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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
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Posted - 2014.01.26 19:58:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Do you think this idea has merit or is it pie in the sky ending up the same way as WiS?
The idea has merit, the implementation however seems questionable, considering the hamsters are seriously overworked as it is...
CCP: "We know what's best for the game, so you can't have any options....." |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
830
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Posted - 2014.01.26 20:05:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:It'll become the new WH space, WH space will become the new null space, null will become the new lowsec, lowsec will become the new highsec, and highsec will become a forest populated by boars where you can level up in complete safety without any worry of pvp. A new race will also be featured: Space Pandas.
******* pandas...
"You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
Agonising Ecstacy
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.26 20:13:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:Agonising Ecstacy wrote:Would people build these stargates to new space if they took, for example, 4 aeons and an avatar as components and they removed the ability to build new supercaps at the same time? I'm imagining the required ships flying somewhere in space, docking with some pre-built superstructure, and physically becoming the gate.
What would the economic benefits have to be to build a stargate to get enough people OUT of the supers? and what would CCP have to do to compensate the effectively unusable skill points in the super pilot? Could supercap proliferation be put into reverse like this? Any interest or terri-bad idea? This is a pretty interesting idea for reducing supercapital numbers. However, if this new space ends up being too similar to currently available areas of space, then I don't think you'll encounter a lot of people who are willing to commit to such a goal with a trade-off like that. Success for this vision is entirely dependent on CCP's ability to deliver on it. If they fail this, the situation has potential to harm EVE as much as Incarna did. Unlike walking in stations, however, development this time around seems to be sensibly focused.
I'm going off the idea - not because I don't like it, but because its got some fundamental flaws...
Whenever any imagined stargate-building comes out, no matter how its achieved - then I would **imagine** it costing some multiple of a titan hull - i.e. x-hundreds of billions to build ( x > 1 !) So I don't think that parking a titan and moms itself is too expensive. (You'd also get your sell your mods - which in the case of my Nyx are worth more than the ship itself.)
But as mom/super numbers reduce you are making the existing supers (that you don't own - and your alliance/bloc doesn't control) more powerful, more useful, more valuable assets. Probably/possibly for your current and future enemies. This is what needs compensation, and I'm not sure that that can be worked out - because the the compensation would need to scale at a rate of 1 over the number of supers left in game.
The first guys to sacrifice their supers effectively pay the least (as their supers are worth the least) in order to keep getting people to do it, there would have to be some strategic advantage given to the builders. But by EVEs nature - the first people to do it, will make the most, and people that follow, will make less and less. That's not a golden rule I know, but its the general trend.
So these two things are going in opposite directions - the perceived cost increases as more stargates are built, and the benefits very likely reduce. If some clever soul can think of a way to reverse one or other of those trends then the idea has merits, else - not-so-much. |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
830
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Posted - 2014.01.26 20:22:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:push button/receive bacon.
Where is this button of which you speak?
"You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
george harries
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2014.01.26 22:51:00 -
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Picking up on the Titan to build a stargate thing - yes remaining supers become a bigger issue - you could always build in some sort of obsolescence so that they gradually start to become....rubbish, maybe their modules don't switch on regularly or not to full effect, drones miss targets etc....then there will be a clamor to use or lose them or they become useless....maybe even build in a reduction of the reprocessing value as well over time so that there is an incentive to get rid of them 
Of course, idiots like me who have spent weeks training up the skills will be apoplectic at the loss of our beloved "I Win" ships ( and skillpoints no longer used)  |
Tarpedo
Incursionista
394
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Posted - 2014.01.26 22:59:00 -
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CCP could open a bakery considering amount and quality of cakes we see on fanfest. |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
Forsaken Asylum
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Posted - 2014.01.27 02:57:00 -
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RAIN Arthie wrote:Yarda Black wrote:How about adding a hacking thing to these new stargates.
You find one and have a dude in your gang hacking the gate-acces so you can jump everybody in and kill all the carebears in there or mess up the baby Nyx cooking in that "private" system. OR we could lock the gate down leaving you on the other side exposed for an hour while you hack it open :)
Prefer to see any player built/owned jumpgate have the same issues and needs as POS towers... they need fuel and they can be killed.
Can't have a proper Apocalypse without "The Man", Johnny Cash. -áTrue story.
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Hal Morsh
Digital Alchemist
The Fire Nation Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2014.01.27 06:46:00 -
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I heard the gates required the implants as well.
Problem is this technology is being stolen from "pirates" who are apparently doing "legal" research and "CONCORD" is telling us to stay the hell out.
I'm going to guess the empires may already be there. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.27 06:54:00 -
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Would prefer the POS revamp came before this new space thing but, whatever it could be something cool.
This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
216
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Posted - 2014.01.27 14:31:00 -
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I have it on good authority that passing through one of the new gates will transfer your account to the Chinese server. |
Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
121
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Posted - 2014.01.27 14:32:00 -
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The sparkle in my avatar came out of one of these new gates
Ive been following it ever since |
Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2014.01.27 18:08:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Would prefer the POS revamp came before this new space thing but, whatever it could be something cool.
It's possible that, in order to even get around to building stargates, we would need a new POS system to begin with. |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.01.27 18:30:00 -
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Quote:16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread.
22. Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.
The idea for expanding the Eve universe by adding more systems/gates has been put forward over and over with different iterations and visions. If you have your own new incarnation of it to put forward, please detail a post about it and post in the Features & Ideas Discussion subforum.
A vague "wouldn't it be cool if..." prompt on this topic unfortunately is not constructive, particularly in General Discussion. Thread locked.
ISD LackOfFaith
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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