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Trigoor	Posted - 2006.03.28 23:57:00 - [1] I read that TS and SA are war. What exactly does this mean? and what do these wars look like (in general). Is TS going to gather all their pilots and all there most powerful ships in the next couple days and move in mass into there enemies space and try to take over all of SA's territory and occupy their stations? Will this invasion force be met by all of SA's pilots and best ships. Will they fight it out in some massive fleet action until one side has been wiped out or retreats? Or is it more like a war of attrition? Is it isolated small raids taking down weak points? Does an attacking force gain strength as it succeeds so it becomes like a snowball rolling down hill or does it exhaust itself. Are these fights ever to the death or does it become to expensive even for the side which is winning to continue. Because of time zone differences do both sides need to be on alert or have defensive forces ready 24 hours a day?
Zubenelgenubi	Posted - 2006.03.29 00:01:00 - [2] Edited by: Zubenelgenubi on 29/03/2006 00:01:47 All sensible questions. Maybe you should join one of the corps involved in the conflict to get a taste of what its like :D Decide which side you would like to fight for and get in on the ground level.
Nicholas Barker	Posted - 2006.03.29 00:03:00 - [3] Well, usually we log off at any sign of a threat, and then go to the forums and impersonate people, and generally smack people. It's a whole barrel of laughs. ----------------- Where'd me pod go?
Amira	Posted - 2006.03.29 00:07:00 - [4] Tribal Souls will most likely not mass a large fleet and attack SA. I don't think they can really compete in fleet combat. They also can't take over our stations, because all stations in Stain region are NPC stations. So there's no need for us to defend. What has happened in the past, as shown by both SA and TS videos, is that we attack with squadrons into TS space until they are able to rally a large force to drive us off, at which point we leave. Sometimes we take losses, sometimes we don't. I'm not allowed to post killboard links here, but if you contact me in game I can give you a link to the SA killboards, where you can make your own assessment of how it's going. "The Spartans ask not how many, but where they are." -Agis II of Sparta
Hinkledolph	Posted - 2006.03.29 00:11:00 - [5] Bleah, alt post.
Jim BobbyJoe	Posted - 2006.03.29 00:11:00 - [6] Originally by: Amira Tribal Souls will most likely not mass a large fleet and attack SA. I don't think they can really compete in fleet combat. They also can't take over our stations, because all stations in Stain region are NPC stations. So there's no need for us to defend. What has happened in the past, as shown by both SA and TS videos, is that we attack with squadrons into TS space until they are able to rally a large force to drive us off, at which point we leave. Sometimes we take losses, sometimes we don't. I'm not allowed to post killboard links here, but if you contact me in game I can give you a link to the SA killboards, where you can make your own assessment of how it's going. I did go and check your killboard. It shows 0 losses at all to Tribe. Now I've been out of game near a month now due graphics card issues, and the company I ordered it from taking forever on some stuff. But, unless your board clears every month, I remember seeing SA ships go BOOM more then a few times. Might want to look into that.
Nicholas Barker	Posted - 2006.03.29 00:15:00 - [7] Originally by: Jim BobbyJoe I did go and check your killboard. It shows 0 losses at all to Tribe. Now I've been out of game near a month now due graphics card issues, and the company I ordered it from taking forever on some stuff. But, unless your board clears every month, I remember seeing SA ships go BOOM more then a few times. Might want to look into that. I'm looking at losses we've made because of tribal, you sir are a lier. ----------------- Where'd me pod go?
Amira	Posted - 2006.03.29 00:28:00 - [8] Originally by: Jim BobbyJoe you can make your own assessment of how it's going. I did go and check your killboard. It shows 0 losses at all to Tribe. Now I've been out of game near a month now due graphics card issues, and the company I ordered it from taking forever on some stuff. But, unless your board clears every month, I remember seeing SA ships go BOOM more then a few times. Might want to look into that. It's a sorting issue on our killboard. The only corp/alliance listed currently is that of the victim. So when you sort by Tribal, it shows only the mails where a Tribal pilot is the victim. You need to sort by SA and look at the killmails to see which kills were laid on by TS. It's a technical issue we're working on. Rest assured SA takes loss reporting very seriously. If your pilots have killmails that show SA losses that are not posted on the SA board after proper searching, contact me in game and I will sort it. "The Spartans ask not how many, but where they are." -Agis II of Sparta
Hinkledolph	Posted - 2006.03.29 00:33:00 - [9] Ah, ok. :)
Angry Dan	Posted - 2006.03.29 00:46:00 - [10] Alliance wars are similar to this camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull OMG IM DYING!!!!! AAARRRGGGGGHHHHHHH! hauling = dull hauling = dull hauling = dull hauling = dull hauling = dull OMG GATE CAMP I'm dead camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull HA HA HA I WTFPWNDJ00, YOUR SHUTTLE WAS NO MATCH FOR MY ZEALOT!!! and my 15 buddies So, to put it bluntly, lots of tension, lots of people looking for things to shoot, and occasional frantic action. But damn, the politics and the not knowing whats around the corner make this game fun. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
Berneh	Posted - 2006.03.29 01:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Angry Dan OMG IM DYING!!!!! AAARRRGGGGGHHHHHHH! hauling = dull hauling = dull hauling = dull hauling = dull hauling = dull OMG GATE CAMP I'm dead camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull HA HA HA I WTFPWNDJ00, YOUR SHUTTLE WAS NO MATCH FOR MY ZEALOT!!! and my 15 buddies And angry dan really does use that many capitals too ______________________________________ Wakibaki > lady boys are better in bed than any english girl If you say so waki :)
Randay	Posted - 2006.03.29 02:21:00 - [12] when did true power and true creations leave sansha's nation and join stain alliance? ------------------------------------------- "Det hSr kan betyda krig!"
Bukowski	Posted - 2006.03.29 02:32:00 - [13] 75% of alliance warfare takes place on the forums.
Hokuten	Posted - 2006.03.29 06:04:00 - [14] Edited by: Hokuten on 29/03/2006 06:05:45 Mostly a war of attrition tbh, until one of them get hit with a heavy blow and there is blood in the water. Then everyone else and their friends jump into the mix.
End Yourself	Posted - 2006.03.29 08:20:00 - [15] Originally by: Trigoor I read that TS and SA are war. What exactly does this mean? and what do these wars look like (in general). Is TS going to gather all their pilots and all there most powerful ships in the next couple days and move in mass into there enemies space and try to take over all of SA's territory and occupy their stations? Will this invasion force be met by all of SA's pilots and best ships. Will they fight it out in some massive fleet action until one side has been wiped out or retreats? Or is it more like a war of attrition? Is it isolated small raids taking down weak points? Does an attacking force gain strength as it succeeds so it becomes like a snowball rolling down hill or does it exhaust itself. Are these fights ever to the death or does it become to expensive even for the side which is winning to continue. Because of time zone differences do both sides need to be on alert or have defensive forces ready 24 hours a day? basically it means 1000+ npc stations were just added to SA's to-be-camped-from-inside list --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Emewin	Posted - 2006.03.29 08:30:00 - [16] Originally by: End Yourself Originally by: Trigoor I read that TS and SA are war. What exactly does this mean? and what do these wars look like (in general). Is TS going to gather all their pilots and all there most powerful ships in the next couple days and move in mass into there enemies space and try to take over all of SA's territory and occupy their stations? Will this invasion force be met by all of SA's pilots and best ships. Will they fight it out in some massive fleet action until one side has been wiped out or retreats? Or is it more like a war of attrition? Is it isolated small raids taking down weak points? Does an attacking force gain strength as it succeeds so it becomes like a snowball rolling down hill or does it exhaust itself. Are these fights ever to the death or does it become to expensive even for the side which is winning to continue. Because of time zone differences do both sides need to be on alert or have defensive forces ready 24 hours a day? basically it means 1000+ npc stations were just added to SA's to-be-camped-from-inside list End yourself:P Sorry I had to.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.03.29 08:31:00 - [17] Originally by: Bukowski 75% of alliance warfare takes place on the forums. it's only that little? Originally by: Tuxford we look at them say "wow autocannons sure do suck,... oh well lets go boost amarr".
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.03.29 08:38:00 - [18] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Bukowski 75% of alliance warfare takes place on the forums. it's only that little? Sarmual... Future EvE Leader! All hail the mighty Sarmaul. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.03.29 08:52:00 - [19] ^ I swear that isn't my alt Originally by: Tuxford we look at them say "wow autocannons sure do suck,... oh well lets go boost amarr".
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.03.29 09:13:00 - [20] Originally by: Sarmaul ^ I swear that isn't my alt O RLY? ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
James Lyrus	Posted - 2006.03.29 09:59:00 - [21] Edited by: James Lyrus on 29/03/2006 10:01:35 Alliance warfare is a bit like piracy, but with more smack and forum flaming. What happens is one alliance decides another needs a bit of a kicking. Sometimes there's a war declaration, that signifies that they'll be 'bringing it' in Empire as well as 0.0. Then the alliance who's on the receiving end decides to: a) Fight back. (gate blockades, territorial raids, and counter hostile incursions) b) Hide in Empire. c) defect to non alliance corps d) Lurk in NPC stations e) whinge on the forums. f) call on allies to help out g) ignore the problem and go back to mining crokite. or a combination of the above :). Most alliances seem to like fleet battles, but the problem is it's actually relatively hard to 'organise' a 50v50 in a war sense, especially with time zone differences. What tends to happen is pilots from either alliance go invade, kill a few things, go home again, and post on the forums. -- We are recruiting We sell carriers.
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.03.29 10:36:00 - [22] Originally by: James Lyrus Edited by: James Lyrus on 29/03/2006 10:01:35 Alliance warfare is a bit like piracy, but with more smack and forum flaming. What happens is one alliance decides another needs a bit of a kicking. Sometimes there's a war declaration, that signifies that they'll be 'bringing it' in Empire as well as 0.0. Then the alliance who's on the receiving end decides to: a) Fight back. (gate blockades, territorial raids, and counter hostile incursions) b) Hide in Empire. c) defect to non alliance corps d) Lurk in NPC stations e) whinge on the forums. f) call on allies to help out g) ignore the problem and go back to mining crokite. or a combination of the above :). Most alliances seem to like fleet battles, but the problem is it's actually relatively hard to 'organise' a 50v50 in a war sense, especially with time zone differences. What tends to happen is pilots from either alliance go invade, kill a few things, go home again, and post on the forums. oki i will tkae g
The Longinus	Posted - 2006.03.29 10:40:00 - [23] 0.0 space is war. SA declairing on TS (or the other way around) is nothing more than a forum war, wich can not be won by either. "There are no constants in war", dunno where that came from but it is true. No two enemies are the same and therefore no two wars will be the same. If you want to know how 0.0 warfare is like you should go find out on your own, and most importantly... close the browser.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.03.29 11:04:00 - [24] Alliance wars == Redrawing borders on EvE map. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Kuolematon	Posted - 2006.03.29 11:07:00 - [25] You mean "smackwars" ? Unnerf Amarr! Proud member of Black Omega Security
Manfred Sideous	Posted - 2006.03.29 12:07:00 - [26] Originally by: Angry Dan Alliance wars are similar to this camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull OMG IM DYING!!!!! AAARRRGGGGGHHHHHHH! hauling = dull hauling = dull hauling = dull hauling = dull hauling = dull OMG GATE CAMP I'm dead camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull camping = dull HA HA HA I WTFPWNDJ00, YOUR SHUTTLE WAS NO MATCH FOR MY ZEALOT!!! and my 15 buddies So, to put it bluntly, lots of tension, lots of people looking for things to shoot, and occasional frantic action. But damn, the politics and the not knowing whats around the corner make this game fun. NBSI makes things a little less dull. So who we killing today?
Leilani Solaris	Posted - 2006.03.29 12:42:00 - [27] blob, blob, blob, blob, fleet fight, blob, blob, gank, blob, fleet fight, gank, blob. Roughly like that I haven't got a new sig yet :) http://triad.eve-killboard.net/
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.03.29 12:52:00 - [28] And then you get the time in FAT where SA had a tower that was taking a beating before it onlined and so we scrambled a fleet to take on the FIX fleet in system, ended up being 80 odd per side and the fight lasted for 1 hour 20 mins showing 119 ships killed in the hour on the map. There was a fixed objective in space that had a time limit and had to eiher be taken out or defended which promoted more than the usual snipe, warp, snipe, warp. Moments like this and taking your objectives are the things that make alliance wars great. War is expensive and so you have to gear up your economy to support it. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Nicholas Barker	Posted - 2006.03.29 16:02:00 - [29] that was THE best fight i have ever been involved in. We tried loads of ways of running in, and sticking fuel into it before the hauler got popped, but the load lag made it impossible. So eventually we dove in fists first. I think the tower was in armor when the fight started. ----------------- Where'd me pod go?
Walkin	Posted - 2006.03.29 16:47:00 - [30] I must concurr, the FAT fleet battles made the year for me. I could stay docked for the next 9 months doing nothing and i would still consider it the best year in eve ive had. One good battle can fuel a man for a very long time. 2006 will be the year of the capital ships, so things will get even more interesting in all out war.

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