Hi,

I know there is a million threads on give new players extra SP and the like and they get shot down fairly quickly with macanis law (or something like that).

This is some what different and hopefully will avoid the same responses... Here goes:

Can you add a feature that will credit additional SP for the use of skills?

E.g.
1. Player uses EW in combat
-- (has to actually activate a module on a target that is causing the player damage or some such to avoid stats padding)
2. Player gets credited a SMALL* amount of additional SP in the category that the activated modules requirements reside.
3. ??
4. Profit.

* SMALL would be something like 1SP per second the module is active

So, how bad is it...?

Attempt to negate stats padding. Open to suggestions on that. I am sure some genius here can come up with something.

Short answer IMO is no. There are a multitude of reasons, from abuse to quite frankly its not needed.

Not needed I say? Why yes, not needed.

One of the reasons that EVE's system works is that SP levels do not mean nearly as much as in other traditional MMO's

Now granted I haven't played very many other MMO's in recent years so my information may be a bit dated. But in traditional MMO's that I have played (where you gain SP or XP by playing), your characters "level" was very important. For example it was very hard if not impossible for a level 2 player to hang with level 40 players. Quite frankly this is was got me out of many MMO's as my friends often had more time to grind up their level than I did, so I would get left behind.


Unlike that scenario, this does not have nearly the same effect in EVE. Sure in the beginning there is a bit of a grind still, but before long a new player can easily and effectively hang with the vets. This would be in PVE activities (level 4 missions, Incursions etc). and in PVP.

The only different really becomes that an older player has more options.

To use me and incursions as an example. At one point I wanted to try getting into incursions. I focused on Logi and trained up for that (Oneiros). Once I got that skill I was able to, as a relative noob, fly incursions alongside guys with literally 10x the SP I had. BUT, I could only fly one ship. If the FC was calling for DPS but didn't need logi, Id have to wait.

Fast forward a bit, and now I can still run incursions. But now I can bring big DPS, T3 DPS, or logi (Guardian or Onieros).

Similar with Missions. Probably within 2 months of starting EVE I could run Level 4 missions alongside friends with way more SP than I had, in a meh fit Dominix. They had more ship choices, but I could still participate with them.

And then onto PVP. 3 weeks after I started EVE, I was in my first wardec. My corp threw me into some cheap frigates (Incursus) and said, "dive in and keep stuff pointed" Yea I didn't get many (or any) kills. But I was often instrumental in keeping that one more ship stuck on grid for the fleet to kill. So there I was as a 3 week old noob not only rolling with some big boys, but being USEFUL.

So yea I still have to passively wait for that next cool ship. But the point is the amount of SP you have in EVE does not have nearly the effect that it would in other MMO's

Attempt to negate stats padding. Open to suggestions on that. I am sure some genius here can come up with something.

Eve is a grind all the time for anything you want to do.... One of your toons brings home the bacon, what ever that toon does it is not blowing up ships and having fun.

Implemented correctly this would be similar to the FW kills giving pilots a little extra isk for the kill.

Ed: Passive modules - maybe tie them to aggression timers

Everytime I hear such stuff, I allways ask myself:

Is it better to grind 3 weeks to get the level cap (other MMO's), and enjoy all the content while gearing up after you hit the lv cap, or is it better to sit and wait 6 months to be able to do what you want, and then 6 other months to do the next thing, and then another 6 months for the next and so on and on and on...

well except for who ever said they make isk without grinding in some fashion.

Everytime I hear such stuff, I allways ask myself:

Is it better to grind 3 weeks to get the level cap (other MMO's), and enjoy all the content while gearing up after you hit the lv cap, or is it better to sit and wait 6 months to be able to do what you want, and then 6 other months to do the next thing, and then another 6 months for the next and so on and on and on...

IThere is no way to actively pursue a line of skilling your character other than simply waiting.

I'm a pirate, we make our ISK from blowing stuff up and ransoming pilots. You're welcome to think that's a grind, personally I don't.

This was a part of Eve very early in it's life. It was abused then, it would be again.
Also, I do not wish for grind mechanics to be introduced.

So it's a no.