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Silent Nightingale
Orders Academy SOLAR WING
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Posted - 2014.01.19 23:51:00 -
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Dear CCP, Eve Online is a game which is -¦ MMORPG, the main advantage of which is declared to be the chance of taking part in large-scale battles with thousands of ships fighting in one system. Not long ago there was a battle in HED-GP and lots of pilots have prepared their ships, looking forward to have much fun that day. That battle was supposed to be a culmination of a long war between the leading claim alliances. But instead of that they had to face terrible lags and infernal TD because of your inability to provide the stable functioning of your servers. Both sides GÇô those who killed and those who lost ships there are highly disappointed with what was going on and what they have got. It was not a fair battle - everything that happened there had nothing to do with game principles and mechanics, and it has no logical explanation. Moreover, those pilots who had lost expensive ships in lags due to the technical problems on your side havenGÇÖt received any reimbursement and it is demonstration of your injustice and total negligence towards common players. You provided reimbursement in similar cases but now you provide us with nothing else but excuses, which is obviously not enough. We asked to fix lags, but you either did nothing or suggested some partial solution which didnGÇÖt fix the problem in general. We were patient and we used to put up with it, but it was the last straw that broke the camelGÇÖs back. We are a group of people who cares for this game. A small group, but as soon as this message is posted on all eve-forums in all languages that we speak you will see how many people will be eager to join us. And we want you to start serious work on the technical problems you have now immediately. We want you to inform all the players about the changes and modifications that you are going to introduce in the nearest future to fix the lags and we need to know the time when it they will be embodied. Besides we demand reimbursement for all the ships killed in that period of time as a result of the system failures. And we want you to provide pilots with new ships or isks if it happens again. If a ship was lost not because of a pilotGÇÖs mistake or poor pvp skill, but as a result of a technical problem on your side - it is your fault and you must recompense for it. We spent our time, isks and efforts in game to gain those ships in an honest and lawful way and no one will put up with the fact of losing them because of game defects. If this message will have no effect on you and you ignore our words as you used to do before in 3 days we will do the following:
1)We will deactivate most of our accounts and stop buying plexes from the official site. Some of us have already got rid of their accounts and is just a beginning - there will be much more and soon. All secondary carebear or cyno accounts that are not really important for us to play the game will be frozen until the matter is settled. We will ask all our friends and accomplices to do the same. 2) We will take our ships to high-sec and send massive fleets to such systems as Amarr, Jita or Dodixie to share all the fascination of TD and lags with those pilots who do not take part in claim wars. We doubt it will make them feel happy and soon they will either leave the game or support our ideas. 3)We will ask talented people, who have played a lot and know this game well to write a number of surveys and to make a number of video clips in different languages showing what the liner side of the game GÇô the td, the lags, the technical imperfection of Eve Online and the proves of your unfair and careless attitude towards common players. These videos and surveys will be posted on every single game forum, under every your commercial to let the new players know what they will really get instead of fun that they see on your trailers. We will let them understand that for you all the players are not more than a source of income and if they face problems you will do nothing but apologize. Bad fame spreads quickly, but it will take years to get rid of it. And most people prefer to trust real gamers not trailers. If they see what really happens in multi-player battles, the GÇ£chess-shooterGÇ¥, the unjust victories covered by developers you can be sure they will give up the idea of playing Eve. The number of new players will fall, a number of old pilots will leave and it will affect you income and make you pay attention to these problems. We will wait for 3 days to see your first steps and your willingness to start a constructive dialogue with the playersGÇÖ community. If you start work and make up for the unjust losses we are not going to escalate the conflict. But if not, you will leave us no choice and we canGÇÖt see any other way of drawing your attention. We have little to lose now, cause we have lost any interest to play this game. Dear pilots If you care for what happens, if you are fed up with the lags, show your solidarity by giving likes to the topic and adding your comments and proposals. If you are ready to help us in any way tell us what you can do. Let the developers see that it is not a couple of whinning pilots but the opinion of the majority. They wonGÇÖt be able to ignore it. We must do something to get what we deserve GÇô fun and fair play. Please, repost this text to your game forums and give a link to this topic. |
fukier
1141
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Posted - 2014.01.19 23:57:00 -
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huh? At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4768
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Posted - 2014.01.19 23:59:00 -
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We already have a thread for this, several in fact. Why make yet another? . |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
200
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Posted - 2014.01.19 23:59:00 -
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That's really bad readable.
Correct your paragraphs.
Thanks! Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
200
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:00:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:We already have a thread for this, several in fact. Why make yet another? Because it's the concentrated effort of the same person?
Ooooor the nullbears are slowly taking over the forums ......................... Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
Silent Nightingale
Orders Academy SOLAR WING
7
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:14:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:That's really bad readable.
Correct your paragraphs.
Thanks!
I tried, but for some reason I can't, Sorry if there are misprints or mistakes, English is a foreign language for me. |
Qweasdy
Absolute Massive Destruction Cult of War
59
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:16:00 -
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Sooooo... umad bro? |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
200
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:19:00 -
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Silent Nightingale wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:That's really bad readable.
Correct your paragraphs.
Thanks! I tried, but for some reason I can't, Sorry if there are misprints or mistakes, English is a foreign language for me. Did you hit the character limit?
That would explain why you can't press ENTER, if that's what you meant.
It might not even hurt to shorten it a bit ... XD Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
657
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:19:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:We already have a thread for this, several in fact. Why make yet another?
That's an easy question to answer. These people think that they have something "special" to say. They think what they have to say is so vastly more important than anything the other hundreds of people that have already weighed in on this have to say.
Their input, while certainly valuable, is certainly NOT valuable enough for yet another thread about the same damn thing.
"You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
200
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:21:00 -
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The few lines I've glanced over tell me that you're trying to blackmail CCP.
Quote:3)We will ask talented people, who have played a lot and know this game well to write a number of surveys and to make a number of video clips in different languages showing what the liner side of the game GÇô the td, the lags, the technical imperfection of Eve Online and the proves of your unfair and careless attitude towards common players. These videos and surveys will be posted on every single game forum, under every your commercial to let the new players know what they will really get instead of fun that they see on your trailers.
That will work. Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
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Regam Voss
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
15
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:24:00 -
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TLDR RUS/CFC tried to pile to many people in system, didnt work, now they gonna quit. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
200
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:24:00 -
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Quote:2) We will take our ships to high-sec and send massive fleets to such systems as Amarr, Jita or Dodixie to share all the fascination of TD and lags with those pilots who do not take part in claim wars. We doubt it will make them feel happy and soon they will either leave the game or support our ideas. That'll just get you banned. Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
25
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:25:00 -
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TL:DR
Our FC's tried the impossible and rather than take blame, they shift blame to CCP and cry
Instead they could learn from their mistakes and come out stronger, but that won't happen |
Bob FromMarketing
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
268
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:26:00 -
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Hahahaha
TL;DR you're shutting down your RMT empire because of lag? |
Auranin Enat
The 2nd Foundation SOLAR WING
1
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:27:00 -
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Ess Pee Wye
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:28:00 -
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How are you going to send fleets to lag out Jita/Amarr/Dodixie if you are all unsubbed???????? |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
200
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:33:00 -
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Ess Pee Wye wrote:How are you going to send fleets to lag out Jita/Amarr/Dodixie if you are all unsubbed???????? On the upside to this ... the permabans make it unnecessary to unsub. :) Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
1038
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:38:00 -
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Silent Nightingale wrote: Eve Online is a game which is -¦ MMORPG, the main advantage of which is declared to be the chance of taking part in large-scale battles with thousands of ships fighting in one system.
Large fleet battle is only a part of EVE, mostly a marketing tool used by CCP in the past years, but not the most important. Face it, the majority of EVE players are not involved and not even intrested in such gameplay.
You'd be better to realize as soon as possible as what is "special" for you could not be so important for the rest of playerbase. In repsect of this insisting with this bully attitude "you have to do what we ask or we ruin this and that" not only make you look silly but also don't help in fixing problems.
Only help in marignalize you and increasing the idea (IMO a wrong idea) that a large part of EVE community already have about null sec: a place for crybabies, bug abusers and morons.
Beside, creating lag on purpose, as in your threats, I think is also a TOS violation.
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Raylucy
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:39:00 -
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Silent Nightingale wrote:1)We will deactivate most of our accounts and stop buying plexes from the official site. Some of us have already got rid of their accounts and is just a beginning - there will be much more and soon. All secondary carebear or cyno accounts that are not really important for us to play the game will be frozen until the matter is settled. We will ask all our friends and accomplices to do the same.
2) We will take our ships to high-sec and send massive fleets to such systems as Amarr, Jita or Dodixie to share all the fascination of TD and lags with those pilots who do not take part in claim wars. We doubt it will make them feel happy and soon they will either leave the game or support our ideas.
firstly, I shall say that threats are not really the way to go, but if that what floats your boat then so be it.
jita meets 10% tidi every weekend and almost every working day at certain times throughout the day, good luck fitting all your alts and whoever follows you in there when you have to deal with the jump in queues and doing that to amarr too? im pretty sure the suicide brigades will love that thus creating more high sec content, but word of that will spread eventually and players will just wait you out.
also in addition, it wasn't ccp's fault that you and the rest of the cfc decided to try to out blob what was already in that system even with 10% tidi. it was you and those that fly with you aka lemmings. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1578
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:49:00 -
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Why should people in Highsec/Losec give two fucks about Nullsec?
Oh wait, we don't! "I couldn't go through a single meeting with them without hearing them chop lines on the Skype call" says former CSM chairman The Mittani, who wishes to remain anonymous. -á |
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Silent Nightingale
Orders Academy SOLAR WING
13
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:01:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Why should people in Highsec/Losec give two fucks about Nullsec?
Oh wait, we don't! http://i.imgur.com/c9QTyPy.jpg "It is good the problem is not on our side, heh?" |
Qsadish
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:05:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:bug abusers
I see you've heard of PL |
Silent Nightingale
Orders Academy SOLAR WING
13
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:11:00 -
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This topic was created to cooperate people, who are ready to do something to attract all the possible attention to the problems I have mentioned. If it is a success - we all will have a better Eve, if it doesn't work - at least it was worth trying. No one will violate the rules, If coming to Jita at the same time is against EULA - we will find a legal way. If you agree that lags are a problem and CCP's refusal to recompense ships is unjust - all you need to do is to put a like here . If you are ready to do more, suggest what can be done. We have 3 days to collect people and to decide what to do. Or, perhaps we won't need to do anything and CCP will hear us. Add your voice to make us sound louder. |
Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi Unmentionables
2937
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:13:00 -
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Can I have your stuff?
As a serious note, the lag you get from 3k pilots in a system is a physical hardware limitation issue which is extremely difficult and expensive to overcome. IT isnt CCP's fault that NS people are a bunch of cap sitting blobbers who have long forgotten what a fun fight looks like. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |
mad gnu
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:33:00 -
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Sarah Nalelmir
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:42:00 -
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Silent Nightingale wrote:Dear CCP,
Eve Online is a game which is -¦ MMORPG, the main advantage of which is declared to be the chance of taking part in large-scale battles with thousands of ships fighting in one system. Not long ago there was a battle in HED-GP and lots of pilots have prepared their ships, looking forward to have much fun that day. That battle was supposed to be a culmination of a long war between the leading claim alliances. But instead of that they had to face terrible lags and infernal TD because of your inability to provide the stable functioning of your servers. Both sides GÇô those who killed and those who lost ships there are highly disappointed with what was going on and what they have got. It was not a fair battle - everything that happened there had nothing to do with game principles and mechanics, and it has no logical explanation. Moreover, those pilots who had lost expensive ships in lags due to the technical problems on your side havenGÇÖt received any reimbursement and it is demonstration of your injustice and total negligence towards common players. You provided reimbursement in similar cases but now you provide us with nothing else but excuses, which is obviously not enough. We asked to fix lags, but you either did nothing or suggested some partial solution which didnGÇÖt fix the problem in general. We were patient and we used to put up with it, but it was the last straw that broke the camelGÇÖs back. We are a group of people who cares for this game. A small group, but as soon as this message is posted on all eve-forums in all languages that we speak you will see how many people will be eager to join us. And we want you to start serious work on the technical problems you have now immediately. We want you to inform all the players about the changes and modifications that you are going to introduce in the nearest future to fix the lags and we need to know the time when it they will be embodied. Besides we demand reimbursement for all the ships killed in that period of time as a result of the system failures. And we want you to provide pilots with new ships or isks if it happens again. If a ship was lost not because of a pilotGÇÖs mistake or poor pvp skill, but as a result of a technical problem on your side - it is your fault and you must recompense for it. We spent our time, isks and efforts in game to gain those ships in an honest and lawful way and no one will put up with the fact of losing them because of game defects. If this message will have no effect on you and you ignore our words as you used to do before in 3 days we will do the following:
1)We will deactivate most of our accounts and stop buying plexes from the official site. Some of us have already got rid of their accounts and is just a beginning - there will be much more and soon. All secondary carebear or cyno accounts that are not really important for us to play the game will be frozen until the matter is settled. We will ask all our friends and accomplices to do the same.
2) We will take our ships to high-sec and send massive fleets to such systems as Amarr, Jita or Dodixie to share all the fascination of TD and lags with those pilots who do not take part in claim wars. We doubt it will make them feel happy and soon they will either leave the game or support our ideas.
3)We will ask talented people, who have played a lot and know this game well to write a number of surveys and to make a number of video clips in different languages showing what the liner side of the game GÇô the td, the lags, the technical imperfection of Eve Online and the proves of your unfair and careless attitude towards common players. These videos and surveys will be posted on every single game forum, under every your commercial to let the new players know what they will really get instead of fun that they see on your trailers. We will let them understand that for you all the players are not more than a source of income and if they face problems you will do nothing but apologize. Bad fame spreads quickly, but it will take years to get rid of it. And most people prefer to trust real gamers not trailers. If they see what really happens in multi-player battles, the GÇ£chess-shooterGÇ¥, the unjust victories covered by developers you can be sure they will give up the idea of playing Eve.
The number of new players will fall, a number of old pilots will leave and it will affect you income and make you pay attention to these problems. We will wait for 3 days to see your first steps and your willingness to start a constructive dialogue with the playersGÇÖ community. If you start work and make up for the unjust losses we are not going to escalate the conflict. But if not, you will leave us no choice and we canGÇÖt see any other way of drawing your attention. We have little to lose now, cause we have lost any interest to play this game.
Dear pilots If you care for what happens, if you are fed up with the lags, show your solidarity by giving likes to the topic and adding your comments and proposals. If you are ready to help us in any way tell us what you can do. Let the developers see that it is not a couple of whinning pilots but the opinion of the majority. They wonGÇÖt be able to ignore it. We must do something to get what we deserve GÇô fun and fair play. Please, repost this text to your game forums and give a link to this topic.
Who ground up your parents an turned them into chilli ? :S
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Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:49:00 -
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Regam Voss wrote:TLDR RUS/CFC tried to pile to many people in system, didnt work, now they gonna quit.
Exactly. N3/PL had about 900 in system, they left room for CFC and pets to come in.
CFC dumped 1800 in system, followed by another 1000 all at the same time.
We all know goon means stupid person, but really?
CFC is the one that caused their own problem.
How many dreads did you lose, ~350?
We love goon tears. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
3411
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:53:00 -
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IB4L
I'm pretty sure threatening and/or organizing groups to deal massive lag hits to Amarr or Dodixie, etc, constitutes willful disruption of the game and is grounds to lock this thread.
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Sarah Nahrnid
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Nulli Secunda
21
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:55:00 -
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Cry harder. You jumped in knowing what was there and how much lag was there.
it was your foolish decision to light a cyno at zero to our fleet of 50+ titans, 400+ archons and numerous supers.
Again, you did that to yourself. |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:56:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:IB4L
I'm pretty sure threatening and/or organizing groups to deal massive lag hits to Amarr or Dodixie, etc, constitutes willful disruption of the game and is grounds to lock this thread.
Whoohooo, in before lock also.
More goon tears please. |
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