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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.03.29 18:31:00 -
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They get bonuses to more useful things instead. Amarr have nos, minmatar have webs etc. To be honest, range bonuses on those things is an absolute god-send. it turns standard gear into officer gear.
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Posted - 2006.03.29 19:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Bazman
People do not yet realise the ultimate power recon ships have, all of them. (Stolen from Ninja's i might add)
Seriously.
Curse. Shield Tank. Nos. Enough said, right?
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Posted - 2006.03.30 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bazman
Look, tell you what, get together a covert recon squad. 1 Arazu, 1 Pilgrim, 1 Falcon and 1 Rapier.
Come back and complain about any of the recons and i'll have a laugh at you. If you team them up together, they are litterally an unkillable force, the only way to beat them is to use a passive tanked, fof cruise launching Raven with 2 large smartbombs. Nothing else remotely has a chance against them.
Recon = sex
Exactly. Now add a cloaked interdictor and a scanning/scouting covops for 0.0. There's something frustrating about fighting a small team of cloaked ships that can **** out a bubble at any second, always know where you are and can find you and kill+pod you if you log off near a known object 95% of the time.
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Posted - 2006.03.30 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 30/03/2006 18:45:56
Originally by: seeyouauntie
I don't think recons are meant to tank. It's a waste. If you want to tank, get a BS.
Recon ships' strength is ewar. Stick with that.
Except that T2 cruisers can tank better than BS.
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Posted - 2006.03.30 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dash Ripcock
The Falcon can also play the trick of jamming the enemy, cloaking, allowing the jam to continue running its cycle, then uncloak to jam again. It also hides your ECM support from a target scouting you.
Don't forget that you can warp while cloaked by fitting the covop cloak on the falcon. You can cloak, warp to a new position so they can't hone in on you and decloak and scramble you with a tackler. With the range bonus on the falcon's jammers, you can jam someone, cloak, warp to a position 100km on the other side of them with some cleverly positioned secure cans or bookmarks and repeat.
With enough different positions, you could spend the entire fight cloak-warping around between spots, jamming the target and not missing a single second of the jamming. You could fit 2 launchers and let out a missile every time you cycle the jammer but that's about it. Not much damage output at all and it would be hard to pull off without secure cans arranged around the fight point but it plays to the Falcon's strengths and you're making your fleet's ECM practically uncallable as a target. They can waste time chasing you around the place or they can pick a target they can actually destroy.
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Posted - 2006.03.30 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 30/03/2006 21:13:23
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Except you cannot warp to bookmarks that are in the same grid as you are.
Cans would work, but then again, other people can warp to them aswell.
You can warp to something in the same grid that's over 150km away. I'll have to see if that bookmark thing is true. And are you sure you can warp to cans that aren't from your corp? I could check but I think you can't.
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Posted - 2006.03.30 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 30/03/2006 21:29:53
Originally by: Ithildin
You can warp to cans from other people's corps. I do it all the time.
The only thing you can't warp to (that you're normally allowed to warp to) within the same grid and outside 150km is bookmarks.
Ah, damn. Then we're only left with ships liek shuttles and they're easy to pop. Still, you might be able to warp to something just off-grid and back again before a multispectral jammer cycles.
But then take locking time into account and it's probably not too viable.
But basically, it means if you have a bookmark off-grid and you get into trouble, you can always jam, cloak and warp, then warp back again.
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Posted - 2006.03.30 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Ithildin
You can warp to cans from other people's corps. I do it all the time.
There's something funny with them though. Usually you can warp to them fine, but i've had cases where i got the "Your Warp Drive is unabe to lock onto the selected object" message trying to warp to cans. Seems random from what i can tell.
Checked whether they're anchored or unanchored?
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Posted - 2006.03.31 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Ithildin
You can warp to cans from other people's corps. I do it all the time.
The only thing you can't warp to (that you're normally allowed to warp to) within the same grid and outside 150km is bookmarks.
Hit the approach button and then be amazed as you're wisked away in warp...
I'll have to test that one, but I always assumed that this was the case.
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