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Lucile Strangelove	Posted - 2006.03.22 21:30:00 - [1] Hey folks, my nephews have a computer that's a little on the aging side. I need a recommendation for a video card that'll work in a 4x AGP slot AND run Eve (and preferably also City of Heroes :-D ), can anyone recommend anything?
Akhilesh Kamadev	Posted - 2006.03.22 21:34:00 - [2] Edited by: Akhilesh Kamadev on 22/03/2006 21:34:32 Geforce4 Ti 4200. I used one for ages, even does dual monitor widescreen support in Eve with no fiddling. CoH ran smoothly as does eve in windowed 1280960 standard. after edit* And full screen of course at 1280*1024.
Lucile Strangelove	Posted - 2006.03.22 21:38:00 - [3] I see the specs on that card are for an 8x AGP port, will it scale down for a 4x AGP slot?
Akhilesh Kamadev	Posted - 2006.03.22 21:42:00 - [4] Yes, only reason i mentioned it is that it ran on 4x board.
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.03.22 21:44:00 - [5] most agp 8x cards will also run fine on ap x4 "We brake for nobody"
Emmerich Steiner	Posted - 2006.03.22 21:55:00 - [6] Edited by: Emmerich Steiner on 22/03/2006 21:55:29 AFAIK The only limiting factor of an AGP card in an AGP port is the voltage... Some motherboards wont give enough in-line juice to a newer card. I believe the ATI X800 AGP needs v3.3 and alot of older mobos can only push up to 1.6v
Alexis DeTocqueville	Posted - 2006.03.22 21:58:00 - [7] 8x cards are backwards compatible with 4x.
Reevus	Posted - 2006.03.22 22:46:00 - [8] I run a GeForce 5500 just fine.
Cypherous	Posted - 2006.03.22 22:54:00 - [9] I used to use a GeForce FX5200 to play eve and it worked fine. O RLY?! --Jorauk Way cooler than Jorauk - Cortes
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.03.22 22:57:00 - [10] Originally by: Lucile Strangelove Hey folks, my nephews have a computer that's a little on the aging side. I need a recommendation for a video card that'll work in a 4x AGP slot AND run Eve (and preferably also City of Heroes :-D ), can anyone recommend anything? I ran Eve for quite some time with an AGP 4x board and an ATI 9500 Pro. 9500 XT would work fine too. Lifewire> 8000 m/s, even battleships can do this
Shiner BockBeer	Posted - 2006.03.22 23:04:00 - [11] Edited by: Shiner BockBeer on 22/03/2006 23:04:18 Any AGP card will run in any AGP slot as long as it physically fits and the slot supplies enough power. It just won't run at its full capability if its an 8X in a 4X slot.
Suze'Rain	Posted - 2006.03.22 23:26:00 - [12] I used to run my old PC with an Asus AGP Pro 4x with a (then) top-end Quadra card for 3d modelling and rendering. When that graphics card eventually started having troubles, I switched to an Asus AGP8x Nividia Geforce 6600 board. it was bottlenecked in the agp slot, but ran like a dream anyway, with a secondary molex power supply to it. lasted till I replaced my motherboard and chip and went for a SLI rig instead. so, go for the best AGP8x board you can find within your budget, and you'll get the most out of it. I'd reccommend those Asus 6600 series boards as being cheap and reliable.
Rimme Ettakar	Posted - 2006.03.22 23:26:00 - [13] For the new video card, RE uses a GeForce 6600 AGP (because he wanted the TV out). He reckons a GeForce 6200 AGP ought to work well too. Previously this machine was running a 4200. RE
lasarith	Posted - 2006.03.22 23:30:00 - [14] Edited by: lasarith on 22/03/2006 23:30:26 any 8x AGP will work on the older 4x AGP slots- im runing even on (old pci 33mhz geforce 440 t&l )
Deliz Seemack	Posted - 2006.03.22 23:36:00 - [15] GeForce Ti 500 :) That's what I've been using for the past 4 years I think and it still holds pretty well. -He conquers who endures. -Never underestimate game companies' greed.
SpaceDrake Storyteller	Posted - 2006.03.22 23:37:00 - [16] I'm running a damned GeForce 6800 GT on a four-speed AGP. Works like a charm, the only problem I have is with improper ventilation in my current case. -------------- What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward? Player of the character "Andre Ricard".
Emmerich Steiner	Posted - 2006.03.22 23:41:00 - [17] Originally by: Rimme Ettakar For the new video card, RE uses a GeForce 6600 AGP (because he wanted the TV out). He reckons a GeForce 6200 AGP ought to work well too. Previously this machine was running a 4200. RE I'd be wary of a 6200, I have a media machine that has an integrated 6200 (supposed to be the same as an external performance wise) and it chunks pretty bad.
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:53:00 - [18] Originally by: Emmerich Steiner Originally by: Rimme Ettakar For the new video card, RE uses a GeForce 6600 AGP (because he wanted the TV out). He reckons a GeForce 6200 AGP ought to work well too. Previously this machine was running a 4200. RE I'd be wary of a 6200, I have a media machine that has an integrated 6200 (supposed to be the same as an external performance wise) and it chunks pretty bad. low-tier GFX cards are always sucky (ati 9250, GF 4 5200, GF fx 6200 and the like heh) ---------------- Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
Sandler	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:59:00 - [19] 1. ATI 9600XT (256MB) is a cheap and reliable card that works perfectly in EVE (with settings set to MED-LOW). 2. ATI 9800 PRO (128MB) is much better but harder to find 3. GEFORCE 6600 AGP is probably the best of the bunch and most expensive If you can find a used 9800, that would be my pick.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:04:00 - [20] Originally by: Sandler 1. ATI 9600XT (256MB) is a cheap and reliable card that works perfectly in EVE (with settings set to MED-LOW). 2. ATI 9800 PRO (128MB) is much better but harder to find 3. GEFORCE 6600 AGP is probably the best of the bunch and most expensive If you can find a used 9800, that would be my pick. The 6600 non-GT is quite a bit slower than the 9800 Pro. Now the 6600 GT, thats a beast [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Sandler	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:18:00 - [21] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Sandler 1. ATI 9600XT (256MB) is a cheap and reliable card that works perfectly in EVE (with settings set to MED-LOW). 2. ATI 9800 PRO (128MB) is much better but harder to find 3. GEFORCE 6600 AGP is probably the best of the bunch and most expensive If you can find a used 9800, that would be my pick. The 6600 non-GT is quite a bit slower than the 9800 Pro. Now the 6600 GT, thats a beast You are correct, I did mean to say 6600 GT (256MB). The normal 6600 edition does not compare. Also, GeFORCE 6800 GS (256MB) is a costly option but might extend the life of your rig much longer.
Kayl Breinhar	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:20:00 - [22] The highest card that will run in an AGP 4x slot that's currently available is the 7800GS. That's about the end-of-the-line in AGP performance for quite some time. Personally, though - I'd be looking into upgrading. So - Top of the line - 7800GS (though you'll need at least a 3500+ or 3.2Ghz P4 to even THINK of feeding it enough to make the purchase worthwhile) Middle of the road - Non-ultra 6800 (GT or newer 6800GS if you can swing it - the 6800GS comes in PCIe and AGP trim, be sure to get the right one), 256MB frame buffer minimum (some non-ultra 6800s came with 128MB) Bottom of the pack - GF6200s and GF5500s, 256MB frame buffer minimum - the new 7xxx series "low-end" part is far too expensive to be worthwhile. ATI's offerings in AGP aren't exactly stellar choices at this point - the X850 Platinum Edition was the highest you could go, and the double-slot cooling solution is not only noisy, but the chip doesn't support Shader Model 3.0. The 7800GS, as I said, is the highest you're going to see AGP graphics go (the community was stunned enough when nVidia announced an AGP 7800 part), but by your own admission, the computer's long in the tooth (AGP 4x means possibly back to a T-Bred Athlon), and spending 179-279 bucks on a new graphics card might just be better invested in a new motherboard, chip, and graphics card. I'd wait for Intel's and AMD's newest offerings, though (Conroe and Socket M2 Dual-Core Athlons), since EVE evidently now takes advantage of dual-core chips. My end advice would be to go with the best low-end card you can fit/afford, and save up money for a new box, even if you skimp on a few things for it when it finally comes out.
Eternal Fury	Posted - 2006.03.23 04:19:00 - [23] The GeForce 4 line will. the TI 4200/4400/4600 and they'll do it fairly well.. though CoH will bog it down. Especially CoV.. I don't konw if an nVidia 6600 would work in an 4x AGP slot. I would assume it would. And that would give you about the best bang/buck for a new card. I'd eMail nVidia and ask if the 6600GT series would work. They're great little cards at a decent price. - - "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." H.L. Mencken.
Commander Kahn'Alzaor	Posted - 2006.03.23 04:28:00 - [24] I run a ATI 9250. the only problems im having is **ty AA. all edges are jaggard but FPS is a playable 30. now i need more RAM and a new CPU. PS anyone know if DDR400 ECC chips can run in normal DDR-400 DIMM's? or is it mobo specifc? If you cant amaze them with brilliance , baffel them with bull**!
Maxlis	Posted - 2006.03.23 04:51:00 - [25] I've ran EvE not long ago (Pre RmR) on a GeForce 2 MX 400. Anything will work pretty much.
Kayl Breinhar	Posted - 2006.03.23 06:24:00 - [26] Originally by: Commander Kahn'Alzaor PS anyone know if DDR400 ECC chips can run in normal DDR-400 DIMM's? or is it mobo specifc? Don't mix ECC and non-ECC, and don't put ECC on a board that isn't spec'ed for it. Short answer to your question would be - don't try. It's not motherboard-specific, it's chipset-specific. ECC is optimized for servers and ergo, server-class motherboards. It MIGHT work, but it just as easily might very well not.
Adelai Niska	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:13:00 - [27] A friend just had all his computer and network gear (he runs a small hosting business) fried by a lightning bolt. He's now playing on a 486 laptop with a 2mb integrated AGP video card.
Commander Kahn'Alzaor	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:17:00 - [28] Originally by: Adelai Niska A friend just had all his computer and network gear (he runs a small hosting business) fried by a lightning bolt. He's now playing on a 486 laptop with a 2mb integrated AGP video card. and i though my rig was bad.... cheers for the tips btw! If you cant amaze them with brilliance , baffel them with bull****!
Karol Kei	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:26:00 - [29] I am running Eve on non pro Ati 9700. 1600x1200 with no problems with no anti-aliasing, in a AGP 4x slot.
Galen DreVahn	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:44:00 - [30] Still playing on a Ti 4400 from Leadtek, can't get myself to build a new computer yet.

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