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Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.03.23 23:00:00 -
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2006.03.23 22:58
Rogues has declared war on Caldari Independent Navy Reserve.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
You talk the talk, now walk the walk.
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Strikeclone
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Posted - 2006.03.23 23:09:00 -
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1st o/
Good hunting CAIN!!!
Squadron Leader Strikeclone
XV Squadron HQ
Peace through the application of superior firepower |
Azador Kavian
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Posted - 2006.03.23 23:26:00 -
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Edited by: Azador Kavian on 23/03/2006 23:26:23
I knew the Rogues were incompetent, but I never imagined them to be this stupid. You've just dug your own grave, ape.
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.03.23 23:33:00 -
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Good luck, Rogues.
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Xurx
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Posted - 2006.03.23 23:54:00 -
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Go teach em Sarchez !! 
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Camar
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Posted - 2006.03.24 00:04:00 -
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This will be most interesting...
SRS would like to wish the Rogues good hunting-fortune.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.24 00:24:00 -
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While I doubt CAIN would accept my, or The Wild Geeses help, I would still appreciate it if they would let me know if I can do anything to help. It's not an issue of me liking CAIN, it's an issue of unprovoked declarations of war.
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.03.24 00:30:00 -
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 Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
...it's an issue of unprovoked declarations of war.
Unprovoked? I would say there has been some definite provocation.
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Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.03.24 00:31:00 -
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Alexis, they invited us themselves - as you can read here
So much for unprovoked wars.
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Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.03.24 00:32:00 -
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Lock and load, boys. Maybe they'll stand up and fight this time.
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Karl Mattar
LT-CMDR, CAIN
Mattar Munitions LLC - Ammo for all your needs.
Coming soon to a Gallente ship near you! |
Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.03.24 00:37:00 -
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The stench from your corpses in our hangar suggests we did last time as well Karl.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.24 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 24/03/2006 00:39:42
Originally by: Sarchez
Alexis, they invited us themselves - as you can read here
So much for unprovoked wars.
Trash talking is not my definition of provocation. Something substantial like destroying a defenseless hauler or a mining barge, that's a provocation. Enroaching upon your territory, that's a provocation. Angry drunken pilots hurling insults is call for a duel of honor, but not an act of war.
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Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.03.24 01:02:00 -
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Edited by: Sarchez on 24/03/2006 01:04:09
Honor is something you earn Alexis, and whatever honor the members of CAIN has ever had, dissapeared with the contiuned blabbering comming from them, after their previous defeat.
I doubt you know the history between CAIN and ourselves, or you would know this is much more that a couple of insults being thrown our way.
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2006.03.24 01:15:00 -
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History has shown most of the Minmitaar's vast failures to be mainly self-inflicted wounds.
Good to see some trends stay constant.
Minister of Foreign Affairs - Aegis Militia
Fleet Admiral/CEO - The Aeternus Crusade |
Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.24 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sarchez
I doubt you know the history between CAIN and ourselves, or you would know this is much more that a couple of insults being thrown our way.
Justifying your conflict as a blood feud isn't any classier. Your Casus Belli is a joke, and I think you know that.
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Redwolf
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Posted - 2006.03.24 01:19:00 -
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Lets hope CAIN can give Rogues better fare than thier norm of mining and hauling corps can.
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.03.24 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sarchez
after their previous defeat.
You mean after the last war, where you retracted. 
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All for the Good of Many
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Wolfgang Jager
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Posted - 2006.03.24 06:15:00 -
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Did you actually even wait a day after our war with SERK ended before you retracted your last war and went back to hunting sheep? None of us had a clue why you called it off suddenly, we were enjoying ourselves immensely.
Death? Meaningless, my clones are paid up...can't wait to see you in space....
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Tommy TenKreds
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Posted - 2006.03.24 06:34:00 -
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Edited by: Tommy TenKreds on 24/03/2006 06:34:49
Originally by: Sarchez
2006.03.23 22:58
Rogues has declared war on Caldari Independent Navy Reserve.
I notice that you don't state any objectives for this war, so I take it you consider this a grudge match. Well you should consider the grudge mutual on behalf of all the Caldari you have terrorised.
A-MEX corporation will officially support CAIN in this conflict. Standings will be set accordingly.
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Strikeclone
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Posted - 2006.03.24 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tommy TenKreds
Edited by: Tommy TenKreds on 24/03/2006 06:34:49
Originally by: Sarchez
2006.03.23 22:58
Rogues has declared war on Caldari Independent Navy Reserve.
I notice that you don't state any objectives for this war, so I take it you consider this a grudge match. Well you should consider the grudge mutual on behalf of all the Caldari you have terrorised.
A-MEX corporation will officially support CAIN in this conflict. Standings will be set accordingly.
Agreed.....
and /signed...
and likewise....
Squadron Leader Strikeclone
XV Squadron HQ
Peace through the application of superior firepower |
Ladel Teravada
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Posted - 2006.03.24 09:13:00 -
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C.N.S Skyravager, C.N.S. Furious Mind, C.N.S Forgotten and C.N.S. Taris Dream stands by, ready to unleash pain and suffering upon the weakness that is the Rogues.
Don't expect an easy fight Rogues. Where you assaulted untrained pilots with barely a few millions of isk in their wallets before you will now engage trained pilots with hundreds of millions in funds.
The fleets of the Caldari Independent Naval Reserves gathers again, courage and determination leading us through the trials ahead.
/Commander Ladel Teravada
Caldari Independent Naval Reserves
Commander Ladel Teravada
Deputy Quartermaster
Captain, C.N.S. Skyravager
Caldari Independent Naval Reserves
Lai Dai Loyalist |
Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.03.24 10:19:00 -
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I will be joining this fight one way or the other. I look forward to your demise Terrorist.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2006.03.24 10:36:00 -
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Good hunting, CAIN. I have no doubts that it will be a successfull campaign for you.
Now recruiting!
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So'Kar
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Posted - 2006.03.24 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Redwolf
Lets hope CAIN can give Rogues better fare than thier norm of mining and hauling corps can.
I don't think they will, but what ever.
In fact I expect less from them than our last war where our opponent actually did have fleet with battleships, hacs, interceptors unlike CAIN fleet that only seem to exist in their heads.
My only regret right now is that I didn't inform Sarchez in time that I will be busy couple days elsewhere, but don't think that I will miss much as I doubt that imaginary fleet will appear any more real than it did before.
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Davion Vrynn
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Posted - 2006.03.24 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Vendrin
I will be joining this fight one way or the other. I look forward to your demise Terrorist.
CAIN supported TKI in it's war with SERK, and that act deserves to be repayed.
If Vendrin is joining this fight, then you can rest assured that I will be there as well.
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Svetlana Scarlet
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Posted - 2006.03.24 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: So'Kar
In fact I expect less from them than our last war where our opponent actually did have fleet with battleships, hacs, interceptors unlike CAIN fleet that only seem to exist in their heads.
My only regret right now is that I didn't inform Sarchez in time that I will be busy couple days elsewhere, but don't think that I will miss much as I doubt that imaginary fleet will appear any more real than it did before.
If all it took was an imaginary fleet to keep you bottled up in whatever stations you could bribe your way into sheltering you last time, it would seem silly for us to spend millions of ISK on actual ships to do so again. Unless, of course, you are merely spewing propaganda -- if you think this conflict will help you save face, make people think you are anything more but a bunch of petty crooks, you and the rest of the Rogues are sadly mistaken.
I am ready to dance the deadly dance with you again, So'Kar. The Hippolyta's debt of blood to you will be repaid in full.
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LCDR Svetlana Scarlet
Deputy Quartermaster
Captain, CNS Redball Express
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve |
Mutlu Palutli
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Posted - 2006.03.24 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: So'Kar
In fact I expect less from them than our last war where our opponent actually did have fleet with battleships, hacs, interceptors unlike CAIN fleet that only seem to exist in their heads.
/me knows who So'kar is talking about ^^
I know that Danno had trained Docking lvl 5 for that week 
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Universal
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Posted - 2006.03.24 16:24:00 -
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Universal surveys the reports on his desk and leafs through the list of (mostly very ugly) pilots faces on the transcripts - `Must be Rogues - again`
Maybe you live by the old adage ``Third time lucky`` Rogues? Or will it just be another matter of or fleet singling you out and forcing you to dock again? We shall see
`General call to armourers and crew, prepare my Vessel!`
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Leaping Lemming
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Posted - 2006.03.24 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: Leaping Lemming on 24/03/2006 16:24:22
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Logan DeForte
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Posted - 2006.03.24 16:25:00 -
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C.N.S. Thors Hammer, C.N.S. Ravage and C.N.S. Trident all stand primed, armed and awaiting active duty. Sarchez, you owe me a Corpse, I intend on taking yours, with interest.
If anything, these skirmishes will strengthen our newer reqruits, afterall, I see this as nothing more than a training execise of cat and Mouse. Only CAIN has bigger claws and is hungry.
See you in space Rogues, or is that, see you at our Station Camps.
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.03.24 17:45:00 -
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Clearly, Rogues pose such a threat to CAIN and the Caldari way of life that you all have to join together to form a huge blob in order to defend yourselves. From the sidelines, all this hot air and bandwagon-jumping just looks like fear and weakness.
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Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.03.24 18:34:00 -
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It does appear like they have very little confidence in CAIN's abilities.
But then again, with CAIN officers looking for hired help - it would also seem that CAIN does not believe much in them either...
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Svetlana Scarlet
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Posted - 2006.03.24 18:53:00 -
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You will find it very hard to convince most sane people that having allies is a weakness.
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LCDR Svetlana Scarlet
Deputy Quartermaster
Captain, CNS Redball Express
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve |
Tharrn
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Posted - 2006.03.24 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Wanoah
Clearly, Rogues pose such a threat to CAIN and the Caldari way of life that you all have to join together to form a huge blob in order to defend yourselves. From the sidelines, all this hot air and bandwagon-jumping just looks like fear and weakness.
You as an alliance have no qualms to have wars with much smaller enemies either - and rightfully so. So, your point being?
Now recruiting!
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Louis DelaBlanche
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Posted - 2006.03.24 21:11:00 -
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im interested in seeing how this one pans out. The rogues have recently been active on these forums & CAIN (i think thats the anagram used) pilots have been for as long as I have. I have no vested interest in the result of this war though so ill simply say good luck & happy hunting to both sides. May you both destroy that which needs destroying & pod those who need podding.
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Danno
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Posted - 2006.03.24 22:07:00 -
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let me act as a translation service to anyone who cant see right through the cain/caldari response
"Let blob 'em"
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Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.03.24 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sarchez
It does appear like they have very little confidence in CAIN's abilities.
But then again, with CAIN officers looking for hired help - it would also seem that CAIN does not believe much in them either...
That business is my own, not corporate, business.
For someone who is so hypercritical, you should check dates.
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Karl Mattar
LT-CMDR, CAIN
Mattar Munitions LLC - Ammo for all your needs.
Coming soon to a Gallente ship near you! |
Davion Vrynn
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Posted - 2006.03.24 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Danno
let me act as a translation service to anyone who cant see right through the cain/caldari response
"Let blob 'em"
This gripe always has confused me. In times of war, one should use every advantage available, and unless I am mistaken (and I'm fairly sure I'm not) possession of greater numbers is an advantage.
If you have more people, why only use some?
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Derrys
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Posted - 2006.03.25 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: So'Kar
My only regret right now is that I didn't inform Sarchez in time that I will be busy couple days elsewhere, but don't think that I will miss much as I doubt that imaginary fleet will appear any more real than it did before.
You might want to ask your buddy Sarchez about that when you get back; seems to me there's the smoking wreckage of a T2-fitted Tempest that says otherwise.
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Pierre Dumonte
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Posted - 2006.03.25 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Pierre Dumonte on 25/03/2006 17:45:46
"No captain can go wrong if he puts his ship alongside that of his enemy" - Nelson
Fight and Die with Honour, the halls Valhalla await the vanquished
"You just broke the 11th commandment, you ****ed me off" |
Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.25 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: So'Kar
My only regret right now is that I didn't inform Sarchez in time that I will be busy couple days elsewhere, but don't think that I will miss much as I doubt that imaginary fleet will appear any more real than it did before.
((Try having to pull yourself away from playing Oblivion. That game's too damn addictive. ))
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran  |
Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.03.26 02:50:00 -
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APEX Unlimited will be joining the fight against Rogues.
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Mokh'Tar
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Posted - 2006.03.26 06:01:00 -
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Whoa! I'd be careful in assisting CAIN in any way... You may risk being wardecced by Rogues without any warning!
Oh no! What shall we do?
Clearly CAINf has been too much of a pain in the arse for them so they wanted to get up close and personal with us at first given opportunity. Also, since they're suffering losses of their nice and shiny T2 fitted vessels, they wanted to bring some softer targets into this so they can feel all manly again.
Go Rogues! I'm awfully impressed by your inspiring ways to show the galaxy you are to be respected... *snicker*
No quarter will be given nor expected.
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Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.03.26 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mokh'Tar
Whoa! I'd be careful in assisting CAIN in any way... You may risk being wardecced by Rogues without any warning!
CAIN Foreign Auxillary is clearly a wing off CAIN itself.
Atleast now Concord won't interfer, when you attempt to bring them into the fray, by locking our pilots during combat. A pitifull tactic if there ever was one.
We did indeed leave you out of hostilities to begin with, but you chose your own path.
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2006.03.26 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Wanoah
...the Caldari way...
Come in peace, Caldari are many.
Come guns blazing, many turns one.
That's the Caldari way.
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Barriers - an EVE novel - Chapter #4 released |
Mokh'Tar
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Posted - 2006.03.26 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sarchez
Atleast now Concord won't interfer, when you attempt to bring them into the fray, by locking our pilots during combat. A pitifull tactic if there ever was one.
We did indeed leave you out of hostilities to begin with, but you chose your own path.
Surely seasoned pilots like yourself won't fall for that? Can't blame pilots for showing a healthy interest in the status quo of an ongoing battle.
Our path was chosen when we signed up. It's not something we choose at a whim. Did the Rogues really believe we'd merely sit and watch?
Good luck out there. You'll need it.
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Grifter Treysik
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Posted - 2006.03.26 23:37:00 -
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*Grifter chuckles while reading Sarchez's message*
Pitiful tactics? Are you upset because CAINf was doing a great job on recon, that you need to claim it "pitiful"?
We use the tools and allies we have available to us. You call it pitiful, we call it stradegy. There are several options to assist in war times, this was one.
I'm sorry you feel the need to bash our smart tactics.
More or less, you're just upset your not winning the war.
Cmdr Grifter Treysik
CO of CAINf
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Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.03.27 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Sarchez on 27/03/2006 00:22:10
Your recon was expected and acceptable.
Your attemps to involve concord was not. There's nothing new or smart about it - and there is several other tactics that could be considered smart - the black hole one - for instant, but neither of them are found acceptable between pod-pilots.
Should you choose to continue that path - we'd have to re-evaluate if we should use same measures against you. A path we'll not be willingly taking.
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Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.03.27 00:23:00 -
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Either way, the war has expanded. Let's keep the smack to a minimum on all sides, and let our guns do the talking.
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Karl Mattar
LT-CMDR, CAIN
Mattar Munitions LLC - Ammo for all your needs.
Coming soon to a Gallente ship near you! |
Van Cleef
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Posted - 2006.03.27 03:29:00 -
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The Rogues corporation is a well known Terrorist organization that prays on weaker corporations to force their agenda forward. Their recent incursions into Caldari Space to pratice their brand of terrorism is unacceptable.
CAIN combat pilots look forward to the chance to stop these terrorists inside our Borders. All CAIN and CAINf combat commands have prepared for this new attack into Caldari Space aimed at CAIN.
CAIN has always been a beacon of the Caldari People, and it is obvious why we are targeted by people who would harm the State.
The Caldari people are a proud and powerful people. The posts of encouragement and support show that when you are willing to stand the line between terrorists and peaceful citzens, you do not have to stand it alone.
Combat operations have already begun and blood as been spilt on both sides. We will aggressively target the Rogues during this new period of hostilies. It also makes us glad that while the Allied Caldari pilots combat this menance, they cannot practice their perverse acts of terrorism.
CAIN looks forward to this new round.
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Serve the State
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Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.03.27 03:49:00 -
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In 24 hours,CONCORD sanctioned combat will begin against Rogues by APEX. I look forward to joining the fight with CAIN.
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Ladel Teravada
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Posted - 2006.03.27 10:30:00 -
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I will be happy to fly once again with you and yours Vendrin. You've proved valuable pilots to the State before and I have no doubts you will once again.
I'd like to thank all Caldari loyalists for their support, but at the same time make it clear that in my own opinion, in no way official, CAIN controls this war and does not call for military support of any kind. I say this to let everyone know that your political and popular support is enough to place you high in my esteem.
That said, any Caldari Corporations that decide that the Rogues menace will come at an end here and now are welcome to fly at my wing. Together we are strong.
I'd also like to give a bit of credit to Rogues. They have hid in starbases or fled at the sight of our Armadas, but in the end it is nothing to hold against them. The CAIN armada is strong and fearsome in it's might and the fact that they have several times stood and fought against it gives them honour.
Hail Caldari!
/Commander Ladel Teravada
C.N.S. Forgotten |
Davion Vrynn
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Posted - 2006.03.27 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ladel Teravada
I'd like to thank all Caldari loyalists for their support, but at the same time make it clear that in my own opinion, in no way official, CAIN controls this war and does not call for military support of any kind.
Oh, there's no disputing that. You just made it look like so much fun we couldn't resist joining in. 
In all seriousness though - We help because we believe in CAIN's cause and to return the favor for your help in the SERK war.
Operations Director, APEX Unlimited |
Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.03.28 15:18:00 -
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It appears that there are no more Rogues to fight. Only Sarchez and Danno have remained in the CAIN area of operations, and Sarchez won't leave station if he even catches a whiff of a CAIN pilot.
The only Rogue pilot that has come out repeatedly to fight the war has been Danno. He has perservered despite the destruction of several of his ships. Danno, I salute you. I regret that you lost those two ships to Concord actions. Bad luck there. It would have been far better to have lost them in a real fight. My only regret is that you have suffered these losses for a corporation that won't even fly at your wing.
If the Rogues intend to let this war dec expire, I really wish you'd just call it a defeat, cancel it, and go lick your wounds. Then we can all get back to business.
This has been a sorry excuse for a war.
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Karl Mattar
LT-CMDR, CAIN
Mattar Munitions LLC - Ammo for all your needs.
Coming soon to a Gallente ship near you! |
Svetlana Scarlet
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:21:00 -
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Unlike LCDR Mattar, I can find nothing but contempt for the like of the Rogues. They have attempted to discredit CAIN at every turn, and when push comes to shove, they do not have the force to back up all their bluster. The Reserve's single largest loss in this war was due to a friendly fire incident that resulted in a misunderstanding with CONCORD, a mistake which resulted in a severe reprimand for the officer at fault. Meanwhile, the Rogues have suffered the loss of at least two battleships at CAIN hands, one in less than 30 seconds before the Rogue pilot was able to retreat back into the station he had been using for shelter -- most likely by bribing the dockmaster. Since those losses on Saturday and the further loss of a Brutix-class battlecruiser on Sunday, there has been nothing but fleeting contact between CAIN forces and the Rogues as they scatter to the winds in the face of our task forces.
With the introduction of CAINf and Apex into the battle, it seems unlikely that the Rogues will change their minds and attempt to return to the fray -- even if they can absorb the financial losses from the destruction of those ships and the array of Tech2 equipment onboard, I doubt their egos can handle the bruising they are taking at the hands of our so-called "imaginary" fleets. Perhaps next time they wish to try flexing their muscle in Caldari space they will remember what the results of their last two wars with us have been like, and find softer targets -- I am sure they will have no shortage of soft-bellied opponents in the Gallente Federation, although I would hope that even the poorly-organized Gallente forces could expel these poor excuses for "Minmatar freedom fighters" from their borders. Then again, their defeat two months ago under the same circumstances does not appear to have deterred them in the least.
As I have done before, I will encourage any corporation -- Caldari or otherwise -- not to give in to their incredibly pathetic extortion attempts in the future. CAIN has proven,yet again, that they have no stomach for a real fight, and if you stand up to them -- or seek help from those who are equipped to do so -- they will move on to easier victims. There may be pirates worth fearing out there -- but the Rogues are certainly not one of them.
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LCDR Svetlana Scarlet
Deputy Quartermaster
Captain, CNS Redball Express
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve |
Danno
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Posted - 2006.03.29 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet
Edited by: Svetlana Scarlet on 28/03/2006 21:43:20
With the introduction of CAINf and Apex into the battle, it seems unlikely that the Rogues will change their minds and attempt to return to the fray -- even if they can absorb the financial losses from the destruction of those ships and the array of Tech2 equipment onboard, I doubt their egos can handle the bruising they are taking at the hands of our so-called "imaginary" fleets. Perhaps next time they wish to try flexing their muscle in Caldari space they will remember what the results of their last two wars with us have been like, and find softer targets -- I am sure they will have no shortage of soft-bellied opponents in the Gallente Federation, although I would hope that even the poorly-organized Gallente forces could expel these poor excuses for "Minmatar freedom fighters" from their borders. Then again, their defeat two months ago under the same circumstances does not appear to have deterred them in the least.
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Darian Edalth
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Posted - 2006.03.29 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Danno
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet
Edited by: Svetlana Scarlet on 28/03/2006 21:43:20
With the introduction of CAINf and Apex into the battle, it seems unlikely that the Rogues will change their minds and attempt to return to the fray -- even if they can absorb the financial losses from the destruction of those ships and the array of Tech2 equipment onboard, I doubt their egos can handle the bruising they are taking at the hands of our so-called "imaginary" fleets. Perhaps next time they wish to try flexing their muscle in Caldari space they will remember what the results of their last two wars with us have been like, and find softer targets -- I am sure they will have no shortage of soft-bellied opponents in the Gallente Federation, although I would hope that even the poorly-organized Gallente forces could expel these poor excuses for "Minmatar freedom fighters" from their borders. Then again, their defeat two months ago under the same circumstances does not appear to have deterred them in the least.
Such skill with words, such detail, such storytelling, such wonder! Truly he is as a god who wrote such a well thought our reply.
- Darian Edalth.
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Plasticman
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Posted - 2006.03.29 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Darian Edalth
Such skill with words, such detail, such storytelling, such wonder! Truly he is as a god who penned such a well thought out reply.
- Darian Edalth.
CAIN know why he smiles. No story telling is needed our point was made to CAIN. |
Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.03.29 14:58:00 -
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Plasticman! You do exist!
Are you still a Rogue? We haven't seen you yet on the field of battle, so there was some speculation.
How's life far far away out there in 0.0?
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Karl Mattar
Commander, CAIN
Mattar Munitions LLC - Ammo for all your needs.
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Gorion Wassenar
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Posted - 2006.03.29 15:38:00 -
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So let me get this straight, The rouges are mad because CAIN/f and Apex are not fighting fair? Thats good coming from ones who gank haulers ans claim vast combat exploits. As for the "blobage", I think thats more indicative of biting off more then you can chew.
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Grifter Treysik
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Posted - 2006.03.29 16:02:00 -
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*Grifter chuckles again, while reading Plasticmans reply*
Made a point? You haven't done anything. Rogues is a suiting name for your corporation. Rogues, always hiding in the shadows -- thats all we have done, chase shadows. Some, such as yourself Plasticman, we haven't even seen.
True Gorion, they claim us to be "blobbing" them. It's not our fault they chose to go to war with CAIN, who is much larger in fleet size. They honestly believe they we are going to tell our officers to stay stationside, while 2-3 or go out to hunt them down. Thats not how a war works. You use the resources you have. That is exactly what CAIN is doing.
They bit way off more then they can chew.
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Verisin
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Posted - 2006.03.29 16:11:00 -
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This has always confused me about these "wars" that you fight. You complain when an enemy brings superior firepower to a battle, yet is that not good strategy? Fight the enemy on your terms, not his. Bring every advantige you have to the field of battle. What do you beleive that you are fighting, a duel of honor between gentlemen? This is a war, act like it is. Did the Gallentean Navy hold back from scarring Caldari Prime with superior firepower because the Caldari did not have proper defense against it?
You are Minmatar for Eve's sake! Grow some backbone and fight your enemies with the same tenacity that you opposed Amarr with. Did the Federation support your move to freedom to have you forget how you fought it? If the enemy has more forces, attack where he does not expect it, hit his mining vessels, his support ships, the soft underbelly of his war-machine.
What I mean to say is, stop moaning about how your enemies have too many allies. You declared this war, now fight it!
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Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.03.29 16:16:00 -
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The first real engagement didn't commence until last night, where we probed your "fleet". It was clear that half the CAIN pilots didn't have the stomach for the fight, and abandoned their wingmen - with the obvious consequenses.
Claiming victory, before real battle has been joined, was never a wise move.
Gorion, you know very few facts about our operations - your message proofs as much.
However, I will give you one fact. We don't need Concord to fight our battles for us, so we don't attempt to pull them into any fight. Considering we are nothing but a training excercise for CAIN, we obvously didn't expect them to need such assistance either.
Svetlana, I'm starting to think you have a crush on me - or someone else in the Rogues.
I do enjoy reading your messages, so full of emotion.....and courage! Especially when you refer to our previous "defeat" against you.
I know why Danno smiles.
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Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.03.29 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Sarchez on 29/03/2006 16:22:36
As for the "blobbing" tactic.
There has been no complaints, that I'm aware off - but only a comment about it, while CAIN was gathering their allies, so they didn't have to stand up to their bold words themselves, but had somebody to hide behind.
That CAIN themselves chooses to use this strategy against us is perfectly acceptable.
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Gorion Wassenar
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Posted - 2006.03.29 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: Gorion Wassenar on 29/03/2006 16:53:21
I know enough to know that everyone joining the fight on CAIN's side isn't trying to help because CAIN needs it, they just want you all dead.
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Rjak Teken'duis
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Posted - 2006.03.29 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sarchez
There has been no complaints, that I'm aware off - but only a comment about it, while CAIN was gathering their allies, so they didn't have to stand up to their bold words themselves, but had somebody to hide behind.
Hide behind who, exactly? CAIN has racked up more kills in this war than all of our allies combined, and in all but two of our engagements we have had no outside assistance whatsoever. And while we seek to proactively engage you, you remain safe in your little stations. Sarchez, you in particular seem to have lost your taste for combat after your Tempest was blown out from beneath you in the first 24 hours of the war. I cannot help but have a grudging respect for Danno, who, even after he is destroyed countless times, continues to be the sole Rogues pilot who consistently seeks engagement. It's almost as though you are looking to him to carry the burden that you, Sarchez, have placed upon your corporation.
No doubt you will wait to engage one of our lone battleships - perhaps a CAIN pilot that has become too complacent - and destroy it. Then, having had 'the last word', you will retract your war and claim "victory". 
Lt. Commander Rjak Teken'duis
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Danno
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Posted - 2006.03.29 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: Danno on 29/03/2006 20:49:11
Edited by: Danno on 29/03/2006 20:48:37
Originally by: Rjak Teken'duis
I cannot help but have a grudging respect for Danno, who, even after he is destroyed countless times
Lt. Commander Rjak Teken'duis
CNS Blackguard
Kaunokka
IT WAS ME !
no doubt the drugs and drink fueling this will take the credit for the genius of my work  ah well back to the grindstone
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Davion Vrynn
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Posted - 2006.03.29 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Davion Vrynn on 29/03/2006 20:54:28
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Svetlana Scarlet
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Posted - 2006.03.29 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sarchez
The first real engagement didn't commence until last night, where we probed your "fleet". It was clear that half the CAIN pilots didn't have the stomach for the fight, and abandoned their wingmen - with the obvious consequenses.
So the "first real engagement" is automatically the one where you actually manage to destroy one of our battleships -- but the engagements that occurred in the first 72 hours of the war where you lost at least 4 times that tonnage in warships was what? You trying to build up our confidence so we would dismiss you? That is an interesting strategy, if only it actually worked.
Originally by: Sarchez
Claiming victory, before real battle has been joined, was never a wise move.
CAIN certainly hasn't been the one shying from battle -- the fact that your number hide in whatever stations you can bribe to shelter you, flee into Jita to hide yourselves in the vast amounts of traffic there, and use every other tactic you can to disappear 90% of the time is a fine strategy, if you perceive yourselves at a disadvantage. One might suggest not proclaiming your great skill and being the instigator of such wars in the future though, if you believe yourselves so outclassed.
Originally by: Sarchez
Svetlana, I'm starting to think you have a crush on me - or someone else in the Rogues.
I do enjoy reading your messages, so full of emotion.....and courage! Especially when you refer to our previous "defeat" against you.
Please. The Rogues are the worst of the rabble the Republic has bred in the years since their independence. While even the marauders of Ushra'Khan have my grudging respect, you are nothing more than a petty crook, and one with a mouth large enough to swallow the tonnage in ships that any competent force that opposes you shoves down your throat. If you were smart, you would retreat back into whatever foul hole birthed the lot of you and entertain yourself assaulting naive transport and mining barge captains in deep space. Instead, you insist on bludgeoning yourself bloody with your own foot while it is repeatedly shoved into your gaping maw.
While I may have passion in my words towards you and your kind, it is not romantic, it is the pure contempt and disgust I have for your lot.
Originally by: Sarchez
I know why Danno smiles.
Do you? Is it because he is constantly left to fend for himself while his "friends" leave him alone to face fleet after fleet of CAIN and allied ships? Even after you have shown that the Rogues have the capability to place a dangerous force on the battlefield, it seems that it is too much trouble for you to emerge from hiding long enough to break a CAIN blockade long enough to let him escape -- an abandonment that has cost him a pair of battleships at the least, to say nothing of the expensive equipment onboard. Why he has any loyalty to you and whatever mysterious benefactors continue to provide you with the millions (or billions) of ISK needed to replace the losses you have suffered is a question which continues to baffle the lot of us.
If he smiles because the Rogues have managed to destroy three of my ships this war -- two cruisers and a frigate, with perhaps a combined value in the 30M ISK range -- then I shudder to think what you would consider a "defeat", seeing as how he traded the loss of a tech2-equipped Brutix for just one of those cruiser kills, with a value of at least 40M ISK. Perhaps it is the smile of the truly mad -- I suppose that would explain why he continues to fly with the Rogues despite your apparent disregard for his well-being.
If this is to be an example of Minmatar cohesion, then I weep for your homeland, because there is truly no hope for the Republic.
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Strikeclone
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:11:00 -
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*Sound of gunfire in the background as the screen lights up*
Good work CAIN boys (and girls)
I have not had the pleasure of meeting any rogues down in the darker reaches of Caldari space. I currently am commanding my ground assault troops in the annihilation of Gurista ground bases in the Oimmo sector.
*More gunfire and the screams of the wounded sound in the background*
piratical scum like rabid dogs need to be eliminated to prevent further contamination. I wish you all the best with your cull of this particular breed of dog.
*Behind the image of Strikeclone on the vidcom a giant power suited shock trooper picks up a Gurista pirate and breaks his back across his armoured knee. His scream is cut short but it momentarily covers what Strikeclone is saying*
*sound of bone snapping* ....ucking. *background screaming* .....ankers, kill 'em all!
Good hunting
Strikeclone out!
Squadron Leader Strikeclone
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Dev Larren
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Posted - 2006.03.30 06:17:00 -
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Well done to my comrades. I am merely a spectator these days and only get to follow the action through after-action reports but one thing is clear: Rogues have overextended themselves on this one and are being punished for it. However credit must be given where it is due. Danno is a fighter. He does honour to himself and his cause even if no others do.
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2006.03.30 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Rjak Teken'duis
I cannot help but have a grudging respect for Danno, who, even after he is destroyed countless times
Lt. Commander Rjak Teken'duis
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Kaunokka
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So'Kar
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Posted - 2006.03.30 09:35:00 -
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Just got back and what a load of crap i see here coming from CAIN.
Declaring self victory after first few days couldn't be more classic. Complaining how Rogues havent engaged when odds were something like 4 to 1 is just funny. Don't take this as complaining and I expect you guys use all available means including your friends in State War Academy.
The fact Danno have engaged your so called fleet alone should tell you how much he think of your "fleet". Not much. That fleet isnt even anything more than handful of ships what I was told.
Some keep saying here how everyone from our previous wars want us dead. You couldn't be more wrong than that. We are friendly terms with lot of them and many thanked us for opening their eyes. Maybe rest of Caldari see it once Amarr start enslaving you too.
(hi scumbag )
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.03.30 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: So'Kar
That fleet isnt even anything more than handful of ships what I was told.
No, but we've managed to take down your comrades easily enough.
I believe, that while victory might not be clear, given that we have destroyed more ships and assets they carry (modules, etc.) of yours and limited your movements in State space it would be safe to observe that we hold the advantage in this war.
Consider the walk, walked.
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Svetlana Scarlet
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Posted - 2006.03.30 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Svetlana Scarlet on 30/03/2006 15:13:22
Originally by: So'Kar
Declaring self victory after first few days couldn't be more classic. Complaining how Rogues havent engaged when odds were something like 4 to 1 is just funny. Don't take this as complaining....
I do not think anyone of us was complaining -- merely amused, that after all your bluster about how you would bring our "imaginary" fleet to its knees, you have only managed to kill a handful of ships, most of cruiser-class or less with relatively cheap equipment, while we have destroyed a half-dozen battleships loaded with Tech2 gear. Of course I don't expect you to fight when you are outnumbered four to one. Only a fool would take those odds time after time and think he could win every time. However, you and the rest of your band of rabble should have known what the odds would be like when you declared this war in the first place. I believe this is called "biting off more than you can chew."
Originally by: So'Kar
The fact Danno have engaged your so called fleet alone should tell you how much he fears your "fleet". Not much. That fleet isnt even anything more than handful of ships what I was told.
I am told the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. There is a rather large difference between bravery and insanity. His "sacrifices" have served you no purpose, gained you no advantage -- merely made you out to be the laughingstock of Caldari space. But do keep beating your heads bloody against the brick wall -- perhaps some day you will knock yourselves out and we will be free from your constant prattling.
And if all we have is a handful of ships, the fact that we continue to have such a strong combat record against your corporation seems all the more spectacular, considering you are better equipped and presumably more experienced -- although perhaps you are not used to opponents who actually fight back.
Originally by: So'Kar
Some keep saying here how everyone from our previous wars want us dead. You couldn't be more wrong than that. We are friendly terms with lot of them and many thanked us for opening their eyes. Maybe rest of Caldari see it once Amarr start enslaving you too.
If that is so, where are your "friends" to speak on your behalf now, when you are not terrorizing them? There is a rather large difference between fear and respect -- perhaps that is a lesson you must learn the hard way.
The Caldari State has never been anyone's lapdog, and never will. The Gallente learned this once -- if they, the Republic, or the Empire forget this, we shall be happy to remind them.
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Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.03.30 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Sarchez on 30/03/2006 16:21:07
Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen
No, but we've managed to take down your comrades easily enough.
I believe, that while victory might not be clear, given that we have destroyed more ships and assets they carry (modules, etc.) of yours and limited your movements in State space it would be safe to observe that we hold the advantage in this war.
Consider the walk, walked.
Granted, you have scored more hits, than in our previous war - but then again, it would be almost impossible for you to score less.
Myself included - though I had a cunning plan...that didn't quite worked out as intended. None of your doing though.
However, our movements has not been restricted in any way. I'm certain your fellow pilots would agree to that, if they look up from mopping the floors, and out of the windows in the REAL navy's stations.
Svetlana - Let me assure you, Danno is exactly where he wants to be, when he wants to be.
I know why he smiles.
You do seem very concerned about isk in your summary of losses - but you can hardly blame us for what ships you decide to bring to a battle.
For clarification - I consider a battle to be between several pilots on each side, regardless of the outcome. Anything less, and it's just a skirmish, again regardless of the outcome.
Why would we need anyone to speak on our behalf Svetlana ?
The walk has barely begun.
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Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.03.30 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sarchez
For clarification - I consider a battle to be between several pilots on each side, regardless of the outcome. Anything less, and it's just a skirmish, again regardless of the outcome.
No offense, Sarchez, but the only pilot that ever seems to be in his pod when most of us are flying is Danno. If you are there, you are kicking back in Jita.
If it's sixguns at high noon you want (ie a fleet battle), perhaps you should communicate directly with our CEO, Cabaeran, and arrange a time and a place. I'm sure between the two of you, you can work out a mutually satisfactory arrangement. Don't worry, we'll be there. When you win, then you can crow on about how great your tactics and strategy is.
Until then, this is all wasted static on the comms. We'll form gangs and chase Danno. He runs around and won't make a stand. Occasionally, he'll make a mistake, and get blown to pieces. Yeah, that's real productive. I'm smiling about it too, the whole time I'm off doing something else without a care in the world.
If I ever see more than two of you in the pods, hell, I might even go get a warship instead of my little old mining scow. Right now, my biggest threat is ore theives.
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Wolfgang Jager
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Posted - 2006.03.30 17:29:00 -
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Why exactly should we care that *your* movements haven't been constrained? Wasn't the point of this war to come and "teach us a lesson", to laugh at our imaginary fleets?
So far, you're the ones with the imaginary fleet. Prove your point already, we make no secret of the fact that most of us fly out of Kaunokka, or our base in Venilen. Put up or shut up, come try and blockade us in and see what happens. Or are you afraid to lose more battleships there?
You are buzzing little gnats, not worth our time to pursue when you flee a dozen systems or more off after buzzing around for a moment. Most of us have been ignoring you, running missions, chasing other pirates and generally carrying on normally.
Lt. Commander Wolfgang Jager
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Svetlana Scarlet
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Posted - 2006.03.30 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sarchez
Granted, you have scored more hits, than in our previous war - but then again, it would be almost impossible for you to score less.
Yes, we hadn't really had much experience fighting people who hugged stations for dear life before that, since of all the things I could say about SERK, saying that they hid from fights would not be one of them.
Originally by: Sarchez
Myself included - though I had a cunning plan...that didn't quite worked out as intended. None of your doing though.
So....your losses have not been due to our skill, but your own incompetence? I do not see how that is supposed to make anyone take you more seriously.
Originally by: Sarchez
However, our movements has not been restricted in any way. I'm certain your fellow pilots would agree to that, if they look up from mopping the floors, and out of the windows in the REAL navy's stations.
....
As Hal says, we are not the ones that started this war to bring YOU to your knees. We are not the ones spending our time hiding in stations. We have logged many man-hours in space chasing your ships about Caldari space, sitting outside stations and around gates, waiting for our targets to present themselves. If they do not, and you sit in stations, or spend your time inside on the FTLcomm with your friends elsewhere, then so be it. If you are doing that, you cannot run your extortion rackets against other corporations. Our mission is not pointless destruction, but ensuring the security of Caldari space.
Originally by: Sarchez
Svetlana - Let me assure you, Danno is exactly where he wants to be, when he wants to be.
I suppose that answers the question I have posed before then.
Originally by: Sarchez
You do seem very concerned about isk in your summary of losses - but you can hardly blame us for what ships you decide to bring to a battle.
I am merely amused that you continue to waste millions or billions of ISK for no real gains. If you are mocking the fact that we continue to achieve a string of victories with relatively little resources, while you throw away money like it is going out of style....I do not know what to say to that. But I suppose it does answer the question of whether more advanced technology is enough to make up for a more fundamental lack, either of numbers, skill, or leadership.
Originally by: Sarchez
For clarification - I consider a battle to be between several pilots on each side, regardless of the outcome. Anything less, and it's just a skirmish, again regardless of the outcome.
How very convenient that you can define a battle as whatever you like, merely to support your own delusions of grandeur. I wonder how many other corporations share your definition of a "battle," or how many would be so quick to dismiss loss after constant loss in "skirmishes."
Originally by: Sarchez
Why would we need anyone to speak on our behalf Svetlana?
I am merely curious how you can claim to have so many very good friends among your previous victims, and yet no one ever seems to give you any words of encouragement or praise. Even the usual Minmatar peanut gallery has remained startlingly quiet over the last few days, once your complete failure to provide anything more than a token amount of resistance was revealed. Perhaps they have decided, as I did quite a while ago, that you are nothing more than a giant gasbag, and await the *pop* that will let all your hot air out, leaving you a puddle of scraps on the floor. Your thick layer of denial appears to require an industrial laser to cut through, however, so I doubt they (or we) will receive any form of relief anytime soon.
Originally by: Sarchez
The walk has barely begun.
Really. We are already a week into this war and your losses outweigh ours by at least a 2-to-1 margin, and you certainly have more targets to choose from. If the walk has barely begun, perhaps someone should give you a pair of crutches to help you hobble the rest of the way.
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LCDR Svetlana Scarlet
Deputy Quartermaster
Captain, CNS Redball Express
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve |
Derrys
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Posted - 2006.03.30 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: Derrys on 30/03/2006 19:59:10
Originally by: Sarchez
For clarification - I consider a battle to be between several pilots on each side, regardless of the outcome. Anything less, and it's just a skirmish, again regardless of the outcome.
In that case, the first battle took place the first day of the war, when a small task force blew your Tempest out from under you. Or did it revert back to a "skirmish" when your wingman Renfri Seductive bailed at the first sign of trouble?
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.03.30 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sarchez
Granted, you have scored more hits
Yes.
Originally by: Sarchez
Myself included - though I had a cunning plan...that didn't quite worked out as intended. None of your doing though.
Lose a Tempest and then not show up again? Seems to be working fine.
Originally by: Sarchez
However, our movements has not been restricted in any way.
Apart from being hunted whenever you show up around there. Danno can attest to that I'm sure, last I checked he was a fair bit away from State space however.
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Strikeclone
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Posted - 2006.03.30 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Strikeclone on 30/03/2006 20:51:48
Just an observation here as I am going on the various tit for tat posts here not first hand knowledge.
But does anyone else think that this thread is turning into a case of "my dads harder than your dad" type argument?
with the exception that shortly after the initial volley of words and the puffing up of chests, one of the dads is collapsed on the deck, a loud ringing in his ears and in his bloodied hands he is holding his own ass. And he he wondering "wtf just happend", and "its all just a blur" and "look at the pretty birds flying round my head"
Good work on the culling CAIN
Squadron Leader Strikeclone
XV Squadron HQ
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.30 23:08:00 -
[83]
Originally by: So'Kar
Edited by: So''Kar on 30/03/2006 11:01:25
Just got back and what a load of crap i see here coming from CAIN.
Declaring self victory after first few days couldn't be more classic. Complaining how Rogues havent engaged when odds were something like 4 to 1 is just funny.
Would you complain less if we cut down our numbers for you?
It's not going to happen, but really, war-deccing us then getting in a huff because we field more pilots...
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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Gothan
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Posted - 2006.03.31 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Gothan on 31/03/2006 19:26:53
I'd just like to remind all CAIN & CAINf staff that we are at war and while we are at war we should keep our chatter with the enemy to a minimum since it only serves as distraction.
If you have any CAIN or CAINf staff have questions concerning this please contact me through our internal and private communication systems.
Regards,
Commander Gothan
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