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Yoseph Cohen
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:18:00 - [31]

Guess what Jade? I trust what Qball has to say INFINATELY more than I trust what YOU say.

Therefor; Qball says you lied, I believe him.

Why? Because he has no reason to say you lied - your both in the same freaking alliance.

Therefor, chances are better than 50-50 that he is in fact telling the truth, and is actually tired of hearing your spin.

So, why don't you settle in your own alliance what the truth is, then attack me.

Better yet, why don't you call Qball a liar as well.

Prehaps you don't have the intestional fortitude.

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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:18:00 - [32]

Guess what Jade? I trust what Qball has to say INFINATELY more than I trust what YOU say.

Therefor; Qball says you lied, I believe him.

Why? Because he has no reason to say you lied - your both in the same freaking alliance.

Therefor, chances are better than 50-50 that he is in fact telling the truth, and is actually tired of hearing your spin.

So, why don't you settle in your own alliance what the truth is, then attack me.

Better yet, why don't you call Qball a liar as well.

Prehaps you don't have the intestional fortitude.

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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:32:00 - [33]

Yoseph ... are you saying the two timestamped segments of chatlogs I posted in proof are not enough for you?

You are sadly almost a complete idiot. You are so blinkered and singled minded in your fumbling attempts to service your bias in this matter that its literally embarrassing to watch.

And we've been here before.

You swore blind you were right on the "welfare princess" issue and you were completely wrong.

Your wrong on this to.

Basically, you are acting like a spoiled brat, who failing to win a logical point throws a tantrum.

Your debating style is totally compromised by a goldfish attention-span and total inability to address your opponents counterpoints before moving on to the next purile rant.

Sad.

So you come to this thread to support somebody else's lie?

Its a new one on me.






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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:32:00 - [34]

Yoseph ... are you saying the two timestamped segments of chatlogs I posted in proof are not enough for you?

You are sadly almost a complete idiot. You are so blinkered and singled minded in your fumbling attempts to service your bias in this matter that its literally embarrassing to watch.

And we've been here before.

You swore blind you were right on the "welfare princess" issue and you were completely wrong.

Your wrong on this to.

Basically, you are acting like a spoiled brat, who failing to win a logical point throws a tantrum.

Your debating style is totally compromised by a goldfish attention-span and total inability to address your opponents counterpoints before moving on to the next purile rant.

Sad.

So you come to this thread to support somebody else's lie?

Its a new one on me.






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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:35:00 - [35]

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Jasmine Constantine who is an independent player within the Jericho Fraction.


Shar waves her hands a little

Whoa... I'm not a liar. This is not to say that reports could be greatly mistaken. That is an apology for those of with reading impairments. It only serves to confirm that not only do you, as in our enemy you, set the low level of interaction but you, again our enemy you, are rather inept, STUPID for the reading impaired, at it.

However I find it interesting that you allow an "independent player" into your corp. I thought that is what made TTI unreliable in your opinion.

I apologize... I seem to be getting real confused here. Not sure if it's a conflict between my integrity and your lack there of.

But in all honesty... you are in politics and I am in business. The is only two ways for us to interact. As a team in which case the businessperson joins the politician in some scheme; or not as a team where the businessperson -is- the politician's scheme.

I'm not a randian, no matter how randy I may get, but I think that is fairly accurate of Eve. There are no citizens. Only business people and those who pretend to not be business people. Either way you are in business, there are no citizens to free, and no political will from which you can gain empowerment.

You are a demogogue but only to a select few misfits. And no, the misfits are not the NVA. Even some of them find you a little... whatever.

But misfits must conform in some fashion and you do very well with your hatemongering ilk. I choose to confrom to carebearishness whenever I can and it works for our, how is it put, weak pansy behind selves.

PS: As long as you choose to try to misrepresent my words, in entirety, like you insist on doing I will continue to do what I can to help you.

You are such a sweet & sad child who has so much pent up, and unresolved, hostility. Never let it be said that even a lowly TTI person cares not for your pain and will not offer help.

Bottom line is this. I refuse to twist, or intentionally break, the words you say. I'll happily apologize, even abjectly apologize, if you would stop doing that to others.

We ain't much in the way of citizens but we are a society. Without some level of dignity we are a very poor one indeed. I'll happily pod you but I am trying not to disrespect you.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:35:00 - [36]

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Jasmine Constantine who is an independent player within the Jericho Fraction.


Shar waves her hands a little

Whoa... I'm not a liar. This is not to say that reports could be greatly mistaken. That is an apology for those of with reading impairments. It only serves to confirm that not only do you, as in our enemy you, set the low level of interaction but you, again our enemy you, are rather inept, STUPID for the reading impaired, at it.

However I find it interesting that you allow an "independent player" into your corp. I thought that is what made TTI unreliable in your opinion.

I apologize... I seem to be getting real confused here. Not sure if it's a conflict between my integrity and your lack there of.

But in all honesty... you are in politics and I am in business. The is only two ways for us to interact. As a team in which case the businessperson joins the politician in some scheme; or not as a team where the businessperson -is- the politician's scheme.

I'm not a randian, no matter how randy I may get, but I think that is fairly accurate of Eve. There are no citizens. Only business people and those who pretend to not be business people. Either way you are in business, there are no citizens to free, and no political will from which you can gain empowerment.

You are a demogogue but only to a select few misfits. And no, the misfits are not the NVA. Even some of them find you a little... whatever.

But misfits must conform in some fashion and you do very well with your hatemongering ilk. I choose to confrom to carebearishness whenever I can and it works for our, how is it put, weak pansy behind selves.

PS: As long as you choose to try to misrepresent my words, in entirety, like you insist on doing I will continue to do what I can to help you.

You are such a sweet & sad child who has so much pent up, and unresolved, hostility. Never let it be said that even a lowly TTI person cares not for your pain and will not offer help.

Bottom line is this. I refuse to twist, or intentionally break, the words you say. I'll happily apologize, even abjectly apologize, if you would stop doing that to others.

We ain't much in the way of citizens but we are a society. Without some level of dignity we are a very poor one indeed. I'll happily pod you but I am trying not to disrespect you.
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Yoseph Cohen
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:36:00 - [37]

Ok....

Since you can no nothing but scream and shout and spin...

here's an exact quote from QBall:

Quote:

1) TTI was a large part of the alliance before JERICO, I would know I'm the one who ultimately accepted both of the corp into the alliance.

2) The TTI BYOM Replacment deal was on the table WAY before the whole decision take place. Eriq brought the deal about 2 weeks before the whole split. Why Jade didn't know I have no idea.

JADE stop digging holes on the boards ok, it's already been a problem once. Quit while your ahead, if stuff like this keep's compromising Venal and now the NVA I'm gonna go nuts. I have nasty log's on everyone.



Now. Since you didn't respond to what I said before - call Qball an out and out liar, or admit he, and I by extenton, are telling the truth.

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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:36:00 - [38]

Ok....

Since you can no nothing but scream and shout and spin...

here's an exact quote from QBall:

Quote:

1) TTI was a large part of the alliance before JERICO, I would know I'm the one who ultimately accepted both of the corp into the alliance.

2) The TTI BYOM Replacment deal was on the table WAY before the whole decision take place. Eriq brought the deal about 2 weeks before the whole split. Why Jade didn't know I have no idea.

JADE stop digging holes on the boards ok, it's already been a problem once. Quit while your ahead, if stuff like this keep's compromising Venal and now the NVA I'm gonna go nuts. I have nasty log's on everyone.



Now. Since you didn't respond to what I said before - call Qball an out and out liar, or admit he, and I by extenton, are telling the truth.

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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:42:00 - [39]

So let me get this straight Joseph .... you are staking your repution and whole case on Qball having told you the "truth" ?

You are ignoring the evidence of the timestamped chatlogs (that no-body has disputed the veracity of)

You are ignoring the comment from the TTI chap who stated that "worthless NAP" was the limit of early participation.

And you place your entire credibility on the word of Qball?

Is this what how you want to play it?




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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:42:00 - [40]

So let me get this straight Joseph .... you are staking your repution and whole case on Qball having told you the "truth" ?

You are ignoring the evidence of the timestamped chatlogs (that no-body has disputed the veracity of)

You are ignoring the comment from the TTI chap who stated that "worthless NAP" was the limit of early participation.

And you place your entire credibility on the word of Qball?

Is this what how you want to play it?




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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:43:00 - [41]

Hey Yosef... sorry to say this sir but that is a sucker's argument. Its actual proof of what she said and you didn't notice that you did it.

You are linking the validity of your statements to a 3rd party's statement. If one is right, both are right. As a debating style it is boorish and weak.

But I can understand stooping to such a tactic. She's got more wiggles then Jello and is as twisty as a slinkie. However it is finesse that catches the slinkiest of slinks and wiggliest of wiggles. Not ham-handedness.

The bottom line is this... you are right regardless of the validity of Q-ball's statements. (And putting Q-ball in this position is dirty pool, no pun intended.) Sit back and calmly realize that you can never shut her up. Ever.

However your dignity is still intact. That she can't have, yours or her own. And there in lies peace for oneself and the ability to defeat your enemies.

An enemy is nothing more than someone who can hurt you. Stop empowering her and she's nothing really.
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:43:00 - [42]

Hey Yosef... sorry to say this sir but that is a sucker's argument. Its actual proof of what she said and you didn't notice that you did it.

You are linking the validity of your statements to a 3rd party's statement. If one is right, both are right. As a debating style it is boorish and weak.

But I can understand stooping to such a tactic. She's got more wiggles then Jello and is as twisty as a slinkie. However it is finesse that catches the slinkiest of slinks and wiggliest of wiggles. Not ham-handedness.

The bottom line is this... you are right regardless of the validity of Q-ball's statements. (And putting Q-ball in this position is dirty pool, no pun intended.) Sit back and calmly realize that you can never shut her up. Ever.

However your dignity is still intact. That she can't have, yours or her own. And there in lies peace for oneself and the ability to defeat your enemies.

An enemy is nothing more than someone who can hurt you. Stop empowering her and she's nothing really.
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:45:00 - [43]

Way to spin jade, I didn't say that was the extent. I said that TTI was involved in expelling incursions, and was involved in defending against the original Evolution invasion. Although TTI did this, it was not required.
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:45:00 - [44]

Way to spin jade, I didn't say that was the extent. I said that TTI was involved in expelling incursions, and was involved in defending against the original Evolution invasion. Although TTI did this, it was not required.
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:48:00 - [45]

[Shar Tegral lied]

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Whoa... I'm not a liar.


Liar.

Love and peace



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Yoseph Cohen
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:48:00 - [46]

I place more faith in what Qball says, than what you say, Jade.

Shocking, I know.

Incredibly amusing that you will not directly call him a liar, however.

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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:48:00 - [47]

[Shar Tegral lied]

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Whoa... I'm not a liar.


Liar.

Love and peace



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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:48:00 - [48]

I place more faith in what Qball says, than what you say, Jade.

Shocking, I know.

Incredibly amusing that you will not directly call him a liar, however.

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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:50:00 - [49]

I'm waiting for you to say yes or no to my question Joseph.




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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:50:00 - [50]

I'm waiting for you to say yes or no to my question Joseph.




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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:52:00 - [51]

Why don't YOU answer the question Jade? Is QBall a liar or not? Very simple.

If he is, fine, I look like an idiot, and so does he.

If he's not, you look like an idiot.

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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:52:00 - [52]

Why don't YOU answer the question Jade? Is QBall a liar or not? Very simple.

If he is, fine, I look like an idiot, and so does he.

If he's not, you look like an idiot.

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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:54:00 - [53]

YES or NO ? Joseph


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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:54:00 - [54]

YES or NO ? Joseph


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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:56:00 - [55]

vf142rex,

I find it deeply hilarious you edited your gaff out of the other thread. Obviously hit a raw nerve eh? Still editing threads to limit exposure to ongoing debate is an admission of defeat. Put it back m'dear or I can't take you seriously.

Love and peace




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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:56:00 - [56]

vf142rex,

I find it deeply hilarious you edited your gaff out of the other thread. Obviously hit a raw nerve eh? Still editing threads to limit exposure to ongoing debate is an admission of defeat. Put it back m'dear or I can't take you seriously.

Love and peace




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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:57:00 - [57]

Ok I officially delcare that Jade's account must be hacked. The behavior has been rapidly declining... far from the elegance I've come to expect.

I mean whoever it is is barking like a dog.

I mean not much difference between "woof, woof" and "yes, no" or "liar, liar". She's yapping like the lapdogs she talks about.

Whoever you are... I shall hear thee no more. I abjure you and acknowledge thy dispecable presence no more.
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:57:00 - [58]

Ok I officially delcare that Jade's account must be hacked. The behavior has been rapidly declining... far from the elegance I've come to expect.

I mean whoever it is is barking like a dog.

I mean not much difference between "woof, woof" and "yes, no" or "liar, liar". She's yapping like the lapdogs she talks about.

Whoever you are... I shall hear thee no more. I abjure you and acknowledge thy dispecable presence no more.
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:58:00 - [59]

Oh? You took me seriously in our conversation,,,although you haven't sent me the log of it as I requested. Something you are scared of?
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Posted - 2003.09.11 03:58:00 - [60]

Behold, let everyone in EVE see Jade Constantine and the spinner that she is. Gone is the venner of even including bits of truth with her claptrap.

Since you obviously have a hard time reading Jade, let me go over it with you very....s..l...o...w...l...y.

I believe that QBall is telling the truth. I'm willing to put some chips on that.

I also believe that QBall is a more impartical source than you'll ever dream of being.

So stop ducking, and stop spinning, and answer the bloody question - is QBall a liar, or not?

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