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KIAEddZ	Posted - 2003.09.10 12:44:00 - [1] Will not allow members of the NVA to be fired upon without recoursitive action, no matter how new the member is to the NVA. Last night a solid threat was issued in Venal space by a TTI member (tehel) on a member of the Rona Corporation in local space, this is totally unacceptable to KIA (I can only speak for KIA, although I do feel other NVA members feel the same), and had I not been in CTD heaven, i would of made my feelings a bit clearer. Whilst KIA (and this is purely a personal Corp pov, not retiscent of any NVA stance on this matter as is clear by the NVA website POS list) is reluctant to openly engage TTI members that were once friends, in a hope that their foolish, tiranic and disrespectful leadership maybe soon overthrown, (we hope leaving TTI intact with its diplomatic and righteous members steering its new course) we will not allow threats on the staff of Corps that now reside within the New Venal Alliance to go unanswered. This "war", and I use this description in the very loosest terms, will soon reach a crunch point. The truth is, that right now NVA corps mostly are very very reluctant to engage normal TTI members as the enemy and vice versa, a few skirmishes have happened for sure, but nothing that would cause such verocity of recourse that a killing of an NVA member in Venal space would. KIA would like to see TTIs total withdrawal from Venal space until a time comes that peace maybe sought, whilst this may not feel like the right thing to do for those that have made their home there these past months, threatening people in local chat, with 1/2 a dozen NVA combat pilots sat in station, is hardly gonna help towards a feeling of mutual stability. Just thought i'd make a small post in an effort to clearer understand the actions/reactions of KIA in our space, an act of war against any member of the NVA, is an act of war against all, do not expect us to sit by idly. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2003.09.10 12:44:00 - [2] Will not allow members of the NVA to be fired upon without recoursitive action, no matter how new the member is to the NVA. Last night a solid threat was issued in Venal space by a TTI member (tehel) on a member of the Rona Corporation in local space, this is totally unacceptable to KIA (I can only speak for KIA, although I do feel other NVA members feel the same), and had I not been in CTD heaven, i would of made my feelings a bit clearer. Whilst KIA (and this is purely a personal Corp pov, not retiscent of any NVA stance on this matter as is clear by the NVA website POS list) is reluctant to openly engage TTI members that were once friends, in a hope that their foolish, tiranic and disrespectful leadership maybe soon overthrown, (we hope leaving TTI intact with its diplomatic and righteous members steering its new course) we will not allow threats on the staff of Corps that now reside within the New Venal Alliance to go unanswered. This "war", and I use this description in the very loosest terms, will soon reach a crunch point. The truth is, that right now NVA corps mostly are very very reluctant to engage normal TTI members as the enemy and vice versa, a few skirmishes have happened for sure, but nothing that would cause such verocity of recourse that a killing of an NVA member in Venal space would. KIA would like to see TTIs total withdrawal from Venal space until a time comes that peace maybe sought, whilst this may not feel like the right thing to do for those that have made their home there these past months, threatening people in local chat, with 1/2 a dozen NVA combat pilots sat in station, is hardly gonna help towards a feeling of mutual stability. Just thought i'd make a small post in an effort to clearer understand the actions/reactions of KIA in our space, an act of war against any member of the NVA, is an act of war against all, do not expect us to sit by idly. KIA EVE Home
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2003.09.10 14:41:00 - [3] just so people know, do you have an up-to-date list of the members of the NVA? I wouldn't like to attack/not attack the wrong person now, would I? .
drunkenmaster Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2003.09.10 14:41:00 - [4] just so people know, do you have an up-to-date list of the members of the NVA? I wouldn't like to attack/not attack the wrong person now, would I? .
j0sephine	Posted - 2003.09.10 14:50:00 - [5] "just so people know, do you have an up-to-date list of the members of the NVA? I wouldn't like to attack/not attack the wrong person now, would I? " ... Well, http://venal.no-ip.com/ seems up to date... o.O
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2003.09.10 14:50:00 - [6] "just so people know, do you have an up-to-date list of the members of the NVA? I wouldn't like to attack/not attack the wrong person now, would I? " ... Well, http://venal.no-ip.com/ seems up to date... o.O
Athule Snanm	Posted - 2003.09.10 14:55:00 - [7] Yup, I'm suprised you didn't remember DM :-) People interested in my own, personal, opinions on an end to the war can have a quick look in the forums there... _______________________________ Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene!
Athule Snanm Amarr Blue Apple Industries	Posted - 2003.09.10 14:55:00 - [8] Yup, I'm suprised you didn't remember DM :-) People interested in my own, personal, opinions on an end to the war can have a quick look in the forums there... _______________________________ Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene!
Tehel Necrona	Posted - 2003.09.10 17:23:00 - [9] TTI is at war with Jericho Fraction. Other NVA members will not be shot at unless they attack TTI firstly. This was the case for the Rona Corp member that i attacked. Earlier in the week we had one of our members attacked by Rona Corp outside the Y-4 Station. How KIA react to this is of course at their own disgression, but be advised TTI will not leave venal, or any region unless it is in our best interests. -Necro
Tehel Necrona Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2003.09.10 17:23:00 - [10] TTI is at war with Jericho Fraction. Other NVA members will not be shot at unless they attack TTI firstly. This was the case for the Rona Corp member that i attacked. Earlier in the week we had one of our members attacked by Rona Corp outside the Y-4 Station. How KIA react to this is of course at their own disgression, but be advised TTI will not leave venal, or any region unless it is in our best interests. -Necro
GunnyP	Posted - 2003.09.10 22:08:00 - [11] Point in fact, Rona warships have twice attacked TTI shipping with out provacation. We have for the most part pulled out of Y-4 to avoid any chance hostile contact. We also are not attacking any NVA ships. If Rona continues to fire on TTI ships, well... I would rather avoid that, and give peace a chance to take root. Would someone please speak with them?
GunnyP Gamma Combat Corp	Posted - 2003.09.10 22:08:00 - [12] Point in fact, Rona warships have twice attacked TTI shipping with out provacation. We have for the most part pulled out of Y-4 to avoid any chance hostile contact. We also are not attacking any NVA ships. If Rona continues to fire on TTI ships, well... I would rather avoid that, and give peace a chance to take root. Would someone please speak with them?
teh pR3acH3r	Posted - 2003.09.10 22:24:00 - [13] i think renox just voided any chance of peace ;) _________________________________ Indefinately MIA Former CEO Occassus Republica - Military Division Leader Founding members of the Venal Alliance You'll Find Religion When I Find You
teh pR3acH3r Antidotum	Posted - 2003.09.10 22:24:00 - [14] i think renox just voided any chance of peace ;) _________________________________
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2003.09.11 01:07:00 - [15] I'm sorry but Jade only got what was coming to her. If she want's to use an alt to attack industrials in secure space and get her alt killed is fine by us. But I am sure that TTI will remember that and keep an eye to return the favor... correctly. Come'n Preach... she left her butt in the wind. I didn't come screaming at Homo when he caught me like that weeks before the war. And I had no one come running to my defense either. I will admit that I implied that he was a bug. I'm entitled to say a little something along with damn. But this is silly. Eve Guardian - Former Reporter
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2003.09.11 01:07:00 - [16] I'm sorry but Jade only got what was coming to her. If she want's to use an alt to attack industrials in secure space and get her alt killed is fine by us. But I am sure that TTI will remember that and keep an eye to return the favor... correctly. Come'n Preach... she left her butt in the wind. I didn't come screaming at Homo when he caught me like that weeks before the war. And I had no one come running to my defense either. I will admit that I implied that he was a bug. I'm entitled to say a little something along with damn. But this is silly. Quote: The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it. Misanthropy: It's not just for Rednecks!
Flatliner	Posted - 2003.09.11 01:09:00 - [17] Yes yes kill TTI, stab them, beat them, slaughter them, and of course stroke the corpse afterwards. Like this. /me Strokes Tehels corpse Flatliner.
Mark A	Posted - 2003.09.11 01:09:00 - [18] I'd just like to say that I'm also aware of RONA Corp members initiating hostilities against TTI pilots, so perhaps you had better talk to them. It's clear that such actions could quickly escalate the de facto ceasefire with the NVA, and I'd echo the sentiment on both sides that a war with our former allies isn't something we particularly relish. The exception to the rule is Jericho Fraction, and Jade in particular, who remain KOS. However as I understand it their recent behaviour isn't making them many friends even within the NVA these days. ____________________________________
Flatliner Finite Horizon	Posted - 2003.09.11 01:09:00 - [19] Yes yes kill TTI, stab them, beat them, slaughter them, and of course stroke the corpse afterwards. Like this. /me Strokes Tehels corpse Flatliner.
Mark A Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2003.09.11 01:09:00 - [20] I'd just like to say that I'm also aware of RONA Corp members initiating hostilities against TTI pilots, so perhaps you had better talk to them. It's clear that such actions could quickly escalate the de facto ceasefire with the NVA, and I'd echo the sentiment on both sides that a war with our former allies isn't something we particularly relish. The exception to the rule is Jericho Fraction, and Jade in particular, who remain KOS. However as I understand it their recent behaviour isn't making them many friends even within the NVA these days.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.09.11 02:29:00 - [21] Right Shar Tegral you lying charlatan! Now I am really angry with you. How dare you accuse me of using alts to attack a Taggart industrial? You low deceitful crass-minded snake. The incident you refer to was a foolish action yes, but it involved Jasmine Constantine who is an independent player within the Jericho Fraction. Jasmine has been playing for the last month and bit, and as anyone who has met her can tell you, is most definitely not an alt of mine. For the record I donÆt play with alts, I have only ever used the alt ôMelisandeö to make stuck petitions and chat in the help channel while awaiting unsticking. This type of unsubstantiated lying deception with the intent to damage another reputation is exactly the reason you taggart types are despised. I am furious with you. Apologise, immediately, this is the third lie you have told about me this evening and by far the worst. I am disgusted. JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2003.09.11 02:29:00 - [22] Right Shar Tegral you lying charlatan! Now I am really angry with you. How dare you accuse me of using alts to attack a Taggart industrial? You low deceitful crass-minded snake. The incident you refer to was a foolish action yes, but it involved Jasmine Constantine who is an independent player within the Jericho Fraction. Jasmine has been playing for the last month and bit, and as anyone who has met her can tell you, is most definitely not an alt of mine. For the record I donÆt play with alts, I have only ever used the alt ôMelisandeö to make stuck petitions and chat in the help channel while awaiting unsticking. This type of unsubstantiated lying deception with the intent to damage another reputation is exactly the reason you taggart types are despised. I am furious with you. Apologise, immediately, this is the third lie you have told about me this evening and by far the worst. I am disgusted. JF Public Forum
Yoseph Cohen	Posted - 2003.09.11 02:41:00 - [23] Edited by: Yoseph Cohen on 11/09/2003 02:41:35 From Jade to TN... Quote: I am furious with you. I am disgusted. I'm sorry but the rest of us care why? Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces (A divison of Israeli Space Corporation)
Yoseph Cohen Gallente	Posted - 2003.09.11 02:41:00 - [24] Edited by: Yoseph Cohen on 11/09/2003 02:41:35 From Jade to TN... Quote: I am furious with you. I am disgusted. I'm sorry but the rest of us care why? Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces (A divison of Israeli Space Corporation)
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.09.11 02:46:00 - [25] I thought even you would be above this one Yoseph. Evidently not. JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2003.09.11 02:46:00 - [26] I thought even you would be above this one Yoseph. Evidently not. JF Public Forum
Yoseph Cohen	Posted - 2003.09.11 02:55:00 - [27] No Jade, I'm just sick and tired of hearing your response to anyone and everyone that disagrees with you: ""He's a TTI Alt!"" ""He's a LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!"". To listen to you go at it, everyone on the game is a liar, and you're the only one that tells the truth. You couldn't even be decent enough to allow Yosh to resign TTI and move on in peace. No, you had to attack him. Quite frankly, I'd have alot more respect for you if you just had the balls to admit you're not right 100 precent of the time. Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces (A divison of Israeli Space Corporation)
Yoseph Cohen Gallente	Posted - 2003.09.11 02:55:00 - [28] No Jade, I'm just sick and tired of hearing your response to anyone and everyone that disagrees with you: ""He's a TTI Alt!"" ""He's a LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!"". To listen to you go at it, everyone on the game is a liar, and you're the only one that tells the truth. You couldn't even be decent enough to allow Yosh to resign TTI and move on in peace. No, you had to attack him. Quite frankly, I'd have alot more respect for you if you just had the balls to admit you're not right 100 precent of the time. Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces (A divison of Israeli Space Corporation)
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.09.11 03:07:00 - [29] Don't be such an ass Joseph! ... Yoshunwatsits retirement spiel included a political gesture designed to single out Jericho for attack amongst the NVA. That wasn't something like Calladen's leaving with dignity, that was just another TTI/Joseph political stunt. Re lying, I understand you are frustrated to be caught out in telling so many lies Yoseph. But frankly, if you are going to try to win a place for yourself as a political commentator you need to gain a better grasp of how to interpret facts. You accused me of siding with the Welfare Princess ... false You accused me of lying about the alliance timeing .... false You've made a virtual career of talking crap and making unfounded allegations. And suprise suprise, here you are defending Shar Tegrals false allegation that I used an alt to attack tti. You are a pointless muppet without a clue. JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2003.09.11 03:07:00 - [30] Don't be such an ass Joseph! ... Yoshunwatsits retirement spiel included a political gesture designed to single out Jericho for attack amongst the NVA. That wasn't something like Calladen's leaving with dignity, that was just another TTI/Joseph political stunt. Re lying, I understand you are frustrated to be caught out in telling so many lies Yoseph. But frankly, if you are going to try to win a place for yourself as a political commentator you need to gain a better grasp of how to interpret facts. You accused me of siding with the Welfare Princess ... false You accused me of lying about the alliance timeing .... false You've made a virtual career of talking crap and making unfounded allegations. And suprise suprise, here you are defending Shar Tegrals false allegation that I used an alt to attack tti. You are a pointless muppet without a clue. JF Public Forum

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