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Vadir Inferno
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:45:00 -
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i dont have time read everyones replies but basically
if its that big a deal use a cargo expander and dont forget if your using missiles limos types store more ammo, and if u add up 5 x 33 thats 165 missiles stored in the launchers but yeah go flame go :)
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Blood Redd
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:53:00 -
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You can just chuck in a medium container, Gives you an extra 65m3.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:58:00 -
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apoc is physically bigger than the tempest.
more space more cargo.
dont spout 'balance' either thats just silly.
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K Shara
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:14:00 -
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it has a larger capacity so that it can be used a mining ship .
fair .... not really, but then amarr needs seveer gimping anyway.
slave trading scum vermin that they are
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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:20:00 -
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I dont find cargo space in BS a problem at all really, but then I am never away from an ammo supply for long periods of time..
Although I can how it works, Amarr ships have large holds because they are for miners.
Proving natural selection and Charles Darwin wrong since 1981.
The Kamikaze pilot
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Recluse XXX
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Eyeshadow
I do agree that the Apoc bay seems a bit big, but then it is primarily an NPCing ship and needs room for loot 
I know you ment to say mining and that it need room for roids...but I forgive you your errors my son.
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We will not give up until we have penetrated the rear entrance to Stain, we hope this will hurt SA to the point they start to cry.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Ra on 23/03/2006 12:39:51
Originally by: LWMaverick
Edited by: LWMaverick on 23/03/2006 08:57:11
Man.. At least find something relative important to complaing about.
Oh well..
Tempest.. well, in reality it has as much as the apoc, but due the amount of backup duct tape, cargobay is reduced to 600m3
/Mav
ACtually it is important and was gonna be the next topic of my whine thread 
600m3 is ****ty, 1) we need to carry a wide range of ammo types like ravens 2) our ammmo takes alot of space 3) our guns use a F*** load of esp dual 425
You dont need to increase cargo size, just lower the cargo space the ammo use
ps
Blasterthron pilots you can fit many more cap 800s then we do
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: K Shara
it has a larger capacity so that it can be used a mining ship .
fair .... not really, but then amarr needs seveer gimping anyway.
slave trading scum vermin that they are
I'm going to shave your head in RL
Fear me! 
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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: K Shara
it has a larger capacity so that it can be used a mining ship .
fair .... not really, but then amarr needs seveer gimping anyway.
slave trading scum vermin that they are
I'm going to shave your head in RL
Fear me!
I would have been scared a few months back.. but my dreadlocks are now all in a plastic bag rotting under the sink ;)
Proving natural selection and Charles Darwin wrong since 1981.
The Kamikaze pilot
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velocoraptor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:52:00 -
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Double all BS's cargo holds.
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Forsch
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra
1) we need to carry a wide range of ammo types like ravens
Funny how most other Minmatars claim it's only really practical to use one type of ammo because of range and dmg. 
But good to see that varying dmg types is not as insignificant of an advantage as some make it seem to be.
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: velocoraptor
Double all BS's cargo holds.
Yeah that would be great wouldnt it ?.. ravens with 50x 800 cap boosters..
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Necroth
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Posted - 2006.03.23 13:04:00 -
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anyway, 450m3 for destroyers those are small...
and only 600+ m3 for BSs is a bit illogical
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velocoraptor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: velocoraptor
Double all BS's cargo holds.
Yeah that would be great wouldnt it ?.. ravens with 50x 800 cap boosters..
5o sounds too much, but after ammo etc, I suppose it would be less, but anyway it IS illogical now compared with smaller ship cleasses and I stand by my initial statement.
Double all BS's cargo holds ;-)
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Garia666
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Posted - 2006.03.23 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Garia666 on 23/03/2006 13:13:08
ohboy i took teh race which has less cargo hold..
why wasent i born an amarrian..
Why isnt life fair and arrent we equal
ffs man put your energy in the game
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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2006.03.23 13:25:00 -
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Yea were supposed to have various ammo types and certainly changing between EMP/PP/Fusion makes a significant difference, but there is not space for this. Especially if you mix in our so-called "secondary" weapon. Let alone any cap charges.
Well we know why Amarr's cargo hold is so big, thats why we shoot them.
It all points to Minmatar being skirmishers and not designed for knock-down-drag-outs.
Its fine being the size it is. But you have to ask, since this is a tradeoff the Minmatar made, what did they get in return? Speed, signature?
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NateX
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Posted - 2006.03.23 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: chillz
We have a drone bay, we have a cargo bay, we should also have an ammo bay (magazine).
/signed
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smallgreenblur
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Posted - 2006.03.23 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Laythun
apoc is physically bigger than the tempest.
more space more cargo.
dont spout 'balance' either thats just silly.
Yeah i hate people that try and balance the game too, it makes it so unfair on the people flying the FOTM...
I'd like to see more cargo space on my tempy having read this thread, didn't know the other races had an advantage there too :p When i went for the 'underdog' race 3 years ago I didn't think it really meant that... whoops...
sgb
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Apollo Balthar
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: smallgreenblur
Originally by: Laythun
apoc is physically bigger than the tempest.
more space more cargo.
dont spout 'balance' either thats just silly.
I'd like to see more cargo space on my tempy having read this thread, didn't know the other races had an advantage there too :p
sgb
Yeah, I was very surprised when i noticed this too (I was actually looking at the specs. of the Apoc cause I concider training for one . I specificly made this thread because i kinda hope the following dev responce:"Oopsie, we kinda missed that, we will punch in the numbers and all will be fixed after next downtime".....
Ah well, one can dream
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danneh
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: K Shara
it has a larger capacity so that it can be used a mining ship .
fair .... not really, but then amarr needs seveer gimping anyway.
slave trading scum vermin that they are
Once Deja has finished shaving your head, i will wash it with acid!
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Zembla
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Apollo Balthar
Also, most important cases are being looked at and/or whined about plenty. Sure the 1400's and 800 mm's could use a look etc. This hasn't been mentioned a long time and it seemed very unfair.
To the Gallente Pilot, I specificly added I don't know about Gallente ammo, so you might be completely right.. that still doesn't make my point invalid though.
To the Amarr pilot, there is a roleplay forum, take your trolling there tyvm.
So, to sum it all up. You're right, and they're wrong?
Sry to say, but there are weapon types and ship classes that need more looking into and earlier looking into than the Tempest and it's projectile weapons.
BTW, it needs it's 675 for mining. And, about ammo, the 75m¦ you're asking for, is probably about the ammt of space you'd leave unfilled with ammo because you want to be able to take that Arbalest Cruise Launcher with you when you find it instead of having to leave it behind...
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Apollo Balthar
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Posted - 2006.03.23 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Apollo Balthar on 23/03/2006 17:59:42
Originally by: Zembla
Originally by: Apollo Balthar
Also, most important cases are being looked at and/or whined about plenty. Sure the 1400's and 800 mm's could use a look etc. This hasn't been mentioned a long time and it seemed very unfair.
To the Gallente Pilot, I specificly added I don't know about Gallente ammo, so you might be completely right.. that still doesn't make my point invalid though.
To the Amarr pilot, there is a roleplay forum, take your trolling there tyvm.
So, to sum it all up. You're right, and they're wrong?
now where the hell did I say that ?
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Sry to say, but there are weapon types and ship classes that need more looking into and earlier looking into than the Tempest and it's projectile weapons.
And where in my post did I suggest it is any different?
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BTW, it needs it's 675 for mining. And, about ammo, the 75m¦ you're asking for, is probably about the ammt of space you'd leave unfilled with ammo because you want to be able to take that Arbalest Cruise Launcher with you when you find it instead of having to leave it behind...
WTH is with ppl that concider the importance of the Apoc as a mining ship greater then the use of the Tempest as a hunting ship? So, the Apoc needs that 75m3 to mine better, great, let me get some extra cargo for NPC'ing? Really, try validate that point and we have an argument, now you did nothing more then waste perfectly fine bandwith, not to mention my boss'es time... oh wait....
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