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Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.03.24 17:45:00 -
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Clearly, Rogues pose such a threat to CAIN and the Caldari way of life that you all have to join together to form a huge blob in order to defend yourselves. From the sidelines, all this hot air and bandwagon-jumping just looks like fear and weakness.
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Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.03.24 18:34:00 -
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It does appear like they have very little confidence in CAIN's abilities.
But then again, with CAIN officers looking for hired help - it would also seem that CAIN does not believe much in them either...
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Svetlana Scarlet
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Posted - 2006.03.24 18:53:00 -
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You will find it very hard to convince most sane people that having allies is a weakness. -- LCDR Svetlana Scarlet Deputy Quartermaster Captain, CNS Redball Express Caldari Independent Navy Reserve |

Tharrn
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Posted - 2006.03.24 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Wanoah Clearly, Rogues pose such a threat to CAIN and the Caldari way of life that you all have to join together to form a huge blob in order to defend yourselves. From the sidelines, all this hot air and bandwagon-jumping just looks like fear and weakness.
You as an alliance have no qualms to have wars with much smaller enemies either - and rightfully so. So, your point being?
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Louis DelaBlanche
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Posted - 2006.03.24 21:11:00 -
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im interested in seeing how this one pans out. The rogues have recently been active on these forums & CAIN (i think thats the anagram used) pilots have been for as long as I have. I have no vested interest in the result of this war though so ill simply say good luck & happy hunting to both sides. May you both destroy that which needs destroying & pod those who need podding. _______________________________________________ I am what I am & more besides that which makes me me |

Danno
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Posted - 2006.03.24 22:07:00 -
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let me act as a translation service to anyone who cant see right through the cain/caldari response
"Let blob 'em"
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Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.03.24 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sarchez It does appear like they have very little confidence in CAIN's abilities.
But then again, with CAIN officers looking for hired help - it would also seem that CAIN does not believe much in them either...
That business is my own, not corporate, business.
For someone who is so hypercritical, you should check dates. ---
Karl Mattar LT-CMDR, CAIN
Mattar Munitions LLC - Ammo for all your needs. Coming soon to a Gallente ship near you! |

Davion Vrynn
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Posted - 2006.03.24 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Danno let me act as a translation service to anyone who cant see right through the cain/caldari response
"Let blob 'em"
This gripe always has confused me. In times of war, one should use every advantage available, and unless I am mistaken (and I'm fairly sure I'm not) possession of greater numbers is an advantage.
If you have more people, why only use some? ------------------------------
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Derrys
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Posted - 2006.03.25 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: So'Kar My only regret right now is that I didn't inform Sarchez in time that I will be busy couple days elsewhere, but don't think that I will miss much as I doubt that imaginary fleet will appear any more real than it did before.
You might want to ask your buddy Sarchez about that when you get back; seems to me there's the smoking wreckage of a T2-fitted Tempest that says otherwise.
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Pierre Dumonte
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Posted - 2006.03.25 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Pierre Dumonte on 25/03/2006 17:45:46 "No captain can go wrong if he puts his ship alongside that of his enemy" - Nelson
Fight and Die with Honour, the halls Valhalla await the vanquished
"You just broke the 11th commandment, you ****ed me off" |

Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.25 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: So'Kar My only regret right now is that I didn't inform Sarchez in time that I will be busy couple days elsewhere, but don't think that I will miss much as I doubt that imaginary fleet will appear any more real than it did before.
((Try having to pull yourself away from playing Oblivion. That game's too damn addictive. ))
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran  |

Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.03.26 02:50:00 -
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APEX Unlimited will be joining the fight against Rogues. _____________________________________
Need help in Caldari Space? Join channel CCDF to give or recieve it.
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Mokh'Tar
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Posted - 2006.03.26 06:01:00 -
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Whoa! I'd be careful in assisting CAIN in any way... You may risk being wardecced by Rogues without any warning!
Oh no! What shall we do?
Clearly CAINf has been too much of a pain in the arse for them so they wanted to get up close and personal with us at first given opportunity. Also, since they're suffering losses of their nice and shiny T2 fitted vessels, they wanted to bring some softer targets into this so they can feel all manly again.
Go Rogues! I'm awfully impressed by your inspiring ways to show the galaxy you are to be respected... *snicker*
No quarter will be given nor expected.
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Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.03.26 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mokh'Tar Whoa! I'd be careful in assisting CAIN in any way... You may risk being wardecced by Rogues without any warning!
CAIN Foreign Auxillary is clearly a wing off CAIN itself. Atleast now Concord won't interfer, when you attempt to bring them into the fray, by locking our pilots during combat. A pitifull tactic if there ever was one.
We did indeed leave you out of hostilities to begin with, but you chose your own path.
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2006.03.26 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Wanoah ...the Caldari way...
Come in peace, Caldari are many.
Come guns blazing, many turns one.
That's the Caldari way.
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Barriers - an EVE novel - Chapter #4 released |

Mokh'Tar
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Posted - 2006.03.26 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sarchez
Atleast now Concord won't interfer, when you attempt to bring them into the fray, by locking our pilots during combat. A pitifull tactic if there ever was one.
We did indeed leave you out of hostilities to begin with, but you chose your own path.
Surely seasoned pilots like yourself won't fall for that? Can't blame pilots for showing a healthy interest in the status quo of an ongoing battle.
Our path was chosen when we signed up. It's not something we choose at a whim. Did the Rogues really believe we'd merely sit and watch?
Good luck out there. You'll need it.
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Grifter Treysik
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Posted - 2006.03.26 23:37:00 -
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*Grifter chuckles while reading Sarchez's message*
Pitiful tactics? Are you upset because CAINf was doing a great job on recon, that you need to claim it "pitiful"?
We use the tools and allies we have available to us. You call it pitiful, we call it stradegy. There are several options to assist in war times, this was one.
I'm sorry you feel the need to bash our smart tactics.
More or less, you're just upset your not winning the war.
Cmdr Grifter Treysik CO of CAINf
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Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.03.27 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Sarchez on 27/03/2006 00:22:10 Your recon was expected and acceptable.
Your attemps to involve concord was not. There's nothing new or smart about it - and there is several other tactics that could be considered smart - the black hole one - for instant, but neither of them are found acceptable between pod-pilots.
Should you choose to continue that path - we'd have to re-evaluate if we should use same measures against you. A path we'll not be willingly taking.
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Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.03.27 00:23:00 -
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Either way, the war has expanded. Let's keep the smack to a minimum on all sides, and let our guns do the talking. ---
Karl Mattar LT-CMDR, CAIN
Mattar Munitions LLC - Ammo for all your needs. Coming soon to a Gallente ship near you! |

Van Cleef
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Posted - 2006.03.27 03:29:00 -
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The Rogues corporation is a well known Terrorist organization that prays on weaker corporations to force their agenda forward. Their recent incursions into Caldari Space to pratice their brand of terrorism is unacceptable.
CAIN combat pilots look forward to the chance to stop these terrorists inside our Borders. All CAIN and CAINf combat commands have prepared for this new attack into Caldari Space aimed at CAIN.
CAIN has always been a beacon of the Caldari People, and it is obvious why we are targeted by people who would harm the State.
The Caldari people are a proud and powerful people. The posts of encouragement and support show that when you are willing to stand the line between terrorists and peaceful citzens, you do not have to stand it alone.
Combat operations have already begun and blood as been spilt on both sides. We will aggressively target the Rogues during this new period of hostilies. It also makes us glad that while the Allied Caldari pilots combat this menance, they cannot practice their perverse acts of terrorism.
CAIN looks forward to this new round.
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Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.03.27 03:49:00 -
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In 24 hours,CONCORD sanctioned combat will begin against Rogues by APEX. I look forward to joining the fight with CAIN. _____________________________________
Need help in Caldari Space? Join channel CCDF to give or recieve it.
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Ladel Teravada
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Posted - 2006.03.27 10:30:00 -
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I will be happy to fly once again with you and yours Vendrin. You've proved valuable pilots to the State before and I have no doubts you will once again.
I'd like to thank all Caldari loyalists for their support, but at the same time make it clear that in my own opinion, in no way official, CAIN controls this war and does not call for military support of any kind. I say this to let everyone know that your political and popular support is enough to place you high in my esteem.
That said, any Caldari Corporations that decide that the Rogues menace will come at an end here and now are welcome to fly at my wing. Together we are strong.
I'd also like to give a bit of credit to Rogues. They have hid in starbases or fled at the sight of our Armadas, but in the end it is nothing to hold against them. The CAIN armada is strong and fearsome in it's might and the fact that they have several times stood and fought against it gives them honour.
Hail Caldari!
/Commander Ladel Teravada C.N.S. Forgotten |

Davion Vrynn
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Posted - 2006.03.27 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ladel Teravada I'd like to thank all Caldari loyalists for their support, but at the same time make it clear that in my own opinion, in no way official, CAIN controls this war and does not call for military support of any kind.
Oh, there's no disputing that. You just made it look like so much fun we couldn't resist joining in. 
In all seriousness though - We help because we believe in CAIN's cause and to return the favor for your help in the SERK war.
Operations Director, APEX Unlimited |

Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.03.28 15:18:00 -
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It appears that there are no more Rogues to fight. Only Sarchez and Danno have remained in the CAIN area of operations, and Sarchez won't leave station if he even catches a whiff of a CAIN pilot.
The only Rogue pilot that has come out repeatedly to fight the war has been Danno. He has perservered despite the destruction of several of his ships. Danno, I salute you. I regret that you lost those two ships to Concord actions. Bad luck there. It would have been far better to have lost them in a real fight. My only regret is that you have suffered these losses for a corporation that won't even fly at your wing.
If the Rogues intend to let this war dec expire, I really wish you'd just call it a defeat, cancel it, and go lick your wounds. Then we can all get back to business.
This has been a sorry excuse for a war. ---
Karl Mattar LT-CMDR, CAIN
Mattar Munitions LLC - Ammo for all your needs. Coming soon to a Gallente ship near you! |

Svetlana Scarlet
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:21:00 -
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Unlike LCDR Mattar, I can find nothing but contempt for the like of the Rogues. They have attempted to discredit CAIN at every turn, and when push comes to shove, they do not have the force to back up all their bluster. The Reserve's single largest loss in this war was due to a friendly fire incident that resulted in a misunderstanding with CONCORD, a mistake which resulted in a severe reprimand for the officer at fault. Meanwhile, the Rogues have suffered the loss of at least two battleships at CAIN hands, one in less than 30 seconds before the Rogue pilot was able to retreat back into the station he had been using for shelter -- most likely by bribing the dockmaster. Since those losses on Saturday and the further loss of a Brutix-class battlecruiser on Sunday, there has been nothing but fleeting contact between CAIN forces and the Rogues as they scatter to the winds in the face of our task forces.
With the introduction of CAINf and Apex into the battle, it seems unlikely that the Rogues will change their minds and attempt to return to the fray -- even if they can absorb the financial losses from the destruction of those ships and the array of Tech2 equipment onboard, I doubt their egos can handle the bruising they are taking at the hands of our so-called "imaginary" fleets. Perhaps next time they wish to try flexing their muscle in Caldari space they will remember what the results of their last two wars with us have been like, and find softer targets -- I am sure they will have no shortage of soft-bellied opponents in the Gallente Federation, although I would hope that even the poorly-organized Gallente forces could expel these poor excuses for "Minmatar freedom fighters" from their borders. Then again, their defeat two months ago under the same circumstances does not appear to have deterred them in the least.
As I have done before, I will encourage any corporation -- Caldari or otherwise -- not to give in to their incredibly pathetic extortion attempts in the future. CAIN has proven,yet again, that they have no stomach for a real fight, and if you stand up to them -- or seek help from those who are equipped to do so -- they will move on to easier victims. There may be pirates worth fearing out there -- but the Rogues are certainly not one of them. -- LCDR Svetlana Scarlet Deputy Quartermaster Captain, CNS Redball Express Caldari Independent Navy Reserve |

Danno
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Posted - 2006.03.29 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet Edited by: Svetlana Scarlet on 28/03/2006 21:43:20
With the introduction of CAINf and Apex into the battle, it seems unlikely that the Rogues will change their minds and attempt to return to the fray -- even if they can absorb the financial losses from the destruction of those ships and the array of Tech2 equipment onboard, I doubt their egos can handle the bruising they are taking at the hands of our so-called "imaginary" fleets. Perhaps next time they wish to try flexing their muscle in Caldari space they will remember what the results of their last two wars with us have been like, and find softer targets -- I am sure they will have no shortage of soft-bellied opponents in the Gallente Federation, although I would hope that even the poorly-organized Gallente forces could expel these poor excuses for "Minmatar freedom fighters" from their borders. Then again, their defeat two months ago under the same circumstances does not appear to have deterred them in the least.

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Darian Edalth
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Posted - 2006.03.29 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Danno
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet Edited by: Svetlana Scarlet on 28/03/2006 21:43:20
With the introduction of CAINf and Apex into the battle, it seems unlikely that the Rogues will change their minds and attempt to return to the fray -- even if they can absorb the financial losses from the destruction of those ships and the array of Tech2 equipment onboard, I doubt their egos can handle the bruising they are taking at the hands of our so-called "imaginary" fleets. Perhaps next time they wish to try flexing their muscle in Caldari space they will remember what the results of their last two wars with us have been like, and find softer targets -- I am sure they will have no shortage of soft-bellied opponents in the Gallente Federation, although I would hope that even the poorly-organized Gallente forces could expel these poor excuses for "Minmatar freedom fighters" from their borders. Then again, their defeat two months ago under the same circumstances does not appear to have deterred them in the least.

Such skill with words, such detail, such storytelling, such wonder! Truly he is as a god who wrote such a well thought our reply.
- Darian Edalth.
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Plasticman
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Posted - 2006.03.29 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Darian Edalth
Such skill with words, such detail, such storytelling, such wonder! Truly he is as a god who penned such a well thought out reply.
- Darian Edalth.
CAIN know why he smiles. No story telling is needed our point was made to CAIN. |

Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.03.29 14:58:00 -
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Plasticman! You do exist!
Are you still a Rogue? We haven't seen you yet on the field of battle, so there was some speculation.
How's life far far away out there in 0.0? ---
Karl Mattar Commander, CAIN
Mattar Munitions LLC - Ammo for all your needs. Coming soon to a Gallente ship near you! |

Gorion Wassenar
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Posted - 2006.03.29 15:38:00 -
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So let me get this straight, The rouges are mad because CAIN/f and Apex are not fighting fair? Thats good coming from ones who gank haulers ans claim vast combat exploits. As for the "blobage", I think thats more indicative of biting off more then you can chew. ------------------
CEO of TKI Public Channel: TKI-Net http://s14.invisionfree.com/Tsurokigaarai/index.php |
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