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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:26:00 -
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I was recently [Xmas] gifted an Astero and ... well, other than exploration [no thanks] I'm not sure what role suits it best. I spend most of my time looking for non-consensual engagements etc. Any ideas on appropriate fits?
Thanks. http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1371
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:55:00 -
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I would probably put a core probe launcher and use it to hunt/trap explorers, or possibly try to catch haulers or salvage ships in w/space. And probably to fight a majority of other frigates, if you can engage them. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
110
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:57:00 -
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Batelle wrote:I would probably put a core probe launcher and use it to hunt/trap explorers, or possibly try to catch haulers or salvage ships in w/space. And probably to fight a majority of other frigates, if you can engage them.
Sounds like some time in Low Sec is on the agenda... thanks!  http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |

Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
68
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:28:00 -
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Its not very good in straight up PVP but you can fit up a fit to mess with folks, that being said.
[Astero, ASSTERRO]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Core Probe Launcher (Core Scanner Probe I)
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I True Sansha Warp Scrambler
2x Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II
Small Anti-Explosive Pump II 2x Small Trimark Armor Pump II
5x Hobgoblin II 5x Hornet EC-300 5x Warrior II
Which only gets you like 130 DPS...its not a good PVP ship with 0 damage bonuses. The Stratios is Muc
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
110
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:41:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Its not very good in straight up PVP but you can fit up a fit to mess with folks, that being said.
[Astero, ASSTERRO]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Core Probe Launcher (Core Scanner Probe I)
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I True Sansha Warp Scrambler
2x Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II
Small Anti-Explosive Pump II 2x Small Trimark Armor Pump II
5x Hobgoblin II 5x Hornet EC-300 5x Warrior II
Which only gets you like 130 DPS...its not a good PVP ship with 0 damage bonuses. The Stratios is built much better for PVP imo.
[Stratios, Strat]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Core Probe Launcher (Sisters Core Scanner Probe) 3x Focused Medium Pulse Laser II (Scorch M)
2x Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I (Navy Cap Booster 400)
2x Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II 2x Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
5x Hobgoblin II 5x Hammerhead II 5x Vespa EC-600 4x Bouncer II 4x Garde II 5x Hammerhead II 5x Warrior II
That will get you like 600DPS @ 30K Optimal with a 90K tank if you have slaves and skills. You can squeeze more DPS by fitting a 4th Turret as well, and projection says nearly 700DPS if the stars align and your drones and you are hitting optimally all the time.
hell yes. much thanks.
http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1372
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:42:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Its not very good in straight up PVP but you can fit up a fit to mess with folks, that being said. [Astero, ASSTERRO]
because when you're going to spend 750m on a pvp ship, you should make sure its a frigate with 130dps  "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
110
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:43:00 -
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Batelle wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:Its not very good in straight up PVP but you can fit up a fit to mess with folks, that being said. [Astero, ASSTERRO]
because when you're going to spend 750m on a pvp ship, you should make sure its a frigate with 130dps 
ohnoz. not spending that on a frigate. interesting ship though hahaha http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |

Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
69
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:48:00 -
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Batelle wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:Its not very good in straight up PVP but you can fit up a fit to mess with folks, that being said. [Astero, ASSTERRO]
because when you're going to spend 750m on a pvp ship, you should make sure its a frigate with 130dps 
Not everyone is space poor...and you can't get much more out of it I mean you can squeeze another 20 or so DPS with a Damage Amp but you lose survivability. To each their own. |

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
110
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:52:00 -
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Ladies ladies ... you're both pretty!! http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
110
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:55:00 -
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I can afford to spend 750,000,000 ISK on a frigate. I can not afford to LOSE a 750,000,000 ISK frigate; ISK efficiency etc ... http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |
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Zarnak Wulf
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
1490
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:59:00 -
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Kane Rizzel Blog
I found this fit interesting. The rigs and two of the low slots are a question mark but the concept is readily apparent. |

Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
69
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:01:00 -
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Thanks!
But you can't really fit these ships to PVP without using some faction stuff though. CPU is way to short IMO.
[Astero, ASSTERRO]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Core Probe Launcher (Core Scanner Probe I)
2x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Warp Disruptor I Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I 2x Small Trimark Armor Pump I
5x Hobgoblin II 5x Hornet EC-300 5x Warrior II
~150 DPS about 5K less EHP. (which is about 33% difference in EHP)
Couple hundred mil cheaper though. (may need a CPU implant depending on skills though.) |

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
110
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:07:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Thanks!
[Astero, ASSTERRONOTFaction]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Core Probe Launcher (Core Scanner Probe I)
2x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Warp Disruptor I Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I 2x Small Trimark Armor Pump I
5x Hobgoblin II 5x Hornet EC-300 5x Warrior II
~150 DPS about 5K less EHP. (which is about 33% difference in EHP)
Couple hundred mil cheaper though. (may need a CPU implant depending on skills though.)
CPU on these ships is kind of **** IMHO.
Thank you for the insight... what I've gathered so far is that pound-for-pound the Stratios is better suited to PvP than an Astero. Maybe I'll just sell it and build some more Assault Frigates :D http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |

Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
69
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:14:00 -
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Ya thats what I would do. I mean it can be an awesome little exploration frig though, with a bit better survival and damage projection than say a Covops ship, but when it comes to putting a gank on it falls a bit short. |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1375
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:22:00 -
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote: Thank you for the insight... what I've gathered so far is that pound-for-pound the Stratios is better suited to PvP than an Astero. Maybe I'll just sell it and build some more Assault Frigates :D
Its mostly that the stratios can engage more things by virtue of being a cruiser while still being cloaky. Specifically, it holds the line better against other combat ships (including ratters), while the astero has issues taking on such ships. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
110
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:25:00 -
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Batelle wrote:Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote: Thank you for the insight... what I've gathered so far is that pound-for-pound the Stratios is better suited to PvP than an Astero. Maybe I'll just sell it and build some more Assault Frigates :D
Its mostly that the stratios can engage more things by virtue of being a cruiser while still being cloaky. Specifically, it holds the line better against other combat ships (including ratters), while the astero has issues taking on such ships.
Noted. Anyone wanna buy an Astero?  http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |

Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
70
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:33:00 -
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Batelle wrote:Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote: Thank you for the insight... what I've gathered so far is that pound-for-pound the Stratios is better suited to PvP than an Astero. Maybe I'll just sell it and build some more Assault Frigates :D
Its mostly that the stratios can engage more things by virtue of being a cruiser while still being cloaky. Specifically, it holds the line better against other combat ships (including ratters), while the astero has issues taking on such ships.
Eh its mostly because Stratios actually has bonuses for weapon damage projection being able to sit out at 30K optimal with Scorch is pretty awesome...especially when you actually have CPU to fit tackle so things can get to you. If the Astero had similar bonuses to laser range, and drone damage it would be a lot more attractive for PVP.
But size projection is also a huge bonus too. |

Praxis Ginimic
Vessels of the Line Bask of Fail
755
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:39:00 -
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I'll give ya 20mil |

Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
645
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:20:00 -
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:I was recently [Xmas] gifted an Astero and ... well, other than exploration [no thanks] I'm not sure what role suits it best. I spend most of my time looking for non-consensual engagements etc. Any ideas on appropriate fits?
Thanks. high slot cov ops cloak mids = scram, MWD, web, small cap booster 2. lows= DC, ENAM, small armour repper times 2 rigs= small auxillary nano pump times 3.
cov ops hot drop tackler. uniquely good for this role.
here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |

Squatdog
State Protectorate Caldari State
122
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:35:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Its not very good in straight up PVP but you can fit up a fit to mess with folks, that being said.
[Astero, ASSTERRO]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Core Probe Launcher (Core Scanner Probe I)
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I True Sansha Warp Scrambler
2x Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II
Small Anti-Explosive Pump II 2x Small Trimark Armor Pump II
5x Hobgoblin II 5x Hornet EC-300 5x Warrior II
Which only gets you like 130 DPS...its not a good PVP ship with 0 damage bonuses. The Stratios is built much better for PVP imo.
That is a truely godawful fit and you should slap yourself for putting a (useless) 200mm plate on a pimpfit faction frig. You can fit it with a 400mm plate and still get 170dps or use double faction reps and have a stupid active tank.
The Astero shines with surprise buttsexing people in FW plexes and belts. If you want to gank carebear site runners, use a Stratios or Gnosis.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
94
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Posted - 2014.01.25 17:46:00 -
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So go farm your frigates them m8. and if there is more than 1 have fun YOLO (ps it is **** for anything larger than a frig and loses to punishers. and yes the stratios is awesome) |

Dato Koppla
PillowFighters Inc Stealth Wear Inc.
479
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Posted - 2014.01.26 02:31:00 -
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Everyone seems to be posting fits with buffer tanks but you really shouldn't buffer tank your Astero, because of your low dps anything that has an active tank can tank/kill your drones and then chip away at your buffer till you die. Also I wouldn't use a probe launcher on a PvP Astero unless you specifically plan on killing people in Relic/Data/DED sites but relic/data guys are usually warp core stabbed and in low level DEDs you have to worry about rats/gate keys etc. I don't fly Asteros but many of my corpmates fly a fit similar to this:
[Astero, PvP]
Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II
Coreli C-Type 1MN Afterburner Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
You can pimp/unpimp the fit as you see fit, I went for around the same cost of the hull in modules in the stats I thought mattered most, with this fit you can take on most frigs 1 on 1 and they won't be able to break you and you can slowly chip away their buffer or break their active tank with your neut. Be sure to watch your drones and keep a flight of ECM drones if things go south. |

Degnar Oskold
Justified Chaos
76
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:21:00 -
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Astero is amazingly good at PVP because you can pick your fights. I've killed 101 ships so far with the Astero and only lost 3 of my own. 2 losses were in the first week when I was trying to figure out how to use it and the 3rd was due to my own stupidity and forgetting that I had ECM drones. |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1565
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:38:00 -
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Degnar Oskold wrote:Astero is amazingly good at PVP because you can pick your fights. I've killed 101 ships so far with the Astero and only lost 3 of my own. 2 losses were in the first week when I was trying to figure out how to use it and the 3rd was due to my own stupidity and forgetting that I had ECM drones.
I am stealing your fit.  "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Gh0stBust3rs
Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
28
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Posted - 2014.02.05 03:13:00 -
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[Astero, Adaptive Nano Plating II Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Warp Scrambler II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Small Focused Pulse Laser II,Scorch S
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I Small Anti-Kinetic Pump I Small Anti-Thermic Pump I
Hobgoblin II x10 Hornet EC-300 x5
http://o.smium.org/loadout/dna/33468:448:1306:2048:3041:4027;2:4405;2:6003:11578:31009:31021:31033:12563:2456;4:23707;5::
Thats missing a hob on that DNA but 180-210 dps total. |

Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders
156
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:36:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:Everyone seems to be posting fits with buffer tanks but you really shouldn't buffer tank your Astero, because of your low dps anything that has an active tank can tank/kill your drones and then chip away at your buffer till you die. Also I wouldn't use a probe launcher on a PvP Astero unless you specifically plan on killing people in Relic/Data/DED sites but relic/data guys are usually warp core stabbed and in low level DEDs you have to worry about rats/gate keys etc. I don't fly Asteros but many of my corpmates fly a fit similar to this:
[Astero, PvP]
Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II
Coreli C-Type 1MN Afterburner Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
You can pimp/unpimp the fit as you see fit, I went for around the same cost of the hull in modules in the stats I thought mattered most, with this fit you can take on most frigs 1 on 1 and they won't be able to break you and you can slowly chip away their buffer or break their active tank with your neut. Be sure to watch your drones and keep a flight of ECM drones if things go south.
Dual rep cap boosted Astero is funny as hell (in a not so funny way if it scrams you). Fun to fly as well because of the number of active mods on such a small ship. BLFOX is currently recruiting |
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