Saelyth
Nex quod Principatus
7
|
Posted - 2014.02.11 20:21:00 -
[1] - Quote
I think the main thing people who are raging so hard about are forgetting is that this is a LOGISTICS ship capable of over 100k EHP, about 600 DPS (with drones at a range of 100+, no lasers), that has the capacity to remote rep the equiv of 6 large reps. Comparatively that's over a 1.5x of a Capital repper, more if you use T2 reps. It's a "mini carrier," in a sense, and should be supported like one.
As a solo ship, the Nestor is absolutely terrible, no questions asked. The key thing is that in numbers, this ship becomes absolutely devastating. I've been playing with fits for weeks, constantly tweaking and tinkering for whatever I can feel is acceptable for its role and purpose. Sure, if I wanted raw DPS and damage application, I'd use a Dominix (also maintaining to Armor doctrines); I won't argue with you there.
In any case, the design I'm looking most intensely at right now goes something like this: 4x M4 or T2 Large Remote Armor Reps 2x T2 Drone Links for control range 1x Auto Targeter (for +3 targets) or Large Energy transfer
Some mix of the following: Omni Directionals ECCMs Large Cap Batteries for some neut reflection Cap rechargers
Also some mix of: 1600 plates ENAMs Drone Damage Cap Relays DC
Basically I'm looking at upwards of 100 sensor strength, about 1.5-2x cap armor rep equiv, all while bringing around 600 DPS that can be easily assigned to any other fleet member. A small gang with say, three of these would be very difficult to overcome. Of course we wouldn't just use three and no support, these things are going to be primaries just as readily as a carrier would be. Bring a geddon or two for neut and yet more drones assignable to your FC or anyone unjammed. Bring an Eos if you want to add a few more sentries to the fray and some armor/info links as well. There are lots of options available. You can't only look at the Nestor's raw numbers for a single trait and use that as a comparison to specialized ships.
Personally, I happen to like the prospect of our Logistics pilots being able to apply damage. In my opinion, while we can certainly run sites with T2 Logis and some domis and complete them with minimal isk on the field, I'm of the preference of faster completion and fielding ships capable of fighting back should the INEVITABLE occur. Let's face it, this is EVE; ships blow up. I'd rather go down slugging it out in ships that are ready for a fight than sitting on my ass just waiting for someone to finally primary me. We're all here itching for the "good fight," the memorable one, the one you talk about with your corp mates every now and then who were on your wing when it happened. I don't want to be in the carrier that got bhaalgorned into oblivion that sat there in triage with no cap to do anything. I don't want to be in the little logistics cruiser that got nuked out of existence the moment a dozen or two ships jumped to grid, looking at my new pod in Empire space knowing all my friends are about to join me and there's nothing I can do.
TL:DR The nestor is a fleet ship. Using is by itself is stupid. Using just two of them is probably also borderline stupid. In any case, I'll reiterate that it's a LOGISTICS ship that can bring substantial DPS and range to the grid. Further, being a battleship hull, it'll even allow you to get creative in your emergency refitting in ways of micro jumps, spectrum breakers, use of micro jump deployable, and so forth, all options unavailable to carriers. |