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Genji Nagi
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Posted - 2006.03.22 18:51:00 -
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Im getting a new laptop and im wondering will the Dell XPS M140 1.73Ghz/2mbcache/533mhzFSB 1GB Shared DDR2 SDRam 2 Dimms and the standard Integrated Intel« Graphics Media Accelerator 900 will be able to run Eve efficienty
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.22 18:52:00 -
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Its all fine... until you hit that integrated graphics.
No, it won't run it at all. There are a number of tricks you can try (see Known Issues forum) that may be able to make it work. But even if you can make it work, you'd be lucky to break 5-10 FPS.
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.03.22 18:57:00 -
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I'm afraid DS is right.
You need to look for something with a dedicated video controller - although it doesn't have to be top of the range.
My Sony laptop has an ATI Radeon 9200m with only 64MB of video memory, but it runs Eve well enough.
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Genji Nagi
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Posted - 2006.03.22 19:03:00 -
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Intel« GMA 900 Extreme Graphics then would it be good? or should i shell out an extra 200 for the 256MB NVidia GeForce Go MXM 6600?
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Mishura Desante
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Posted - 2006.03.22 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Mishura Desante on 22/03/2006 19:05:32
Dell XPS laptop here, runs SPECTACULARLY!
But you definately need to get the one with the Seperate graphics controller (i'm not at home, otherwise i'd run off the specs on mine). Shell out the extra 300 or so for the dedicated graphics card.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.22 19:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Genji Nagi
Intel« GMA 900 Extreme Graphics then would it be good? or should i shell out an extra 200 for the 256MB NVidia GeForce Go MXM 6600?
Nothing Intel Integrated will play EVE.
The GeForce Go will.
But they're charging an extra 200 dollars for something that relatively low-end? Sounds like you're getting gouged.
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Emmerich Steiner
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Posted - 2006.03.22 19:14:00 -
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The only laptop graphics accelerators that I have seen to work with eve are made by either ATI or nVidia..
My SIS graphics accelerator on my laptop can hardly run eve inside a station. outside it's just a mess, half a frame a second and everything is white.
Invest in a fancy graphics card, you wont regret it.
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Babs Johnson
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Posted - 2006.03.22 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: Babs Johnson on 22/03/2006 19:25:14
Originally by: Genji Nagi
Intel« GMA 900 Extreme Graphics then would it be good? or should i shell out an extra 200 for the 256MB NVidia GeForce Go MXM 6600?
By branding their graphics controller "Extreme Graphics" Intel is essentially polishing a turd. It's fine for word processing and spreadsheets, and maybe even for Photoshop if you're not too picky, but for gaming you don't want it.
You want an ATI or nVidia chip in any computer used to play EVE, whether laptop or desktop. I've got an HP Pavilion zd8000 with ATI Mobility Radeon X600 which runs EVE just fine as long as anti-aliasing is turned off.
Laptops are fine if you don't care about stuff like FSAA and you're willing to settle for less than sharp textures. If you really want to experience EVE as it's meant to be, skip the laptop and get a desktop.
EDIT: I can't spell today.
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Duncan MacPherson
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Posted - 2006.03.22 19:23:00 -
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Believe it or not Intel is getting better. It might actually play EvE. I have seen Intel integrated play games like HL2 and Madden 2006.
My job is I work for HP in thier graphics testing lab and I know for a fact that the HP machines with the same Intel integrated graphics will play some of these games. I will be honest - you will get better performance out of an add in card. But the integrated stuff has gotten alot better.
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Jarnis McPieksu
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Posted - 2006.03.22 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Duncan MacPherson
Believe it or not Intel is getting better. It might actually play EvE. I have seen Intel integrated play games like HL2 and Madden 2006.
My job is I work for HP in thier graphics testing lab and I know for a fact that the HP machines with the same Intel integrated graphics will play some of these games. I will be honest - you will get better performance out of an add in card. But the integrated stuff has gotten alot better.
True. Instead of sucking horribly, it 'just' sucks now.
Granted, with GMA900 you might be able to run eve, but it will not be playable by any stretch of imagination. Beats the older intergrated crap that couldn't even start eve due to missing 3D acceleration features...
So, unless its ATI or NVidia graphics chip inside (and not an ATI xpress intergrated crud), it won't be any good for gaming.
- Jarnis McPieksu
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mporph
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Posted - 2006.03.22 19:33:00 -
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I'm running two clients on one of these
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Ethos Logos
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Posted - 2006.03.22 19:34:00 -
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Actually, although most of the replies you have gotten from others here are probably from people far more educated when it comes to computers than I am, I have to say that I played EVE for a long while pre-RMR on mye Packard Bell with Integrated Intel graphic. Tha game ran, and I was able to get the feel of the game and such, but there was a problem with some types of stations that would cause CTD, and I guess that the graphics were to hard to make for the card or something , but as I said, the game ran, I played for a long time, but I would never buy a new computer that I knew I would use for EVE playing with an integrated card.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.03.22 19:39:00 -
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I just got a laptop which is uber, for what I consider an incredible price.
Acer Aspire 5672 WLMI
15.4" Widescreen TFT
X1400 512MB Graphics
2GB DDR2
Dual Core 1.66ghz Intel Core Duo
120gb HDD
Built in webcam (comes with some very entertaining face tracking software)
Slot loading dual layer DVD.. Which can, to quote various reviewers, 'write to almost anything flat and round'
Gigabit Ethernet/BlueTooth/Wireless a/b/g etc... Memory card readers et al
etc etc...
Cost? Only ú1100, or US$1090 / AU$2500 Only catch, which sort of explains the lower price in the US, is that it has lower specs (slightly less video memory and only 1gb DDR2)
UK/Technoworld Link
USA/Electro Discounts
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Maxlis
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Posted - 2006.03.22 19:46:00 -
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The newest revision of intel graphics chips CAN play most modern games, however I would HIGHLY recommend staying away from them on any computer you plan on using for games. It will WORK, however it will not work nearly as well as a dedicated solution. It takes physical memory for itself, which takes longer to access than a dedicated solution with it's own memory.
You might be able to get away with it, but I'd get the lowest end dedicated solution over integrated.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.22 19:48:00 -
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After upgrading my pavilion to 2gb of ram I can run 4 accounts quite well.
But, I gotta turn the a/c on.
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Grainsalt
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Posted - 2006.03.22 19:54:00 -
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Totally agree .. My ATI X700 runs eve like a bad boy.. and it is only 128mn in 1680 x 1050..
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I would recommend using ACER as they are good quality and fairly cheep for it.
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Arkanor
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Posted - 2006.03.22 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Arkanor on 22/03/2006 20:29:45
Originally by: Genji Nagi
Intel« GMA 900 Extreme Graphics then would it be good? or should i shell out an extra 200 for the 256MB NVidia GeForce Go MXM 6600?
Anything that says intel on it is integrated, Graphics cards are a must for all games now (excluding solitaire, etc.)
X800SE 256mb here 
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Wizzkidy
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Posted - 2006.03.22 20:33:00 -
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You will need a laptop with Nvidia or Ati in it.
I have a Amilo lappy
Specs
2Ghz Centrino
17Inch Widescreen
1Gb DDR2
80Gb HDD
Nvidia 6800Go 256
Gbit LAN
54mbps wireless onboard
Runs eve sweet.
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Clain Matta
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:11:00 -
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It most certainly is possible...I run eve on a Dell Inspiron 2200, which is no where near the XPS in capability.
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SephiriotH
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: SephiriotH on 22/03/2006 21:25:47
 LOL , Wizzkidy , I have the same Amilo 3483G :}} running Eve on 1400x900 resolution with 70-110 fps and I already forgot how eve could look otherwise :}}
btw our laptops are really powerhouses , however we have small problem . I tried to make it with 2gb of ram.. and it just didnt switched on . Problem is - our power sources of 120 W output is not not powerful enough ;-/ or we will need a low-power-consuming RAM if we want to have 2 Gb...
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Cisplatin
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:28:00 -
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I'm running EVe on a compaq presario with a turion 1.7 Ghz... the chip is a radeon Xpress200M I think.. It's integrated and low end.
I play EVE just fine. I'm sure it could run better, but it plays fine for me...
I have no idea how this vid card relates to the one your talking about, but this is an integrated low end card that works with EVE...
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.03.22 22:31:00 -
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don't do it! don't buy a laptop!
Unless you actually want to move it around, which, strangely enough 90% of the people I know who own laptops simply don't. They buy one cos they "look better" and are small factor.
Ok, if you want small factor, buy a damn shuttle! I've got one, and they're fantastic.
They're:
1) Cheaper than a laptop
2) Better spec'd than a lap top in every component
3) Cheaper to fix WHEN they go wrong. (and laptops do go wrong, ooooh so often)
So you just really don't want a craptop, ok?
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
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Micia
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Posted - 2006.03.22 22:38:00 -
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For what it's worth, I have a Sony Vaio with a "Mobile Intel 915GM Express Chipset".
I've no idea how that racks up in the laptop world, but it plays EVE just fine.
Still, it's not as detailed graphics as the desktop. 
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.03.22 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Sensor Error on 22/03/2006 22:43:27
Originally by: The Enslaver
I just got a laptop which is uber, for what I consider an incredible price.
Acer Aspire 5672 WLMI
15.4" Widescreen TFT
X1400 512MB Graphics
2GB DDR2
Dual Core 1.66ghz Intel Core Duo
120gb HDD
Built in webcam (comes with some very entertaining face tracking software)
Slot loading dual layer DVD.. Which can, to quote various reviewers, 'write to almost anything flat and round'
Gigabit Ethernet/BlueTooth/Wireless a/b/g etc... Memory card readers et al
etc etc...
Cost? Only ú1100, or US$1090 / AU$2500 Only catch, which sort of explains the lower price in the US, is that it has lower specs (slightly less video memory and only 1gb DDR2)
UK/Technoworld Link
USA/Electro Discounts
erm, 1100GBP != US$1090, more like $1900
edit: just the saw the price wasn't a conversion but a price for a site. Only thing I can think of is that it's not the same model, and 1gb of ram sure as hell won't make ú300-400 difference...
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
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Now run along and play with your dolls...
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Alex Krause
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Posted - 2006.03.22 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sensor Error
don't do it! don't buy a laptop!
Unless you actually want to move it around, which, strangely enough 90% of the people I know who own laptops simply don't. They buy one cos they "look better" and are small factor.
Ok, if you want small factor, buy a damn shuttle! I've got one, and they're fantastic.
They're:
1) Cheaper than a laptop
2) Better spec'd than a lap top in every component
3) Cheaper to fix WHEN they go wrong. (and laptops do go wrong, ooooh so often)
So you just really don't want a craptop, ok?
Don;t listen to this guy.
It's not all about price in life. I' on my 3rd laptop since I started playing Eve three years ago and all 3 can run multiple clients supurbly.
Just don't be cheap when/if you buy one.
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:12:00 -
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but WHY. I don't get it.
Yes, a ú1000-1500 laptop will run 3 eves, fine.
BUT. a ú700 shuttle pc will:
have a larger monitor, bigger + faster hd, will cost less to repair, and will run 5 eves.
I'm not against being cheap, but if you're going to buy a laptop, do it for the right reason!
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
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Now run along and play with your dolls...
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sensor Error
erm, 1100GBP != US$1090, more like $1900
edit: just the saw the price wasn't a conversion but a price for a site. Only thing I can think of is that it's not the same model, and 1gb of ram sure as hell won't make ú300-400 difference...
You also forget that there are different tax systems in the two countries involved. So...
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: Sensor Error
erm, 1100GBP != US$1090, more like $1900
edit: just the saw the price wasn't a conversion but a price for a site. Only thing I can think of is that it's not the same model, and 1gb of ram sure as hell won't make ú300-400 difference...
You also forget that there are different tax systems in the two countries involved. So...
would that really make ú300-400 difference? the uk tax on that laptop will be 17.5, so base price is ú936 odd which is ~ $1700 last time I checked. Thats still a hooooge difference
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
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Now run along and play with your dolls...
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vanBuskirk
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:56:00 -
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Enslaver, I agree about Acer - a grossly underestimated company.
I have a Ferrari 3200 (slightly over a year old, prehistoric in computer terms) and it runs EVE fine. In fact, in a pinch it can run 2 clients, although one of them slows to a crawl. Its graphics are Radeon 9600.
If I was buying one now, my fave would be the Travelmate 8204 (not sure about that number) which runs 1 gig RAM, X700 Radeon, dual-layer DVD writer and a dual-core Pentium Mobile chip - along with Bluetooth and built-in 54 meg WiFi, all on a 15.4" 1680x1050 display.
The only trouble is that this machine is nearly ú2000. But it's future-proof - at least for a couple of years.
No, I don't work for Acer.
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Genji Nagi
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:50:00 -
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ok ive searched around and found a decent notebook but i looked at the required specs for eve and it has ATI Radeon 7200 as the minimum, the video card im getting is 256MB ATI MOBILITYÖ RADEON« X1400 HyperMemory, there isnt a comparison at the ati website so hopefully someone here know if this card can handle eve?
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