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Kalhan	Posted - 2003.09.12 16:49:00 - [31] Edited by: Kalhan on 12/09/2003 16:58:17 hah ah aha. Fear doesn't not bring true respect. Neither does being the best at anything. Your idea of respect is matieralist. You will never be truly respected just feared, because true followers of someone respect won't try to overthrow, stab in the back, avoid, or kill you. And in that area of respect you fail and never will succeed one day you will fall victum and all your respect will be lost. When Mo0 is gone they won't be remembered because they were the best respected corp. But because they were just feared not for your so called mastery of industry and PvP. Mostly also as greifters or harrassers even if you didn't really do any of that. When Mo0 is gone you won't be missed but celebrated that you'll all dead.
Daesdemona	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:07:00 - [32] OMG OMG OMG OMG Its s3ri0u$ $7av again! WTF u lamerz are b-ing 2 seri0u$ OMG OMG OMG OMG all your base are belong to us ps. This is just to comment on what we like to call serious-stavros... pps. m0o is feared, I personally respect their accomplishments, they figured out the best way to keep making money and increasing their income... Other than that, Stav, I didn't know you were the last one left.... ----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't" -----------------------------------------------
dalman	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:10:00 - [33] hehe, Stav, you're so funny. One second you say that M0o doesn't exist longer, next second you say m0o are still the best corp. Hmm, have you been to Stain since IE kicked you out? And everytime we've paid your system a visit you've been afk or offline... As for corps I respect... I haven't had any contact with the corps in north of EVE for months, so I can't comment on them... Neither do I have any needs to contact the leading industrial corps... So I have to pay tribute to RUS who has established themself as the "best" PvP corp. Their leading members are damn good and nice to talk to. As for m0o/Sin, some of their members have my respect, but most of them don't. While Oracle is on our KOS list after the jove event, they have all my respect for what they do. I wish there were lot more roleplaying in EVE. And of course my fellow members in Stain. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30
Kalhan	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:11:00 - [34] Sometime in the near future......... BillyBob: Hew newb, you should of played when there was this big corp called the Mo0. Newb: Mo0... lol as in a cow goes mo0. Slowjoe: Yea those guys were mean. Newb: What did they do? BillyBob: Oh they kill all sorts of player and made blockades and stuff. They were really tough. Slowjoe: They had thousands of Battleships that they killed players jumping though gates with. Newb: WOW! They must of been rich and had loads of resources. Slowjoe: No I heard. They cheated and somehow had the ship appear out of nowhere and where able to hyjack peoples ships. BillyBob: Really I heard that they just cheated a way to make loads of isk and buy all the minerals. Newb: I sure am glad they are gone. BillyBob: Yea me too: Slowjoe: I kinda miss all there silly remarks on the forums.
Exel Aurora	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:17:00 - [35] stavr0s, last of the m0ohicans.
The Wretch	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:19:00 - [36] Edited by: The Wretch on 12/09/2003 17:22:45 First Place: School of Applied Knowlege (and the other start up corps) - real dreamers Honorable mentions: Techell - excellent industry folks RONA - simply cool TTI - being able to hold together under extreme hate and attacks on their corporation m0o - for being *******s RUS - for being a little bit of everything in EvE SI - Setec just has plain class about him that I like. EVO - determination and Homo's caps smack talk GRAND PRIZE: Cyberdyne Systems - showing a 5 man active corporation of freelancers can do it all and have more wealth then most mega corporations in the game . edit: Most promising new corporation: KIA The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems CEO
Daesdemona	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:26:00 - [37] Quote: Threat of the week: nothing worthy at the moment Here is one, I'll make sure the next clone you activate is castrated. bah... not that great :( ----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't" -----------------------------------------------
Stavros	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:26:00 - [38] Edited by: Stavros on 12/09/2003 17:28:08 interstellar elite kicked us out? thats news to me, last m0o in stain were j0rt and ywev and zap who bought megathrons from them for 50mil each I think, also they sold stacks of minerals to gauss for a tempest, dirt cheap.... you DID know about that didn't you? also we mined in stain for ages to save up for our dominix bship bp under the full agreement with them.. you DID know about that didn't you? OOOH right you didnt? oh its ok... i'll forgive you for your ill-informed rant. And even though m0o is gone, no corp has come close the the level of mastery of the game that we had, which is why we still..... r0x0r j00 c0x0r! if you want proof that m0o will be remembered look at this recent thing with the mining drones, not a m0o was there, yet 90% of people swear blind m0o was hax0ring with the mining drones... respect us, hate us, love us, want to do stange things with peanut butter to us... its all teh same to me :P -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You"
Cairhien	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:32:00 - [39] I have had good dealings with PIE so they get my vote. It is good to see that Oracle is respected by and large. We started as a freedom fighting corp in beta and have stayed the course. PIE has also.
Kalhan	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:32:00 - [40] Quote: Edited by: Stavros on 12/09/2003 17:28:08 interstellar elite kicked us out? thats news to me, last m0o in stain were j0rt and ywev and zap who bought megathrons from them for 50mil each I think, also they sold stacks of minerals to gauss for a tempest, dirt cheap.... you DID know about that didn't you? also we mined in stain for ages to save up for our dominix bship bp under the full agreement with them.. you DID know about that didn't you? OOOH right you didnt? oh its ok... i'll forgive you for your ill-informed rant. And even though m0o is gone, no corp has come close the the level of mastery of the game that we had, which is why we still..... r0x0r j00 c0x0r! if you want proof that m0o will be remembered look at this recent thing with the mining drones, not a m0o was there, yet 90% of people swear blind m0o was hax0ring with the mining drones... respect us, hate us, love us, want to do stange things with peanut butter to us... its all teh same to me :P awwwwww. Starvos is really just looking for love. Everyone give him a big hug. Nobody but you are going to remember or care about anything you just said. Your rep and actions blinded all of that. Its all the same to you because its all you got. Isn't tekforce still Mo0.
Lethargy	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:35:00 - [41] First.... Sinister - Comic value of watching them kill their own leaders alt by mistake deserves a vote of appreciation. I dont think I have laughed that much in a long time..... Second.... The Borg Comic value of seeing Sinister run like all the hounds of hell were on their heels and not just...... 12 impairors...... Great value for money....
Archa	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:36:00 - [42] Damn, i thought we were everywhere. at the moment most corps lost my respect for doing stupid stuff:). Corp that still has my respect is RUS for being uber active in combat and m0o for still being *******s:) that's about it:)
Exel Aurora	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:38:00 - [43] Quote: Isn't tekforce still Mo0. Heard he was taken down by some no name corporation in Fountain last night.
Daesdemona	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:39:00 - [44] Edited by: Daesdemona on 12/09/2003 17:39:28 Quote: Quote: Isn't tekforce still Mo0. Heard he was taken down by some no name corporation in Fountain last night. Cornexant Inc. is not a no-name corp. We just don't go screaming on the forums when we kill people. ----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't" -----------------------------------------------
Kalhan	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:40:00 - [45] Kinda funny if you thin about it. All that Mo0 Acomplish will mean nothing. Just a memory in Starvos' head. No industry masters, no PvP champs. Just mean pirates(if even that). If you think about it in the end they really did lose.
Kalhan	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:45:00 - [46] Quote: Edited by: Daesdemona on 12/09/2003 17:39:28 Quote: Quote: Isn't tekforce still Mo0. Heard he was taken down by some no name corporation in Fountain last night. Cornexant Inc. is not a no-name corp. We just don't go screaming on the forums when we kill people. What do you mean taken down??? Wouldn't he still be in the corp if he died?
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:48:00 - [47] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 12/09/2003 17:51:38 Interesting discussion, For power, achievement and mastery of PVP gank-state-of-the-art IÆd say; RUS Corp For building a decent reputation and industrial base, British Space Corp Rona Corp Hadean Drive Yards Oberon For waging a successful high profile war and behaving very professionally in negotiations, Evolution and Xanadu For roleplay and playing up to the game background, Oracle And (yep) PIE/Praetorians For random gutsy fun, Naginata (ex Sharks with laser beams) Space Invaders For fighting hard to bring a news service to Eve, Big Bang Burger Bar And for giving me a cause to truly get my teeth into, Taggart Transdimensional (Your VA council stabbing-up routine still gives me shivers down my spine. It was fantastic high drama and brutal intrigue rolled into one. Has really made my game and elevated this conflict to a geo-political campaign of truly varied scope.) Love and peace JF Public Forum
Damaclease	Posted - 2003.09.12 17:57:00 - [48] my 2 isks Evo: they are good guys and actually do a decent PvP and organisation Techell: are the business men of eve and their word actually hold some weight. Mo0 (early release) : where actually nice guys (even though they would pod you) and the number of times i would just chat to j0rt was great, its now deteriorated into smack talk There are lots of smaller corps each with their own strength and weaknesses. Dama
Presidio	Posted - 2003.09.12 18:07:00 - [49] In my opinion every corp has those few members, that really make it shine. But you have to give it to m0o, for the longest time they were such an easy target, but still they managed to influence how EVE worked. No other corporation has been attacked by GM controled battleships, as I can recall. You can hate them all you want but, they do deserve respect, even though they are pirates. It is sad that most of the original members of m0o have already quit, and that today, m0o is not as skilled as it once used to be. Cornexant, is one of the first corporations that lost their battleship to m0o, and I think that deserves some respect. - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
dalman	Posted - 2003.09.12 18:21:00 - [50] Stav, don't worry. Though you know I wasn't part of SA back then, I know very well of the history of SA and m0o. And yes, you stayed true to the agreements that was made. Kinda strange way you've gone now... From SA friend and RUS enemies to SA enemies and RUS friends... So, you wasn't kicked out? I guess you docked and logged then. "Never forget first time I went into stain and had 8 cruisers on my ass in 5 mins.." I'm just questioning how much contact you've had with us when you state that "Stain alliance corps are a joke". I've never seen you since the days when I was in an Osprey, and that is a long time. And I haven't heard of any fight between you and a SA member. Quote: if you want proof that m0o will be remembered look at this recent thing with the mining drones, not a m0o was there, yet 90% of people swear blind m0o was hax0ring with the mining drones... hmm, I wonder why... May it be because "your boys" start bragging on the forum about how much they own, when it in fact was RUS? I've said several times that RUS probably are the best PvP corp, so I have no problem to say the words "I was owned". Cause I didn't die when jumping in, but when warping to gangmember who was caught when jumping in. Cause I'm here for PvP. And I would much rather join a fight I will not survive, than just stay and hear how corp members go down. And that was how we lost 6 battleships(the other 4 was lost later).You may call it foolish. I call it fun. I'm not selling my resources on E-bay, I rather use them to have fun. And if you gave some of your ISK to corpmates, they wouldn't have to stay docked. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30
Femme Fatal	Posted - 2003.09.12 18:28:00 - [51] Going Limp for its roleplaying.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2003.09.12 18:28:00 - [52] I'm glad dalman is on my side. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Stavros	Posted - 2003.09.12 18:58:00 - [53] ah another anti m0o ***ing contest, it was infact sinister that stayed docked, I was unaware of any m0o in the area at the time and at the very most their couldv'e been one or two.. but yet again its m0o this m0o that... who was saying what about us not being remembered again? -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You"*
Homo Erectus	Posted - 2003.09.12 19:17:00 - [54] Xanadu - their understanding of politics in eve is unrivaled. to the trained eye, TTI are lucky newbies compared to Xan. O.E.C. - they are masters of strategy and their members are 110% dedicated to the their team. RUS - for combination of pvp skills and industrial strength. oracle - I haven't gotten to fight them, or even interact with them, but I know they're there. I know they've been there forever, and they are sticking to it. 2 corps I am going to put on the list with the title 'posers who shouldnt really be on the list' TTI - although they completely suck at PVP, have a completely anal worthless peasant as a leader, and they sleep with 12 year old derelicts who must be relyed upon to save them from others... I must give them props for having a good website and corp structure system. That, and their luck, made them attractive to a lot of newbies. m0o - I know they are smart, and worthy tacticians. They had dedicated members and people who were not morons. They are good at finding decent ship outfits, good places to wreak havok, and good at keeping it real to themselves. But, they were very poor at keeping it real to everyone else. All of their pluses were voided out by the fact that I have watched their members knowingly use exploits to win. This makes them posers and stupid newbies. HOMO I AM SOMEBODY...SOMEBODY WHO SAYS WHAT NO ONE ELSE IN CAREBEAR REALM DARE SAY, YOUR A GREIFER WHO IS A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND! YOU NEED TO WAKE FROM YOUR DILUSION THAT EVERYONE LIKES YOU AND THAT YOUR THE MASTER OF EVE. - fanboy, Q1 2004
dalman	Posted - 2003.09.12 19:19:00 - [55] Edited by: dalman on 12/09/2003 19:36:42 Arrghh, it's impossible to argue with you. As I said, one second you're saying that m0o is the greatest corp and next second you state that m0o no longer exists and it's all Sinister now. And, no, it's not anti-m0o from my side. Most of you are ok, and I agree you'll be remembered. It's the guys in Sinister that gets me going. But I thought they were "your boys" too. edit Ouh, I see I used the word corpmates in my post, sry for that. I meant the guys in Sinister. But as I said, I'm under the impression they are your corpmates too. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30
Einheriar Ulrich	Posted - 2003.09.13 01:41:00 - [56] Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 13/09/2003 01:41:31 Well my incitament to play this game was the RP aspect, and for that i tip my hat to PIE.... Worthy opponents and good roleplayers. I will also like to give a big hand to all the "Good" pirat corps, for making my EVE existence that more fun But generally i wish to aplaud all those who make an effort, a big "CHEER" to you, and ill see you around the stars somewhere. So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar. **Minion Of VOTF**
Arathmon	Posted - 2003.09.13 03:34:00 - [57] There are several corporations that I respect highly: m0o: They have only four active members now, and are still one of the most feared names in Eve. Sin/RUS: I don't like them, but they are still worthy of respect for their PvP prowess. Evol: They kick Sin/RUS/m0o around on a rather regular basis, including anyone else they feel like. What can I say other than that I am envious. In fact... I would say I respect all the major players in all the major alliances out there. Thank you all for actually doing something with the game rather than relying on CCP to implement some slow and semi-interesting storyline. --------------- I used to be in the FA. I like cookies. Eve Radio is teh pwn.
Golan Trevize	Posted - 2003.09.13 12:11:00 - [58] OOC Well Oracle of course witout u guys this game would have very little content for me :) ... also Jericho Fraction while i dont have the patience to read all of Jades LOOONG posts i find those that i do read very interessting , also Athules visions they really ***** me up keep sleeping on those quafe cans :) The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships.
Tassadar Beta	Posted - 2003.09.13 12:53:00 - [59] Most respected corps eh? Well why are most of the biggest corps listed. I would say: Kusari Systems Zanjitsu Polaris
Kalshrith	Posted - 2003.09.13 15:34:00 - [60] To echo some earlier comments, I am a strong believer that individuals are what gives a corp its 'aura' of respect. I've encountered good and bad peeps in nearly all corps (or guilds/clans in other games). So while seeing someones Corp tag sets my framework, its still my own interactions with individuals that determines my respect. The Original Praetoran's had and still have my utmost respect. When most others would have tossed in the hat and taken the easy path, they stuck to their ideals and as a result have become far more than they were. Now combined as PIE Inc, they continue to deserve and recieve respect. RUS have always struck me as a 'Good team', I've had little personal interaction with them but what I have and from everything I know about them; I both respect and admire their attitude, tenacity and determination. If I was Russian and not already in the best Corp (for me) Id want to be RUS. All members of formal Alliances deserve some respect. Managing to hold together anything that contains multiple groups with many different goals etc is never easy. The appearance of such Alliances such as Fountain, Stain, Catch and others really helped to establish and kick off the EVE political framework. Love or Hate them; Mo0, M3G4 and other such 'Pirate' Corps have contributed in so many ways to the game that only the truly blind or self obsessed could not see it. Contribution is not and does not have to be generally a 'positive' aspect. The evolution of EVE game mechanics alone has strongly been influenced by such groups, either via itentification of exploits, bugs or simply bad game design/flawed mechanics. Lastly, all the POLARIS team; having many times in many games been part of player contributed help/support/guide groups myself I know its totally thankless and its only true reward is the feeling one gives ones self for helping another. Thumbs up to you all. Cheers, KalShrith. P.S While it maybe bad form to mention ones own Corp, if it wasnt for Oracle I would not be playing EVE at all. Online family, it goes beyond Respect. =) -- " .. the actions of our past .. shape the events of our future..**

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