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Dimitrix Inkura
Temp Tax Haven
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Posted - 2014.01.17 00:07:00 -
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Could someone please provide me a fit for soloing a C3 sleeper site in a loki, as that is what I am currently training my skills towards. I found this: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/62866-Loki-armor-solo-c2-c3-Setup.html#loadout But it is a year and a half old. Also, is there anyone who has done lots of C3 sites in a T3 who could give me some advice and help me out to get ready to move into Wormholes when I can fly a Loki well in 50-60 days? Buddy Invite Program: 21 Day Trial + 450m ISK + Lifelong Advice: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3793109#post3793109 |
Tyrant Scorn
10
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Posted - 2014.01.17 00:24:00 -
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Dimitrix Inkura wrote:Could someone please provide me a fit for soloing a C3 sleeper site in a loki, as that is what I am currently training my skills towards. I found this: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/62866-Loki-armor-solo-c2-c3-Setup.html#loadoutBut it is a year and a half old. Also, is there anyone who has done lots of C3 sites in a T3 who could give me some advice and help me out to get ready to move into Wormholes when I can fly a Loki well in 50-60 days?
I am not sure this is a good idea. Loki's suffer from tracking issues in PvE because the sleepers don't attack at 1 specific range. I could be talking out of my @ss but I wouldn't try it myself. ...
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Icarus Able
Revenant Tactical
320
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:28:00 -
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That thing has nowhere near enough tank for C3s. Just play in Eft you need 500 dps tank for c3 anoms.
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Dimitrix Inkura
Temp Tax Haven
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:41:00 -
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Icarus Able wrote:That thing has nowhere near enough tank for C3s. Just play in Eft you need 500 dps tank for c3 anoms.
Just the loki or all T3s? What about a Legion? Buddy Invite Program: 21 Day Trial + 450m ISK + Lifelong Advice: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3793109#post3793109 |
Icarus Able
Revenant Tactical
320
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:54:00 -
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Dimitrix Inkura wrote:Icarus Able wrote:That thing has nowhere near enough tank for C3s. Just play in Eft you need 500 dps tank for c3 anoms.
Just the loki or all T3s? What about a Legion?
Just that loki fit you linked on battleclinic. All the t3s can solo C3s butnot that fit. |
UkaIS
Lords of Entropy V.e.G.A.
12
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Posted - 2014.01.17 12:18:00 -
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Here are two links to a wormholers blog regarding soloing C3 sites with T3 cruisers. The first link is specifically for the Legion and the second covers the other three T3s. Just read the whole thing, its also a really good guide on how to run the sites.
C3 Solo Legion
C3 Solo T3s |
TXG SYNC
Outer Ring Sleeper Collective Illusion of Solitude
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:39:00 -
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UkaIS wrote: Here are two links to a wormholers blog regarding soloing C3 sites with T3 cruisers..
It's always incredibly gratifying to see my work used. In this case, for the exact reason I wrote it up in the first place: as a kind of FAQ for this forum!
Thanks for the links. I love feedback. |
El Dorito Boirelle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.01.19 21:04:00 -
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TXG SYNC wrote:UkaIS wrote: Here are two links to a wormholers blog regarding soloing C3 sites with T3 cruisers.. It's always incredibly gratifying to see my work used. In this case, for the exact reason I wrote it up in the first place: as a kind of FAQ for this forum! Thanks for the links. I love feedback. The only thing I really dislike about some of the fits is the inability (or lack of emphasis) fitting an Expanded Probe Launcher. If your ship's fit doesn't have one, for pity's sake have an alt orbiting a wormhole or POS nearby with an expanded launcher and combat probes out. Combat Probes a great tool to extend your vision beyond D-scan range; ruling out the known signatures at the start of the site and scanning for new ship signatures in the system gives you the time to get out of the site and either run away or re-ship for PvP. Combat probes have saved me from gank attempts twice. Since I've blinged out my Legion a bit, that's well over a billion ISK I haven't had to earn back.
I only have 1 char, and want to solo in an armor loki.
how hard will it be only using 4 guns instead of 5? (so i can use a probe launcher) |
Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi Unmentionables
2937
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Posted - 2014.01.19 21:30:00 -
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you really want to shield tank a loki for pve. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |
Freddie Merrcury
Dysfunctional Gunbunniez Collision.
28
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Posted - 2014.01.20 11:15:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:you really want to shield tank a loki for pve. or better yet, a Tengu
For the cost of a Loki, a Faction fit Drake would probably give better performance I been kicked out of better homes than this. |
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
75
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Posted - 2014.01.21 18:04:00 -
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If you're going to drag drake and tengu into it then I will say Golem. Based on spawn range and cruisers approaching you: the painter bonus shines like no other. Tanking isn't an issue w/ the bastion module. With decent skills you can land the golem, push the bastion button and be cleaned up and away in a fraction of the time it would take a drake/tengu/loki to accomplish the same. Hull price/time spent in site (time at risk) make the golem a bargain for this type of work.
The other 3 marauders aren't so good for solo C3. Use the right tool for the job. |
TXG SYNC
Outer Ring Sleeper Collective Illusion of Solitude
29
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:43:00 -
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El Dorito Boirelle wrote:how hard will it be only using 4 guns instead of 5? (so i can use a probe launcher)
I like dreaming up crazy fits and trying them out in various scenarios either on Sisi or (if it's cheap enough) live. From a PvE NOS-based L4 mission Armageddon (works fine, but is a bit slower than I like) to a C3 solo drone-based Legion (it is, unfortunately, pretty much exactly as bad as everyone thinks it is; needs some way to get 75m3 bandwidth!!!), I've toyed with a bunch of fits.
I could never make a Loki with an Emergent Locus Analyzer and an armor tank work. Just look at the slot layouts into which you are forced; a shield Loki will substantially out-damage an armor Loki in almost every circumstance. The only subsystem that seems to give you any real reason to use armor is the Immobility Drivers subsystem because of the amazing webbing range... but Immobility and Emergent are two competing subs that cannot be equipped simultaneously.
I'm going to end up suggesting the original fit on my web site: a shield autocannon Loki. There are alternatives, but this has the benefit of being very easy to drive with sufficient range, damage, speed, and tank for C3 work. The armor/immobility Loki is also workable, but you make a number of sacrifices to make it happen... among them, the expanded launcher and combat probes. Which make it fine for people with alts, but for the solo artist trying to run anomalies without a scout, I consider the lack of combat probes a risk I would not be willing to take. Just yesterday I caught someone trying to triangulate my Legion's position; if it weren't for my combat probes, his combat probes dragged far off the edge of the system waiting to triangulate and then single-cycle-scan me would have gone unnoticed...
If you were that guy, the name of my Legion was "StuckNeedExit!" :-)
[Loki, C3 Shield]
Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II
Large Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 10MN Afterburner II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M Expanded Probe Launcher I, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Hornet EC-300 x5 Warrior II x5 |
TXG SYNC
Outer Ring Sleeper Collective Illusion of Solitude
29
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Posted - 2014.01.22 03:05:00 -
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Freddie Merrcury wrote:For the cost of a Loki, a Faction fit Drake would probably give better performance
I would absolutely LOVE to see a Drake or Navy Drake that: * Costs less than 330M ISK, * Fits an Expanded Probe Launcher (for combat probes), * Does around 500DPS with all 5s (including drones, and if range is limited an afterburner or MWD is OK), * Can tank 700+DPS (passive tanked) or 500+ DPS (active tanked, at least 5 minutes of runtime with all 5s).
If you have such a fit, please share it! I and my readers are really, really interested and would use it! |
Xequecal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
158
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Posted - 2014.01.22 17:26:00 -
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Armor tank is much better than shield tank on a C3 Loki. I've posted it in like a dozen threads but EM/Therm are the only resists that matter when you're soloing C3s in a cruiser, because all the exp/kin damage comes from missiles which you will speed tank down to nothing if you're moving at all and will still sig tank down to like 40% even if you're webbed to a standstil.
You don't even need hardeners if you armor tank your Loki due to Minmatar racial resists on top of base armor EM/Therm resists. MARII/Ancillary MAR and four Gyrostabs is more than enough tank. |
Maldam
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.01.23 02:40:00 -
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TXG SYNC wrote:UkaIS wrote: Here are two links to a wormholers blog regarding soloing C3 sites with T3 cruisers.. It's always incredibly gratifying to see my work used. In this case, for the exact reason I wrote it up in the first place: as a kind of FAQ for this forum! Thanks for the links. I love feedback. The only thing I really dislike about some of the fits is the inability (or lack of emphasis) fitting an Expanded Probe Launcher. If your ship's fit doesn't have one, for pity's sake have an alt orbiting a wormhole or POS nearby with an expanded launcher and combat probes out. Combat Probes a great tool to extend your vision beyond D-scan range; ruling out the known signatures at the start of the site and scanning for new ship signatures in the system gives you the time to get out of the site and either run away or re-ship for PvP. Combat probes have saved me from gank attempts twice. Since I've blinged out my Legion a bit, that's well over a billion ISK I haven't had to earn back.
I, and my mains, greatly appreciate people like you, who contribute to the game in such ways.
I also liked the guy who linked your site.
But generally, a like to all who take their time and knowledge and write it up and post it. |
Ispai Ponue
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2014.01.23 19:46:00 -
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TXG SYNC wrote:
[Loki, C3 Shield]
Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II
Large Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 10MN Afterburner II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M Expanded Probe Launcher I, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Hornet EC-300 x5 Warrior II x5
I gave this a toss in EFT and with all 5 it takes too much CPU. Is there a plugin necessary?
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Jill Chastot
Oath of the Forsaken
177
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:39:00 -
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Take your Loki to C5-C6 Cap escelations. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=298596&find=unreadOATHS wants you. Come to the WH |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
783
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Posted - 2014.01.24 00:01:00 -
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I use an active tanked Eos. Works like a champ. No trolling please |
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