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Freakazoid Robot	Posted - 2006.03.25 05:15:00 - [1] Looking at the map there were over 150 ships destroyed today in your home system of S-U8A4. Many more in the surrounding systems. A little bird tells me the VAST majority of those ships belog to Goonfleet/Goonwaffe. Can anyone from the Goonfleet camp comment on this? Who smacked you arround like this right in your backyard? I thought the million frig fleet was untouchable according to what I read on the forums. Guess the reality does not live up to the hype
Ricky WIlliams	Posted - 2006.03.25 05:22:00 - [2] A little bird told me the combined forces of BRS, Penetrate, NBSI, GALKO, and others descided the infestation that are the goonies needed a litte extermination. Guess the bug spray worked Looks like the frig fleet could not stand up to a smaller, but vastly more experenced and armed force.
Werner Bohr	Posted - 2006.03.25 06:26:00 - [3] 150 frigate losses can be paid for with an hour of 0.0 mining. What's your point?
Beaucoup	Posted - 2006.03.25 06:29:00 - [4] Originally by: Ricky WIlliams A little bird told me the combined forces of BRS, Penetrate, NBSI, GALKO, and others descided the infestation that are the goonies needed a litte extermination. Guess the bug spray worked Looks like the frig fleet could not stand up to a smaller, but vastly more experenced and armed force. So that explains why you ran away?
Lorken	Posted - 2006.03.25 07:03:00 - [5] Originally by: Werner Bohr 150 frigate losses can be paid for with an hour of 0.0 mining. What's your point? A quick check of the respective killboards would indicate Goofleet lost alot more than newb frigs today. Seems like they can actually fly battleships now, just not very well evidently
Elaroth	Posted - 2006.03.25 07:05:00 - [6] Edited by: Elaroth on 25/03/2006 07:05:37 Originally by: Beaucoup Originally by: Ricky WIlliams A little bird told me the combined forces of BRS, Penetrate, NBSI, GALKO, and others descided the infestation that are the goonies needed a litte extermination. Guess the bug spray worked Looks like the frig fleet could not stand up to a smaller, but vastly more experenced and armed force. So that explains why you ran away? I didnt realize leaving because you dominated the battlefield so thoroughly there was nothing left of any value to kill was now considered "running away"
Hoochie Minh	Posted - 2006.03.25 08:31:00 - [7] Edited by: Hoochie Minh on 25/03/2006 08:31:24 Originally by: Elaroth Edited by: Elaroth on 25/03/2006 07:05:37 Originally by: Beaucoup Originally by: Ricky WIlliams A little bird told me the combined forces of BRS, Penetrate, NBSI, GALKO, and others descided the infestation that are the goonies needed a litte extermination. Guess the bug spray worked Looks like the frig fleet could not stand up to a smaller, but vastly more experenced and armed force. So that explains why you ran away? I didnt realize leaving because you dominated the battlefield so thoroughly there was nothing left of any value to kill was now considered "running away" It is when you run away, safespot and log off for several hours because you can't face the forces that have come to defend the area. The Goonfleet gang was there ready to continue the fight but instead the hostiles all ran and hid. oh and, posting in an alt thread.
Biosman	Posted - 2006.03.25 10:29:00 - [8] Alt smack FTL.Goonfleet engaged on several occaisions,committing themselves fully to the fight,GJ to all involved BIOSMAN-NBSI:GUARDIAN AND PROTECTOR OF TEH DAMSEL
Calenth	Posted - 2006.03.25 11:10:00 - [9] From our perspective the day was a victory. We lost a large number of frigates and cruisers, and a few t1 fitted battleships, but destroyed a number of t2 fitted battleships, frigates, and cruisers, so we did more economic damage to our attackers than was inflicted on us. At the end of the day, our fleet held the field and our opponents ran, and a quick survey of our internal forums shows several posts talking about our "success" and "win" and how disappointing it was that the hostiles left so early. We did take some losses at a few points that we probably could have avoided, but on the whole, by the measures that we generally prefer to use -- overall economic damage taken and inflicted, troop morale, and control of our space -- our membership appears so far unanimous in considering this series of engagements to be a success, at best a clear victory and at worst no worse than a draw. Much thanks to all involved for giving many of our new members the chance to engage in large-scale pvp. For many of those participating it was their first significant pvp engagement, and they all appeared to enjoy it immensely.
Bowwow Meow	Posted - 2006.03.25 11:16:00 - [10] Originally by: Ricky WIlliams A little bird told me the combined forces of BRS, Penetrate, NBSI, GALKO, and others So thats 2 aliances and two corps (plus others) against a single corp who probably dont have more than 10 players over 6 moths old? And they seem to be claiming victory? GG - hope you all feel like men now

Bippa	Posted - 2006.03.25 13:55:00 - [11] Originally by: Ricky WIlliams A little bird told me the combined forces of BRS, Penetrate, NBSI, GALKO, and others descided the infestation that are the goonies needed a litte extermination. Guess the bug spray worked Looks like the frig fleet could not stand up to a smaller, but vastly more experenced and armed force. Last I checked (this morning), Goonfleet was still in S-U with none of those above corps/alliances to be seen. Who won again? Also, alts.
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.03.25 13:58:00 - [12] 150 frigs cost less than one hac - Gob (my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p)
Biosman	Posted - 2006.03.25 13:58:00 - [13] Originally by: Calenth From our perspective the day was a victory.At the end of the day, our fleet held the field and our opponents ran, omg Calenth how can you possibly justify 140 ships and pods destroyed a success,it was an utterly crushing defeat for you guys.we didnt run we left once we knew you wasnt going to undock till local went down,and you certainly did not hold the field.Three times we rolled over everything you could throw our way and you died over and over and over. BIOSMAN-NBSI:GUARDIAN AND PROTECTOR OF TEH DAMSEL
OhBoyOhBoy	Posted - 2006.03.25 14:08:00 - [14] Originally by: Bowwow Meow So thats 2 aliances and two corps (plus others) against a single corp who probably dont have more than 10 players over 6 moths old? And they seem to be claiming victory? Agreed. Then again if Mike Tyson knocked out a bunch of five year old girls he'd probably claim victory as well. I don't think some people get it. Although I think the guys posting realise they're humiliating themselves a little bit by spinning things this way which is why they're using alts. Although it's a bit of a mystery why they're posting at all. For some of the corps involved even mentioning this stuff has got to have a pretty negative impact on how they're percieved in the game at large. Not exactly playing with the big boys any more, just going after newbies in frigates because you know you can get easy kills. Imagine how many frigates they could have blown up if they'd bought three alliances in decline instead of two!
OhBoyOhBoy	Posted - 2006.03.25 14:24:00 - [15] Originally by: Biosman omg Calenth how can you possibly justify 140 ships and pods destroyed a success. I'm guessing because NBSI used to be a fairly powerful and influential alliance and even they were forced to team up with another alliance and and several other corps to have any kind of impact on Goonfleet. For a corp that everyone regards as a bunch of newbies in frigates that strikes me as a fairly big boost to their reputation and unfortunately a bit of hit for yours. Whether or not you won on paper everyone posting in this thread knows that crowing about 140 kills is meaningless in any context, but especially when you're talking about Goonfleet who rely on cheap suicide ships as a tactic. But seeings as you seem to need a bit of validation..... a hearty congratulations on killing a lot of newbies in Frigates. Good to see NBSI moving on to bigger and better things.
Biosman	Posted - 2006.03.25 15:25:00 - [16] Originally by: OhBoyOhBoy Edited by: OhBoyOhBoy on 25/03/2006 14:33:13 Originally by: Biosman omg Calenth how can you possibly justify 140 ships and pods destroyed a success. I'm guessing because NBSI used to be a fairly powerful and influential alliance and even they were forced to team up with another alliance and and several other corps to have any kind of impact on Goonfleet. For a corp that everyone regards as a bunch of newbies in frigates that strikes me as a fairly big boost to their reputation and unfortunately a bit of hit for yours. But seeings as you seem to need a bit of validation..... a hearty congratulations on killing a lot of newbies in Frigates. Good to see NBSI moving on to bigger and better things. Ah a day old Alt,created possibly to troll threads with the intention of passing yourself off as some kind of machaivellan spin genius.I do believe the kind of tactical warfare Goonfleet employs is part of their offensive/defensive policy.However I need no validation from you and I suspect from your Alt post your combat integrity is somewhat lacking,as is your courage to post openly with your main (cheese please) but congratulations accepted BIOSMAN-NBSI:GUARDIAN AND PROTECTOR OF TEH DAMSEL
TheBuffoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 15:46:00 - [17] Sorry didn't hear what you said, I was busy mining your former asteroids.
Raserina	Posted - 2006.03.25 15:57:00 - [18] lol goonfeet prpare to b removed from syndcate 4 good yestrday was just tasting medicins to come rolol prepare 2b penetrated
Jenna Malone	Posted - 2006.03.25 16:17:00 - [19] Originally by: Raserina lol goonfeet prpare to b removed from syndcate 4 good yestrday was just tasting medicins to come rolol prepare 2b penetrated Oh god, while reading that, my brain just fled through my *******.
Calenth	Posted - 2006.03.25 16:31:00 - [20] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig 150 frigs cost less than one hac Probably the most illustrative point of comparison is that a t1 frig, with fittings, will have a cost equal to or less than the cost of a single t2 drone -- and the frigate is insurable.

fmercury	Posted - 2006.03.25 17:23:00 - [21] Originally by: Biosman Originally by: Calenth From our perspective the day was a victory.At the end of the day, our fleet held the field and our opponents ran, omg Calenth how can you possibly justify 140 ships and pods destroyed a success,it was an utterly crushing defeat for you guys.we didnt run we left once we knew you wasnt going to undock till local went down,and you certainly did not hold the field.Three times we rolled over everything you could throw our way and you died over and over and over. Honestly, I don't see how our 4bs + support loss compared to your 6 battleship and support losses is an "utterly crushing defeat" but i suppose it's a subjective thing anyway But in the end does it really matter who killed the most battleships or whose frigates got wiped out? It was a lot of fun, I haven't seen a good old fashioned fleet battle down here in a while
Zarimax Mishka	Posted - 2006.03.25 18:29:00 - [22] please Please PLEASE keep coming back to S-U. With every operation new EVE players like me learn more and more. We learn how to fight, how to organize, how to follow, and how to play. Frigates are cheap, but the PvP experience is priceless.
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.03.25 18:46:00 - [23] Congrats alt troll, you've made what was (when I left anyway) an awesome fight which we killed a few and lost a LOT and had a great deal of fun in, into a flame fest. It was refreshing to be fighting you guys, instead of dealing with penetrate and their logging off. I was just telling everyone how nice it is to have a fight with people that dont need to troll the forums after every kill. I guess I was wrong.
Freakazoid Robot	Posted - 2006.03.25 19:59:00 - [24] Originally by: KIATolon Congrats alt troll, you've made what was (when I left anyway) an awesome fight which we killed a few and lost a LOT and had a great deal of fun in, into a flame fest. It was refreshing to be fighting you guys, instead of dealing with penetrate and their logging off. I was just telling everyone how nice it is to have a fight with people that dont need to troll the forums after every kill. I guess I was wrong. First of all I was not Alt tooling as you said before. I am not even part of any of the groups involved. I was not there. From the NBSI, and company responses though I dont see anything but honesty coming from there posts. I was just trying to iginte a little friendly debate with my original post. Looks like I must of touched a nerve though by all the hostile responses coming from Goonfleet and company.
TheBuffoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 20:09:00 - [25] Igniting a friendly debate more like posting a thread that should have been strangled in its cradle.
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.03.25 20:10:00 - [26] Quote: Who smacked you arround like this right in your backyard? Yeah you're right. Just after some friendly debate. No **** you're "tooling"... tool
Elaroth	Posted - 2006.03.25 21:07:00 - [27] Originally by: Hoochie Minh Edited by: Hoochie Minh on 25/03/2006 08:31:24 Originally by: Elaroth Edited by: Elaroth on 25/03/2006 07:05:37 Originally by: Beaucoup Originally by: Ricky WIlliams A little bird told me the combined forces of BRS, Penetrate, NBSI, GALKO, and others descided the infestation that are the goonies needed a litte extermination. Guess the bug spray worked Looks like the frig fleet could not stand up to a smaller, but vastly more experenced and armed force. So that explains why you ran away? I didnt realize leaving because you dominated the battlefield so thoroughly there was nothing left of any value to kill was now considered "running away" It is when you run away, safespot and log off for several hours because you can't face the forces that have come to defend the area. The Goonfleet gang was there ready to continue the fight but instead the hostiles all ran and hid. oh and, posting in an alt thread. Ok, seriously goonguys (and fans) enough with this having your cake and eating it too crap...... (1) Why is it that when you suffer a massive deafeat like this you resort to "your ships cost more than ours so even though we lost 150 ships to your eight, the econimic impact is greater for you so victory is ours!!" (which even on its face seems to be an outright lie when you count the actuall loses on the respective killboards) then...... (2) You say we safespot, log, go home, ect....when we will not hang around while you continue to get into newb frig after newb frig......as we kill them over and over again.... and try (mostly in vain I might add) to kill any of us? Isn't there some point where as an attacking force we realize there is no reward for us to hang around anymore? I mean, if killing a newb frig (and podding you repeatedly, which you always seem to leave out in your loss calculations I might add.. I mean clones, possible implants, they have to be worth something right??) is worthless then whats the risk-reward anymore? I.e..its time to leave when we have destroyed anything worthwhile, which is exactly what we did. Anything to the contrary is just spin and an outright lie. (3) you say it took 2 alliances and others to fight you. Yes, it did. That being said we were still outnumbered what, like 230-40? Enough said. (4) you try and spin all this like anyone who posted is a trolling forum rat, yet there are countless threads on these forums where Goonfleet members are bragging about their accomplishments. You cant have it both ways guys.
TheBuffoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 22:12:00 - [28] Yes they can, because goonfleet's standards are incredibly low since most of them are less than 2 months old. Penetrate and NBSI and everyone shooting at GoonFleet on the other hand, and mostly made up of mid to high SP players who have been around for years. So when you go in and pop 150 goonfleet frigates and lose 3 battleships, they can still claim victory. After all, you just lost ships to a bunch of newbies, and killing newbies isn't really something to brag about. I think the moral of the story is that no matter how many GoonFleet you kill, you're still a loser for shooting new players and thinking you're the cat's ass.
Deakin Frost	Posted - 2006.03.25 22:29:00 - [29] Originally by: Freakazoid Robot First of all I was not Alt trolling as you said before. I am not even part of any of the groups involved. I was not there. From the NBSI, and company responses though I dont see anything but honesty coming from there posts. I was just trying to iginte a little friendly debate with my original post. Looks like I must of touched a nerve though by all the hostile responses coming from Goonfleet and company. O rly? So how do you judge what's honest and what not? Do you have an Intarweb Lie Detector, or what? Or are you indeed just an alt spinning stories upside down? I think I'll go with the latter.
Elaroth	Posted - 2006.03.25 22:38:00 - [30] Originally by: TheBuffoon Yes they can, because goonfleet's standards are incredibly low since most of them are less than 2 months old. Penetrate and NBSI and everyone shooting at GoonFleet on the other hand, and mostly made up of mid to high SP players who have been around for years. So when you go in and pop 150 goonfleet frigates and lose 3 battleships, they can still claim victory. After all, you just lost ships to a bunch of newbies, and killing newbies isn't really something to brag about. I think the moral of the story is that no matter how many GoonFleet you kill, you're still a loser for shooting new players and thinking you're the cat's ass. Basically by that logic Goonfleet has already won the game the entire game. If they kill you lose, if you kill them well, you lose too. What a deal! How stupid of me, the answer was right in front of my face all along! All you have to do in the game to have the uber I win button is just be a newb! lol, you poeple amaze me.



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