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Jaschar Verge
Dark Aether Operations
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:52:00 -
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First, I wanna start with the fact that I *did* search the forums for similar posts.
It's a simple proposition. Many of us are familiar with the cost of a wardec. And new players/corporations are punished for being new. My idea is simple. When you declare war against a corporation, it costs, let's say (picking a round number) 40mil. Your new wardec fee will be, let's say (picking another round number here) 100mil. That will last about a week as it gradually falls down to 70mil. Another week passes, it falls to 55mil (see the trend? It's got a half-life of a week +40m) If you declare another war, it'll rise exponentially higher, so if you declare one at 70m, it'll raise to (another round number here) 120m. I feel this should reduce the number of griefer-wardecs. We would need a method to prevent people from simply flashing their corps, yes, but I do feel like I got something here. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:55:00 -
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Your idea punishes new players and corporations.
Oh god. |
Jaschar Verge
Dark Aether Operations
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:19:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Your idea punishes new players and corporations.
Can you expand on that a bit? |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:21:00 -
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Your idea makes war less accessible to new players and corporations.
Oh god. |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:46:00 -
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so the only ppl who can declare war are rich ppl...or older players.
u also seem to think declaring many wars at once is a bad thing, why?
There are no vets in EVE. Only varying levels of Noobery. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:27:00 -
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FYI
- Wardecs currently cost 50 million ISK + (x players in defending corp * 500,000) or something. Alliance war decs start around 500 to 1 billion ISK (I'm at work so I am working from the top of my head).
- Wardec costs already DOUBLE for each week they are active.
- Only the defending corp can hire allies.
The odds are already stacked in the defender's favor. The fact that many corps crumble under a war dec has more to do with their ineptness than anything else.
One way or another, Darwin shall claim his own.
Edit: also this been brought up in the distant past.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:59:00 -
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+1 for doing research... though I don't agree with your idea.
It punishes new and old players alike. Not every EvE vet is sitting on a pile of Isk, and old vets are likely to have hit that war-dec button a couple extra times.
So, not awesome. |
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:01:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:FYI
- Wardecs currently cost 50 million ISK + (x players in defending corp * 500,000) or something. Alliance war decs start around 500 to 1 billion ISK (I'm at work so I am working from the top of my head).
- Wardec costs already DOUBLE for each week they are active.
- Only the defending corp can hire allies.
The odds are already stacked in the defender's favor. The fact that many corps crumble under a war dec has more to do with their ineptness than anything else.
One way or another, Darwin shall claim his own.
Edit: also this been brought up in the distant past.
I think they took out the alliance cost? I could be mistaken, I thought it was based on members active over 50. |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.01.25 04:51:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:FYI
- Wardecs currently cost 50 million ISK + (x players in defending corp * 500,000) or something. Alliance war decs start around 500 to 1 billion ISK (I'm at work so I am working from the top of my head).
- Wardec costs already DOUBLE for each week they are active.
- Only the defending corp can hire allies.
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indeed. **** the sandbox
There are no vets in EVE. Only varying levels of Noobery. |
Jaschar Verge
Dark Aether Operations
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Posted - 2014.01.25 12:55:00 -
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It's nice to get logical feedback, even if it is all negative (though its on-topic, so I digg it).
I want a new player or old player to pay the same or less as they normally do. I want war-mongerers to pay more. If you're having a war once a month, it should be quite cheap.
It was asked why I'm against multiple wardecs - maybe that's best answered with another question, when has a multi-sided wardec been an advantage outside when your victims are defenseless?
To be completely honest, I don't see wardec as anything more than a bribe to CONCORD (not that I'm claiming CCP corruption) to look the other way. Yes, it would be nice to see 1 miner corp call for war against another miner corp but there's 2 problems there:
1: many miners stick to NPC corps (because it doesn't hurt them...that's a problem for another post but I reiterate, I've done my research and there's a reason I *didn't* make a post about that...*******, some people don't check).
2: I simply don't see that happening in highsec, lowsec, it makes sense but wardecs aren't as necessary in low-nullsec. Note: *as* necessary.
But that's just one example. I'm sure you all have your own reasons for war.
I'm told this was touched on by another post. I must've missed that. Since there's a lot of lively logical feedback, I'm going to leave this up. |
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