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Zenryoku
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Posted - 2006.03.20 02:02:00 -
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Hi all, I've been checking out the HACs lately and have noticed that the Caldari Eagle has a 10% bonus/level for medium hybrid optimal range for both the Cruiser skill and the Heavy Assault skill...do these stack? 20%/level seems pretty sweet.
Let me know please, thanks in advance. Zen. Zenryoku Director, Eccentric Corporation ---------------------------------- We are recruiting! All skill levels welcome! Mining, building, PVP, hunting! Contact Zenryoku or Merrikai for details! |

Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.20 02:05:00 -
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Even better than that.
At level 5 they stack 1.5 * 1.5 = 2.25 = 125% more optimal range. 
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Lunarfury
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Posted - 2006.03.20 02:05:00 -
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yeah, they do stack. Eagle can shoot pretty far and really well. Just damage isn't all that great though.
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Zenryoku
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Posted - 2006.03.20 03:08:00 -
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Great, thanks for the replies, I'll add it to my short-list.
Thanks again!
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Ahop Yol
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Posted - 2006.03.20 10:01:00 -
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Edited by: Ahop Yol on 20/03/2006 10:01:56 205km optimal with HAC4 and Sharpshooter 4 (sharpshooter 5 finishing today) while using 250mm railgun II's and 2 tracking comp II's + 1 tracking enhancer II and Spike ammo)
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2006.03.20 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ahop Yol
205km optimal with HAC4 and Sharpshooter 4 (sharpshooter 5 finishing today) while using 250mm railgun II's and 2 tracking comp II's + 1 tracking enhancer II and Spike ammo)
The only probably is that with an optimal of 60km (using AntiMatter ammo) you kind of suck at solo PvP 
Mind you, its one of the best inty hunters in game.
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Necroth
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Posted - 2006.03.20 10:45:00 -
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amazing sniping range, but crap damage outpout... the eagle is very dedicated, too much imo. the only effective fit is the sniping one... -------- Necroth |

Kaleeb
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Posted - 2006.03.20 10:48:00 -
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sniping is for women 
fitting blasters is pretty fun on it though 
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Legenda
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Posted - 2006.03.20 11:12:00 -
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Try the Eagle with Tech II blasters and be surprised ....
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Reprismo
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Posted - 2006.03.20 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Reprismo on 20/03/2006 11:24:56 when the Eagle comes out of warp at 200km from the target Anything less than a T1 Cruiser (Inties, T1 Frigs, Interdictors, Assault Frigs) better have a good transversal or they will die to an Eagle pilot with good skills and the right weaponary (T2 250 Rails / Spike M Ammo 
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Edison Frisk
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Posted - 2006.03.21 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Edison Frisk on 21/03/2006 22:35:00 Edited by: Edison Frisk on 21/03/2006 22:34:41 Edited by: Edison Frisk on 21/03/2006 22:33:26
Originally by: Necroth amazing sniping range, but crap damage outpout... the eagle is very dedicated, too much imo. the only effective fit is the sniping one...
not good damage?? put a gisti shield booster on it, rack of mag stabs and you are away, also if your cool like me you will use Blasters and get wrecking shots of over 700 m'kay 
not high damage, pffft!
edit: not to mention the optimal with antimatter on the blasters is insane taking into account the range bonus 
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KillmAll187
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Posted - 2006.03.22 00:05:00 -
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Bleagle is pretty insane. Does what the Deimos is designed for even better. Tanks and ganks like no tomorrow with a pith large sb.
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Akat
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Posted - 2006.03.22 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ahop Yol Edited by: Ahop Yol on 20/03/2006 10:01:56 205km optimal with HAC4 and Sharpshooter 4 (sharpshooter 5 finishing today) while using 250mm railgun II's and 2 tracking comp II's + 1 tracking enhancer II and Spike ammo)
228km optimal with HAC 5 
While im not a huge fan of sniping, its excellent for picking off tacklers for fleet support and 60km with antimatter is nothing to laught at.
Also as Kaleeb said, blaster eagle is fun; you can fit 4x T2 neutron with a few pdu. I "think" 2 nos and 4 neutrons T2 will also fit with 4 pdu T2 (if not then definitly ions). Makes a killer tanker and a nasty suprise for anyone thinking your sniping.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.22 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: pshepherd
Originally by: Ahop Yol
205km optimal with HAC4 and Sharpshooter 4 (sharpshooter 5 finishing today) while using 250mm railgun II's and 2 tracking comp II's + 1 tracking enhancer II and Spike ammo)
The only probably is that with an optimal of 60km (using AntiMatter ammo) you kind of suck at solo PvP 
Mind you, its one of the best inty hunters in game.
It's not like your traking gets worse with better optimal range though, so if you're able to hit decently with 40km range and AM, you'll still beable to hit well at 40km with AM with a 60km optimal, atleast that's what it's seemed like to me.
Optimal only seems to dictate your range. Tracking, regardless of optimal, will dictate your chances of hitting iirc.
Could be wrong, but I've never had a problem hitting something 10km away with 150s on my harpy when transversal isn't that much.
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Reprismo
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Reprismo on 23/03/2006 11:56:43 Guys - Correct me if i,m wrong here but Tracking only really matter closer than 30-40km where fast targets are concerned Now i know that an Interceptor 200km away doing faster than a transversal of 2000 will be hard to hit Surely the answer is to look for what skill iproves what ? Dunno whether this is corrct so here we go The number 1 skill for an Eagle pilot (Sniper) is ACCURACY (dontmatter how hard you hit, if yu dont hit the target) These IMHO are the Skills to take to level 5 to be an uber Eagle pilot
More Accuracy = Motion Prediction More Damage = HAC / Med Railgun Specs / Surgical Strike More ROF = Rapid Fire More Distance = HAC / Sharpshooter / Long Distance Targeting Less Fall off = Trajectory Analysis Less Cap = Advanced weps upgrades / Controlled Bursts
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Waut
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:56:00 -
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All keep quiet about the Eagle guys. It's the only HAC I can somewhat afford so lets not hype this as well shall we? 
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Reprismo
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Reprismo Edited by: Reprismo on 23/03/2006 11:56:43 Guys - Correct me if i,m wrong here but Tracking only really matter closer than 30-40km where fast targets are concerned Now i know that an Interceptor 200km away doing faster than a transversal of 2000 will be hard to hit Surely the answer is to look for what skill iproves what ? Dunno whether this is corrct so here we go The number 1 skill for an Eagle pilot (Sniper) is ACCURACY (dontmatter how hard you hit, if yu dont hit the target) These IMHO are the Skills to take to level 5 to be an uber Eagle pilot
More Accuracy = Motion Prediction More Damage = HAC / Med Railgun Specs / Surgical Strike More ROF = Rapid Fire More Distance = HAC / Sharpshooter / Long Distance Targeting Less Fall off = Trajectory Analysis Less Cap = Advanced weps upgrades / Controlled Bursts
Long Distance Targeting for Distance too 
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bundy bear
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: bundy bear on 23/03/2006 12:47:49 A blaster eagle with null is hella scary.
edit: changed to null always get them mixed up
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2006.03.23 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Waut All keep quiet about the Eagle guys. It's the only HAC I can somewhat afford so lets not hype this as well shall we? 
Indeed I dont mind 100mil for an eagle, better than the 300mil cerberus and the close to 200mil deimos/vaga/ishtar 
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Kamate
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Posted - 2006.03.24 01:46:00 -
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Eagle is a great ship if used right....
It is more versatile than some people give it credit for.
Good for fleet fights...uber range.
Good for solo/group sniping of anything smaller than a cruiser...inties crap themselves when they get sniped and podded at 200km!! before they can warp away, which is really nice since so many people use inties now in solo pvp...nice to have an effective counter.
Better than a Deimos in up close in your face slugging when used as a beagle...whether that is a feather in the eagle's cap or a disgrace to a dedicated blaster boats like the deimos i will let the readers decide.
It is scary to watch a Beagle with a rack of blasters and 2 Nos chew up a deimos despite that it puts out less dps...i have mixed emotions as i fly both a deimos and an eagle on this point. (not to deviate...but Deimos needs love really, when it gets beat by a sniper at its primary role, i mean come on!)
Finally it has one of the toughest tanks in the entire game...this thing is rock solid....it can take a beating!!!
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Kamate
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Posted - 2006.03.24 01:49:00 -
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expect some coming price inflation as well until ccp does something new about t2 bpos, we will likely see its price hedge up some especially as more people start using it as it is cheaper than the others and learn it is not so bad.
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DualityX
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Posted - 2006.03.24 01:55:00 -
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A eagle is more a frig killer at range.
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