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Xortica
Horizon Eventus SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:23:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Can I haz you and your firends stuff? no, you can't |

Xortica
Horizon Eventus SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:25:00 -
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Sarah Nalelmir wrote:oh and as a new player to the game you know what gets beaten into us from day 1 ?
DONT FLY WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO REPLACE I can replace it, problem is not replacing, problem - game mechanic is broken and CCP doen't do anything with that |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1146
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:37:00 -
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Xortica wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=313959&p=1 Why this topic was closed? I was playing Eve more than 8 years. It was a good and bad time but CCP always do some fixes or try to change something. Last time i see just new cosmetic updates(say hi to new hulls and new structures like ess), HED-GP fight show ccp doesn't care they have their money. Now they can write 'Mass PVP GAME! 4r pilots in one battle!'. CSM doesn't work. So last can i do - cancel my subscriptons, maybe ccp will be back to players, if not - too bad, but they wiil not see my money any more. Server works fine (c) ccp Sorry for bad English, it's not my native language.
Your side was stupid. Everyoen knows it, even you. You shoudl have logged out the domis jsut before jumping the dreads.. But noo.. you TRIED to collapse the node.
Do not blame CCP on this. Blame your diplomats that prefer power crreep and huge coalitions isntead of an interestign 0.0 with dozens of independent entities like it was 7 years ago.
Your leaders fault, not CCP. Stop group huggins like carebears Gnus that cannot stand to live by their own strenght
The fault is ENTIRELY from the carebearish thinking of your coalition leaders. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1146
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:40:00 -
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Xortica wrote:Sarah Schneider wrote:Anthar Thebess wrote:Someone probably is abusing its position in censorship. This is important issue.
Eve just proved that is not ready for current SOV war. CCP have to buy more servers - or change capitals and supers , and the sentry drone assist mechanic.
You do realize that CCP's Tranquility server is currently the worlds largest and most powerful commercial supercomputer in existence right? "if Skynet ever comes to pass, we'll know exactly who to blame." - Cassandra Khaw, PC Gamer, referring to Eve's Tranquility server in June 2013 Have you guys ever stop and wonder that the 'solution' to this issue is not just by slapping more processing power to the current one? CCP has already done what many have considered impossible to implement in terms of sustaining that kind of mass player activity on a single shard. http://top500.org/list/2013/11/there is no CCP cluster in this list
\His wordign is COMMERCIAL. All the top 500 are military , University, Government institution or Research machines. That do not need to be cost efficient.
Anyway the info on tranq is outdated, I tused to be one of the largest Cluster sin EUROPE like 7 years ago. But the list advances FAST. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Xortica
Horizon Eventus SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:43:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Xortica wrote:Sarah Schneider wrote:Anthar Thebess wrote:Someone probably is abusing its position in censorship. This is important issue.
Eve just proved that is not ready for current SOV war. CCP have to buy more servers - or change capitals and supers , and the sentry drone assist mechanic.
You do realize that CCP's Tranquility server is currently the worlds largest and most powerful commercial supercomputer in existence right? "if Skynet ever comes to pass, we'll know exactly who to blame." - Cassandra Khaw, PC Gamer, referring to Eve's Tranquility server in June 2013 Have you guys ever stop and wonder that the 'solution' to this issue is not just by slapping more processing power to the current one? CCP has already done what many have considered impossible to implement in terms of sustaining that kind of mass player activity on a single shard. http://top500.org/list/2013/11/there is no CCP cluster in this list \His wordign is COMMERCIAL. All the top 500 are military , University or Research machines. That do not need to be cost efficient. Anyway the info on tranq is outdated, I tused to be one of the largest Cluster sin EUROPE like 7 years ago. But the list advances FAST. I say again. CCP servers are good, Eve code is awful and game mechanic is brocken, and CCP know it but enjoy you new structures |

Tebizla
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:46:00 -
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Xortica wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=313959&p=1 Why this topic was closed? I was playing Eve more than 8 years. It was a good and bad time but CCP always do some fixes or try to change something. Last time i see just new cosmetic updates(say hi to new hulls and new structures like ess), HED-GP fight show ccp doesn't care they have their money. Now they can write 'Mass PVP GAME! 4r pilots in one battle!'. CSM doesn't work. So last can i do - cancel my subscriptons, maybe ccp will be back to players, if not - too bad, but they wiil not see my money any more. Server works fine (c) ccp Sorry for bad English, it's not my native language.
Just 1 more thing ...
Can I have your stuff? Obviously not a forum / spy / market alt ... |

Xortica
Horizon Eventus SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:47:00 -
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Tebizla wrote:Xortica wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=313959&p=1 Why this topic was closed? I was playing Eve more than 8 years. It was a good and bad time but CCP always do some fixes or try to change something. Last time i see just new cosmetic updates(say hi to new hulls and new structures like ess), HED-GP fight show ccp doesn't care they have their money. Now they can write 'Mass PVP GAME! 4r pilots in one battle!'. CSM doesn't work. So last can i do - cancel my subscriptons, maybe ccp will be back to players, if not - too bad, but they wiil not see my money any more. Server works fine (c) ccp Sorry for bad English, it's not my native language. Just 1 more thing ... Can I have your stuff? no you can't
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Alice Ituin
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:50:00 -
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Your leadership made stupid mistakes and lost - deal with it! It is well known that big sentry fleets lag the server and you decided to bring 1500 domis. -.- Had you logged off your lag fleet before jumping in your dreads things would have been different. |

Xortica
Horizon Eventus SOLAR FLEET
9
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:53:00 -
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Alice Ituin wrote:Your leadership made stupid mistakes and lost - deal with it! It is well known that big sentry fleets lag the server and you decided to bring 1500 domis. -.- Had you logged off your lag fleet before jumping in your dreads things would have been different.
So carriers with centry - it's not lagged. but our dominixes - do? again who first get in system - win? |

Tebizla
18
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:58:00 -
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Xortica wrote:Tebizla wrote:Xortica wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=313959&p=1 Why this topic was closed? I was playing Eve more than 8 years. It was a good and bad time but CCP always do some fixes or try to change something. Last time i see just new cosmetic updates(say hi to new hulls and new structures like ess), HED-GP fight show ccp doesn't care they have their money. Now they can write 'Mass PVP GAME! 4r pilots in one battle!'. CSM doesn't work. So last can i do - cancel my subscriptons, maybe ccp will be back to players, if not - too bad, but they wiil not see my money any more. Server works fine (c) ccp Sorry for bad English, it's not my native language. Just 1 more thing ... Can I have your stuff? no you can't
But why ... Is it stuck in R3P0? Obviously not a forum / spy / market alt ... |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1489
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:58:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:Anthar Thebess wrote:Someone probably is abusing its position in censorship. This is important issue.
Eve just proved that is not ready for current SOV war. CCP have to buy more servers - or change capitals and supers , and the sentry drone assist mechanic.
You do realize that CCP's Tranquility server is currently the worlds largest and most powerful commercial supercomputer in existence right? "if Skynet ever comes to pass, we'll know exactly who to blame." - Cassandra Khaw, PC Gamer, referring to Eve's Tranquility server in June 2013 Have you guys ever stop and wonder that the 'solution' to this issue is not just by slapping more processing power to the current one? CCP has already done what many have considered impossible to implement in terms of sustaining that kind of mass player activity on a single shard. OP is doing the right thing. So are his friends. CCP has stated they have no immediate plans to change sov. This is obviously not a good decision. How do you effectively change a subscription funded companies bad decision? You do what the OP and friends are doing.
Fixing sov is not just about servers.
In a crowd control situation exit doors are a great idea. If there's a fire the more doors the better. The doors are the servers. However doors don't help if there's no exit signs, they don't help if there are only one or two narrow walkways.
I'm a crowd controller who works in nightclubs and casinos so pardon the examples but basically what I'm trying to say is CCP have a task similar to an evacuation in a packed crowded venue. The fix is going to be based on more than adding better more doors, it's going to need to direct the crowd to behave differently by implementing a whole raft of measures whilst dealing with its patrons increasingly filling its venue past safe levels.
Potentially an impossible task. |

Xortica
Horizon Eventus SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:17:00 -
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If it impossible, why CCP tell about mass pvp etc.as feature? Looks like lie |

Prince Kobol
1357
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:28:00 -
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Xortica wrote: If it impossible, why CCP tell about mass pvp etc.as feature? Looks like lie
Tell me another game where 4000 dudes can play all together in one fight?
Tell me another game where 1000 dudes can all player together in one fight?
Hell tell me another game where 500 dudes can all fight at the same time?
The only other game I am aware of is Planetside 2.
So yeah, mass pvp is pretty much true, just because you are butt hurt doesn't make CCP lairs |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
392
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:33:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:Anthar Thebess wrote:Someone probably is abusing its position in censorship. This is important issue.
Eve just proved that is not ready for current SOV war. CCP have to buy more servers - or change capitals and supers , and the sentry drone assist mechanic.
You do realize that CCP's Tranquility server is currently the worlds largest and most powerful commercial supercomputer in existence right? "if Skynet ever comes to pass, we'll know exactly who to blame." - Cassandra Khaw, PC Gamer, referring to Eve's Tranquility server in June 2013 Have you guys ever stop and wonder that the 'solution' to this issue is not just by slapping more processing power to the current one? CCP has already done what many have considered impossible to implement in terms of sustaining that kind of mass player activity on a single shard. you are both right AND wrong at the same time.
does the eve cluster need more power? no.
why? because it's not able to be used due to the current code running on it having limitations.
it is a powerfull hardware, but unfortunately, missused.
currently, code is single threaded, making it scale with raw CPU power, wich is tied to CP clock.
now, the CPU won't run FASTER.
what CCP need to do is mak code multithreaded AND able to be distributed dynamically among the nodes as needed.
easier said than done, i agree, but they NEED to do it.
they were supposed to introduce tidi to buy time for implementing this, yet 2 years later, tidi is reaching it's limit, yet NOTHING has been done.... this was said by many that they wouldn't move in that area, here we are.... but wait, we have awesome deployable like the ESS, so who cares..... |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2561
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:33:00 -
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CCP are working on a couple of things which will increase the potential of the servers.
Brain in a Box The Destiny Dispatcher.
The information is out there, if you go looking. No release date yet, as they're fairly deep magic. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |

Xortica
Horizon Eventus SOLAR FLEET
9
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:35:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Xortica wrote: If it impossible, why CCP tell about mass pvp etc.as feature? Looks like lie Tell me another game where 4000 dudes can play all together in one fight? Tell me another game where 1000 dudes can all player together in one fight? Hell tell me another game where 500 dudes can all fight at the same time? The only other game I am aware of is Planetside 2. So yeah, mass pvp is pretty much true, just because you are butt hurt doesn't make CCP lairs
there was not 4000 dudes in one fight. it was turkey shoot for titans. Cynosyral inhibitor was designed as non repped. Watch video - you will see it was repairing very long time before die. Tell my this is working game mechanic? |

Xortica
Horizon Eventus SOLAR FLEET
10
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:37:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:CCP are working on a couple of things which will increase the potential of the servers.
Brain in a Box The Destiny Dispatcher.
The information is out there, if you go looking. No release date yet, as they're fairly deep magic. give me link to this magic pls |

dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1068
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:39:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:CCP are working on a couple of things which will increase the potential of the servers.
Brain in a Box The Destiny Dispatcher.
The information is out there, if you go looking. No release date yet, as they're fairly deep magic.
Don't think it's going to improve performance on reinforced nodes. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |

Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1300
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:40:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:they were supposed to introduce tidi to buy time for implementing this, yet 2 years later, tidi is reaching it's limit, yet NOTHING has been done.... this was said by many that they wouldn't move in that area, here we are.... but wait, we have awesome deployable like the ESS, so who cares.....
I don't think nothing is being done, problem is we have no info about status of this work. I think CCP Veritas and whoever else deals with backend "legacy" code is doing his job but whenever question about is raised from community the answer is "not ready yet, NDA, HTFU", etc. I believe community would be quite happy with some periodical updates about what got done, even if effects on our side would be minimal or not existent. Right now we know "legacy code" trumps everything, but FFS how much of that legacy code is still there after years of alleged rewriting? I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Mag's
the united SCUM.
16565
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:41:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Sarah Schneider wrote:Anthar Thebess wrote:Someone probably is abusing its position in censorship. This is important issue.
Eve just proved that is not ready for current SOV war. CCP have to buy more servers - or change capitals and supers , and the sentry drone assist mechanic.
You do realize that CCP's Tranquility server is currently the worlds largest and most powerful commercial supercomputer in existence right? "if Skynet ever comes to pass, we'll know exactly who to blame." - Cassandra Khaw, PC Gamer, referring to Eve's Tranquility server in June 2013 Have you guys ever stop and wonder that the 'solution' to this issue is not just by slapping more processing power to the current one? CCP has already done what many have considered impossible to implement in terms of sustaining that kind of mass player activity on a single shard. OP is doing the right thing. So are his friends. CCP has stated they have no immediate plans to change sov. This is obviously not a good decision. How do you effectively change a subscription funded companies bad decision? You do what the OP and friends are doing. Fixing sov is not just about servers. In a crowd control situation exit doors are a great idea. If there's a fire the more doors the better. The doors are the servers. However doors don't help if there's no exit signs, they don't help if there are only one or two narrow walkways. I'm a crowd controller who works in nightclubs and casinos so pardon the examples but basically what I'm trying to say is CCP have a task similar to an evacuation in a packed crowded venue. The fix is going to be based on more than adding better more doors, it's going to need to direct the crowd to behave differently by implementing a whole raft of measures whilst dealing with its patrons increasingly filling its venue past safe levels. Potentially an impossible task. Oh, you're a bouncer...... That explains so much. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1300
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:41:00 -
[51] - Quote
Xortica wrote:give me link to this magic pls
I may be wrong but this devblog is about some voodoo. It is 2010 devblog :)
I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Prince Kobol
1357
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:43:00 -
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Xortica wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Xortica wrote: If it impossible, why CCP tell about mass pvp etc.as feature? Looks like lie Tell me another game where 4000 dudes can play all together in one fight? Tell me another game where 1000 dudes can all player together in one fight? Hell tell me another game where 500 dudes can all fight at the same time? The only other game I am aware of is Planetside 2. So yeah, mass pvp is pretty much true, just because you are butt hurt doesn't make CCP lairs there was not 4000 dudes in one fight. it was turkey shoot for titans and carriers. Cynosyral inhibitor was designed as non repped. Watch video - you will see it was repairing very long time before die. Tell my this is working game mechanic?
Doesn't matter, there were still 4000 dudes in that fight at one time.
Also you still didn't answer my questions 
Moar tears please  |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2561
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:44:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEJbwZCgNgU&t=1h15m25s
Taking a while, because it requires /all/ the underpinning for skill checks and so on updated.
Building character information is one of the heaviest things that happens, and it happens on every: jump refit ship death undock
Brain in a box offloads that, by having a dedicated server for it. Jump in, and no/little recalculation is needed, with the character info just being handed over in a bundle.
The destiny dispatcher will take the client updates and hands that off to a different thread to deliver. Sure, it's not as multithreaded as it could be, but it avoids some of the more serious issues with multi-threading (Race conditions are difficult to manage, when you have code that's very dependant of what people do.) Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |

Mag's
the united SCUM.
16566
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:48:00 -
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Xortica wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:CCP are working on a couple of things which will increase the potential of the servers.
Brain in a Box The Destiny Dispatcher.
The information is out there, if you go looking. No release date yet, as they're fairly deep magic. give me link to this magic pls "Brain in a Box".
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2125
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:48:00 -
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Man.
Thanks, that felt great.
Do carry on. Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Xortica
Horizon Eventus SOLAR FLEET
12
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:49:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Xortica wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Xortica wrote: If it impossible, why CCP tell about mass pvp etc.as feature? Looks like lie Tell me another game where 4000 dudes can play all together in one fight? Tell me another game where 1000 dudes can all player together in one fight? Hell tell me another game where 500 dudes can all fight at the same time? The only other game I am aware of is Planetside 2. So yeah, mass pvp is pretty much true, just because you are butt hurt doesn't make CCP lairs there was not 4000 dudes in one fight. it was turkey shoot for titans and carriers. Cynosyral inhibitor was designed as non repped. Watch video - you will see it was repairing very long time before die. Tell my this is working game mechanic? Doesn't matter, there were still 4000 dudes in that fight at one time. Also you still didn't answer my questions  Moar tears please 
There is no tears. CCP tell me you can do mass pvp - i joined game. since 2006 was lags like this one side shooting other can't do anything. so nothing change - i don't want pay any more to promises from ccp
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San Guine
Scalar Aurora
0
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:52:00 -
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Could I please have your friends names as well? I'd like to put them next to yours in my contact folder that says "Quiiters" so I can keep a record of who actually quit or who was just ranting. So many green dots....
We all can agree that something has to change regarding this, but stomping your foot like a spoiled brat while pointing fingers at CCP and refusing to come with something constructive yourself? Nah, get in my folder already. |

Makalu Zarya
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
150
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:54:00 -
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don't let the door hit you on the way out |

Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1300
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:55:00 -
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Door is locked. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Xortica
Horizon Eventus SOLAR FLEET
12
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Posted - 2014.01.20 10:56:00 -
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San Guine wrote:Could I please have your friends names as well? I'd like to put them next to yours in my contact folder that says "Quiiters" so I can keep a record of who actually quit or who was just ranting. So many green dots....
We all can agree that something has to change regarding this, but stomping your foot like a spoiled brat while pointing fingers at CCP and refusing to come with something constructive yourself? Nah, get in my folder already. CCP can see messages from cancel subscription window. i have about 6 days on all my accounts till they expire. |
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