. Then I bought a PLEX because, I absolutely loathe boring and repetitive quests/missions. The Space pirate missions are just awful after a few days. Am I missing something? Yes. Go out and do what every floats your boat. If you end up just playing skillqueue online....you will unsub quickly because it's boring. If you end up falling for the "I need x amount of SP before I can do anything"...you will unsub quickly because it's boring. If you end up falling for the "I need x amount of ISK before I can do anything"...you will unsub quickly because it's boring. What should you do...what ever you want, if you want to PvP, there are MANY MANY options open to you. RvB - info here / Public chat: R-V-B Brave Newbies Inc- info here / Public chat: Brave Newbies Enlist for Faction warfare site of choice or join a FW corp. Not to mention all the public roams there are for you: RvB Ganked - chat channel: RvB Ganked Redemption Roads - chat channel: Redemption Road Quote: So I move on and check my invitations a day later. I join a PVP guild. One of those "we don't give a flying finger who joins" and low and behold I have found a good PVP guild. They seem active. When I join I see 10-15 players on a Wednesday, which I felt as if that was pretty active. I proceed to undock from the station and I get the message "Leaving this station will cause Concord to gun you down. Are you sure you want to undock?" Uhhh... Freak no.... I canceled the undock and asked my corp why I couldn't undock. Faction war, yadda yadda, undock and run away, Yeah nooo... so I quit that corp. Am I missing something? So...you joined a corp, without doing a little research on what they are doing (Faction Warfare) and how faction warfare works. And then get angry and quit the corp because of the "good" info they gave you (you should have joined after you've met up with the corp or should have moved towards them). Use this guide to find your corp. Quote: I soon realized that the corporation recruiter/application tool is just awful. So I took it upon myself to find corps via the internet. Every corporation worth joining is: A. unreachable B. password protected C. Requires 3-6 months of straight skill point training or D. a combination of both (99% are D) Am I missing something? Yes. EVE isn't about SP amounts. EVE isn't about instant gratifications. You need patience and a very good attitude. SP limits are in place for 1 main reason, to prevent lazy spies from entering the corp. If you show good attitude and determination to a recruiter, 99% of the times the SP limit isn't that hard of a rule to join. Also, USE the forums. In game search tool is bad and easily manipulated to make your corp stand out if you know what boxes to tick. It also is a 30 second set up thing...forum posts usually take longer to make and a good forum thread more or less shows that a corp is serious about running it and recruiting members. Quote: Honestly. I am hammering this out, but am I missing something? Do I really have to wait this long and dig this hard to get into a community I can relate too? No... You can join a lot of communities from Day 1. It's the part where you have to find such communities where it gets rough for a new player. But EVE wouldn't be EVE if it didn't take brain cells, patience and some research to find stuff. Quote: Trying very hard here to get this game, but at the moment my impression is: pay money to play the game so I... don't play the game?... What? Someone help me... I really like what this game stands for, but at the moment... I see no reason to carry on with the subscription. I am not paying money for a game I do not play. Then start playing the game. Do what ever you want to do for fun, don't let anything or anybody stop you from doing that. It's your money you spent on the game, so do what YOU want to do. EDIT: A great way to find people / corps of interest. Talk to people Join public community channels that are available to you (a lot of EVE celebs have their own chat channels, some "organisations" have one) and talk in there / ask questions. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Leafar Nightfall Angels and Demons Inc. Mordus Angels 105	Posted - 2014.01.09 12:37:00 - [42] - Quote I think OP is not even reading this anymore, but I'll post anyway You're missing out your own target: PvP. You won't be doing much PvP if you're scared of undocking because you're in the other faction area. You should have asked what are the consequences of this alert to your corp mates or even googled it, as there's a **** ton of material about eve Anyway, if you're maing focus is PvP, the first thing you would needed was an income source, which if you want to do PvP exclusively would be a pain in the ass to get in the first months. You completly skipped that part by buying a plex, which is worth about one hundred very well fitted frigates. So the boring part is already out of the way, all you have to do is blow them up Don't think you should avoid PvP because you don't have SP "enough" yet. It's worth nothing if you don't practice and you'll make stupid decisions and lose ships anyway if you wait for your SP to grow first.
Vageena Clatoris Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.01.09 12:59:00 - [43] - Quote I think it helps to have a goal and to set out to do that goal, what do you want to do ? mining ? freight hauling ? covert ops ? battleship/battlecruiser sniping/damage/tackling etc. Eve online is a very steep learning curve and whilst the community has its fair share of asshats due to the capitalism and piracy focus of the game, there are people out there willing to learn and help new players. You are right however, that Eve can become boring, however, if you can afford to, try running 2/3 characters. Doesn't have to be multiple accounts you can skill train two toons on one account.
Nuela Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance 224	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:39:00 - [44] - Quote Paulus Attredies wrote: I am not bashing this game. I just feel like I am missing something. I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. I am just training skills. The last time I did anything game related was doing the tutorials. Then I did about a week of killing space pirates. Then I bought a PLEX because, I absolutely loathe boring and repetitive quests/missions. The Space pirate missions are just awful after a few days. Am I missing something? Now I am just lost training skills endlessly... I supremely enjoy PVP. The reason I bought this game was because of some of the awesome and thrilling large scale battles between warring corporations. So I thought, "Ok I will apply to all the PVP corps using the in game corporation matcher thingy what ever". I got one quick response. This guy was insanely suspicious of everything. He was absolutely dumb founded. He was in shock and awe asking me how I found about this corp. After a long and I thought fruitful conversation about many different things, I asked him if I could join. I never got a response... He just AFK'ed and I never heard from him again. Am I missing something? So I move on and check my invitations a day later. I join a PVP guild. One of those "we don't give a flying finger who joins" and low and behold I have found a good PVP guild. They seem active. When I join I see 10-15 players on a Wednesday, which I felt as if that was pretty active. I proceed to undock from the station and I get the message "Leaving this station will cause Concord to gun you down. Are you sure you want to undock?" Uhhh... Freak no.... I canceled the undock and asked my corp why I couldn't undock. Faction war, yadda yadda, undock and run away, Yeah nooo... so I quit that corp. Am I missing something? I soon realized that the corporation recruiter/application tool is just awful. So I took it upon myself to find corps via the internet. Every corporation worth joining is: A. unreachable B. password protected C. Requires 3-6 months of straight skill point training or D. a combination of both (99% are D) Am I missing something? Honestly. I am hammering this out, but am I missing something? Do I really have to wait this long and dig this hard to get into a community I can relate too? Trying very hard here to get this game, but at the moment my impression is: pay money to play the game so I... don't play the game?... What? Someone help me... I really like what this game stands for, but at the moment... I see no reason to carry on with the subscription. I am not paying money for a game I do not play. You need to see it from the other side. If you are involved in recruiting and training of newbies (toons less than 6 months old) you will discover: - Large amounts of newbies are just spy alts or corp thief wannabies. Not most but a significant percentage. It is much higher for hisec corps than nullsec IME but still is there. - Even if you talk to the newb and he seems ok, there is a good chance he is actually an idiot. You find this out when he joins and proceeds to lose a billion Isk in ships in stupid ways. - If you talk to a newb, you can waste tons of time talking to someone to have them just not apply. Newbs don't know what they want and are 'flighty' and easily distracted. Older toons usually know what they want/don't want and the conversation is quick and efficient. - After they join, newbs are flighty. They seem to expect too much and lack their own internal goals and expect them to be gift wrapped for them. They think the grass may be greener and itch to explore and so many just leave the corp after a short period. Best to let em explore for a few months first before trying to recruit. - Newb toons require much hand holding and explanation. This is time consuming and draining. Worth it if they stick around, but they usually don't... TLDR - Newbs require much effort to recruit and train and usually are not worth the effort because they turn out to be idiots or flighty. ==== Therefore, a sane person and take one of 2 stances. They can take new recruits but 'throw em to the wolves' by not wasting much time on them. If they are still around in a few weeks and don't seem to be an idiot THEN invest time in them. These new people are rare though. -OR- set a min SP requirement. Most corps go the latter route. I used to be very active in recruiting and very 'mother hen'-y for new recruits. I even helped newbs not in my corp! Now, if you aren't in my corp and haven't been around for awhile and/or are interesting...I don't usually bother :)
Snagletooth Johnson Snagle Material Services CAStabouts 63	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:51:00 - [45] - Quote Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Paulus Attredies wrote: I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!! Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore... What? Didint you get the memo? you're corp is now a Goon territorial protectorate. You're function is now to protect the Poco assets That RvB has collected for their new overlords...no PvP unless those assets are attacked...fall in line or you will never be invited to move up the food chain into Goons. Pretty sad, RvB selling out and becoming a Hi-sec recruitment/training corp for goons
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 3522	Posted - 2014.01.09 22:43:00 - [46] - Quote Snagletooth Johnson wrote: Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Paulus Attredies wrote: I have not actually done anything in the game for several weeks now. WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!! Besides playing Skillque Online, I see little interest in actually playing anymore... What? Didint you get the memo? you're corp is now a Goon territorial protectorate. You're function is now to protect the Poco assets That RvB has collected for their new overlords...no PvP unless those assets are attacked...fall in line or you will never be invited to move up the food chain into Goons. Pretty sad, RvB selling out and becoming a Hi-sec recruitment/training corp for goons Someone sounds mad about Goons. Proof of your weird imagination or it stays what it is....your weird imagination. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Corthon Bar Noir Standing United. 4	Posted - 2014.01.10 01:10:00 - [47] - Quote Join Ether red federation or blue republic, these two corps are constantly at war with eachother and provide noob friendly fights and large scale battles with very very minimal downsides.
Miriya Zakalwe Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 29	Posted - 2014.01.10 01:24:00 - [48] - Quote To be fair to the OP, that FW station undock message is dumb.

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