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WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:21:00 -
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In times of war there can often be hostile relations between both sides. Forum spam, local bashing, lolgaming news sites, we have all seen it.
But today I feel everyone can come together, who right now fight against each other in HED-GP, everyone can come to an agreement on one thing.
Fix Sov
This is terrible, this is not epic, this is not grand, this is not amazing. This is just putting a gun to the head of a blind and deaf man and yet this is also EvEs largest capital battle ever.
While the battle today is not the fault of CCP, we are merely people playing the game you created for us, it can at lest put a remind that something more needs to be done perhaps. The server can not handle these battles yet, but sov dictates they have to happen to take a single system.
I am not here to tell you how it can be done, CCP knows the code better then I and know what is possible and what is not. I am just want to say that the current Sov system(which has been around longer then POS sov system of old) is sub-optimal to the current EvE player base.
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WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
201
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:43:00 -
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At this point talking and getting CCP to admit it might need to look into Sov again is better then coming up with something that may or may not be possible
It will not be an easy task, but Eve has changed since Dominion has come about. I mean we were still using RR-CRBS when it came out! |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
207
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:24:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:WarFireV wrote:In times of war their can often be hostile relations between both sides. Forum spam, local bashing, lolgaming news sites, we have all seen it.
But today I feel everyone can come together, who right now, fight against each other in HED-GP. Everyone can come to an agreement on one thing.
Fix Sov
This is terrible, this is not epic, this is not grand, this is not amazing. This is just putting a gun to the head of a blind an deaf man and yet this is also EvEs largest capital battle ever.
While the battle today is not the fault of CCP, we are merely people playing the game you created for us, it can at lest put a remind that something more needs to be done perhaps. The server can not handle these battles yet, but sov dictates they have to happen to take a single system.
I am not here to tell you how it can be done, CCP knows the code better then I and know what is possible and what is not. I just want to say that the current Sov system(which has been around longer then POS sov system of old) is sub-optimal to the current EvE player base. THen why in hell everytime someone suggest changes to move sov in favor of more smaller scaled engagements with valid small scale targets that hurt the sov.. both sides.. yours and yoru enemy call thes epeopel stupid? No.. you do not want fun fights. You like the status quo... you want that.. and now you pay for it with fights that are not fun at all.
Bro me and my people? This is about togetherness over something that is broken not about stupid propaganda. |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
260
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Posted - 2014.01.19 13:56:00 -
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Hyperbole about capital and jumping changes don't really help a whole lot. It would make people more frustrated then actually help EvE as a whole.
Lets just look back for a moment. Besides the fact that not everything in Dominion was implemented, one of the reasons it was put into place was so there would be more set piece battles. Now after many years and many fixes we may have reached the pinnacle of what is possible in set piece battles in EvE.
Like I said before CCP is not to blame for what happened, it just possibly shows that maybe something does need to changed. There is more then one way of going about it, but the first step is realizing something needs to happen.
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WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
260
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Posted - 2014.01.19 14:24:00 -
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More utilization in Nullsec would be a good thing overall, but there isn't much incentive to "keep it" in nullsec. There needs to be greater industry in nullsec overall.
Force projection is sort of a crutch. People will always find a way to throw as many people into a system if they feel they have to. |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
267
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Posted - 2014.01.19 19:13:00 -
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If you remove caps, then in about a year people will come back and say remove faction battleships. There will always be the big money item. |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.01.19 19:29:00 -
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Anna Outamo wrote:WarFireV wrote:If you remove caps, then in about a year people will come back and say remove faction battleships. There will always be the big money item. the answer is obvious, like Malcanis has said just make every Bridge/Gate jump cost fuel that fuel being Aurum. One PLEX Worth of Aurum covers you for a full day of gate travel and 4 titan bridges or Jump Drive Operations, and you can spend additional Aurum to make your jump drive act as if it's a Cal V Jump Drive. Obvious answer, simple to implement.
Should do this, then only PL will use jump drives and bridges  |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.01.19 19:50:00 -
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There are two main perspectives you can have about the root cause really.
HP and structures and timers mean people have to throw in as many people as they can into a sov timer.
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People throw in as many people into a sov timer as they can because there is no reason not to. |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.01.20 06:49:00 -
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We have only ever gotten vague messages from CCP about changing Sov. Although there are hints they have basically said,"**** it." And then CCP going forward with making your own space, IE making gates and stuff, which would operate differently from nullsec sov.
The problem is this could take far longer then people could stand to actually be put into the game. |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
308
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:04:00 -
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They have been keeping pretty hush hush on anything related to HED-GP so far. Don't blame them though, with the reaction they would receive. |
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WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:02:00 -
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*****, I'll cut you. |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:29:00 -
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Could go on forever about the battle, but it doesn't matter anymore. Ships are not coming back, the only thing you can do is play on. People messed up and a ton of other people followed right along. |
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