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Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:14:00 -
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Hey everyone, watch out for this sad fellow named Dray Cil. I met him in recruitment channel after coming back to EVE from a long break, where I was asking for a corp and he said that if I could answer a few questions I could join his. He invited me to a voice chat channel with alot of people. So we started talking about random stuff, it was pretty good I didn't seem to think of them as bad people.
Later however we started talking about wealth and I said I had 59m. They laughed, and said Dray would double it for me as he had done it "countless of times before to poor people". I am usually very cautious about not getting scammed, and I was it this time again. I tried to switch topic but they kept insisting on how he could make me alot richer in a couple of seconds.
Them seeming as nice guys, Dray seeming as a very rich & friendly person who would let me enter his corp soon (He agreed to letting me in, only had to write an application yet) AND them all being mature men, I trusted them.. Once he had my money he insulted me, let me know I would not join his corp, kept my money and kicked me off voice chat..
I PM'd him why the **** he would do this, and he responded with a 180m bounty... I have no money left, and have a ridiculous bounty on my head, he literally ruined me EVE career..
Please guys, do NOT trust Dray Cil or ANY of his seemingly friends. They are mature men who like to backstab backstabbing fools who apparently take pleasure in scamming poor people.
That was alll. /ragemode off. |

Jimmie Russell
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:18:00 -
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The bounty doesn't count for squat. Don't worry about that.
I guess you should feel lucky in a way that your loss was relatively small. 59m isn't much in the grand scheme of things.
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Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:26:00 -
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Relatively small according to you yes, for me it was 100%.  |

Grunanca
Doughboys Shadow Cartel
138
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:38:00 -
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Just do the tutorial missions and a storyline for some corp and you will have many times the lost amount with hardly any work. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
741
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:48:00 -
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Did you thank the guy for teaching you a valuable lesson that applies both to Eve and to real life? It's good manners to say thank-you. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Cattiva daSilva
one stop fleetshop
1
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:06:00 -
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christ the name of the guy that "scamed" you is still changing?
also wrong forum for pity me scams.... |

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:18:00 -
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It was first Dary Cil so I edited it into Dray cil.. And this is a warning to all of you. That guy (atleast sounds like) is an old man who you wouldn't expect to scam, especially not for in their eyes low amounts. |

Zoltann Kool
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:56:00 -
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He's a scammer - Back from 2013 - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=209502 |

Captain Jean-Luc -Picard
StarFleet Central Command
2
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:58:00 -
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(Edit) looks like the guy above me beat me to it. lol
Heads up guys its a SCAM.
This guy just takes advantage of people and wants something for nothing.
Don't believe me just go ahead and read that post i linked.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=209502 |

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
110
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:58:00 -
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Welcome back. Will you ever fall for this again? At least it only cost you everything before you had acquired a large quantity of stuff... You'll be fine assuming you are able to pull the lesson out of this one; trust nobody [or at least a very select few]. http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |

Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
85
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:10:00 -
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OK, now I'm lost (literally). Who is the bad guy in this? The guy that scammed the OP? The OP for this whole thing being a scam? Are the OP and the scammer both the same guy? How can I shoot the bad guys if I don't know which is which?? |

Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
299
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:10:00 -
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Looks like the OP posted this thread in the hopes that some sap will donate him some pity ISK.
Good effort. |

Ry Vern
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
0
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:11:00 -
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lol welcome back to eve.. and hopefully you learned something. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
742
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:31:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:How can I shoot the bad guys if I don't know which is which??
Shoot everyone and let the undertakers sort it out. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Subject 4927
The Rejected. TAXU
28
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:45:00 -
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Welcome back.
He didn't do a good job so consider yourself lucky. I would've let you join and gotten your pod. |

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2014.01.28 16:10:00 -
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Subject 4927 wrote:Welcome back.
He didn't do a good job so consider yourself lucky. I would've let you join and gotten your pod.
Well there wasn't much to be gotten in my pod anyway. Never used implants in fear of using them, they're so expensive |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2462
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Posted - 2014.01.28 16:33:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:OK, now I'm lost (literally). Who is the bad guy in this? The guy that scammed the OP? The OP for this whole thing being a scam? Are the OP and the scammer both the same guy? How can I shoot the bad guys if I don't know which is which?? The real question is, who cares? Unless you have a REALLY long sheet of paper, you won't jot down the name of all the scammers, liar, awoxers, etc, etc, etc, and if you do, they'll just reroll. Just follow the old "if it sounds to good to be true it is in fact a lie" rule and these posts suddenly become irrelevant. I've literally read the OP like 3 seconds ago, and already forgot the name of both the OP and the person he claims is a scammer, because (careface).
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Ophidia Black
Bad Touches
38
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Posted - 2014.01.28 17:53:00 -
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Scams in EvE? What is this heresy?  Official Reimbursement Officer for the New Order. Contact me for reimbursement in game if your barge was unfairly destroyed. |

Bald Beauty
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.01.28 21:53:00 -
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I was under the impression using the recruiting channel for scams wasn't allowed, obviously I was wrong. |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
858
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Posted - 2014.01.29 02:58:00 -
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It is as if some people here do not realize that the OP and the 'scammer' are the same person.
Just the old goon trick of posting fake recruitment scam tears to create an image/perception/seem cool.
If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3368
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Posted - 2014.01.29 07:50:00 -
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What a horribly cruel thing. It is a shame that the OP did not find me first.
Do you have any friends you can borrow from? Assets? I can look around and find you a fine corp to start over in. 59 million is easy to recoup for anyone willing to pull themselves up with their bootstraps. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
371
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Posted - 2014.01.29 14:45:00 -
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Maximillian Stark wrote: And this is a warning to all of you. That guy (atleast sounds like) is an old man who you wouldn't expect to scam
I failed to notice how Bernie Madoff, those guys at JP Morgan and the fellas at Enron and Arthur Andersen were all teenagers.
So, now I know. It's weird that old men scam, right? Thanks a lot for your input 
59 millon is NOTHING. If it's your 100%, you could have recovered EVERYTHING in 48 hours even with a 1 day alt and a bit of work.
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Diva Ex Machina
D'reg Spaceship Samurai
36
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Posted - 2014.01.29 14:55:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Looks like the OP posted this thread in the hopes that some sap will donate him some pity ISK.
Good effort.
But he has such an honest, open face. What kind of scoundrel would do such a thing?! |

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:58:00 -
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Diva Ex Machina wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Looks like the OP posted this thread in the hopes that some sap will donate him some pity ISK.
Good effort. But he has such an honest, open face. What kind of scoundrel would do such a thing?!
Someone sent me 10 pity ISK, thanks. :/ Still doubting whether I should keep playing or not. |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
318
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:16:00 -
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Maximillian Stark wrote:Diva Ex Machina wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Looks like the OP posted this thread in the hopes that some sap will donate him some pity ISK.
Good effort. But he has such an honest, open face. What kind of scoundrel would do such a thing?! Someone sent me 10 pity ISK, thanks. :/ Still doubting whether I should keep playing or not.
Why would you quit?
This game is all about losing it all and coming back.
The man who scammed you... he just provided your end game content. He is your target. Bring him down however you can. If you fail, try again.
Welcome to the real EVE. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |

Abdul 'aleem
Sumiko Yoshida Corporation
164
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:00:00 -
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You got off easy OP. It could have been a lot worse.
Some known scams in EVE The ability for everyone and their allies to legally counter-gank mission invaders... yes please. Add a Suspect Flag for Mission Invasion
Click "like" in the original post to support it. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3393
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:22:00 -
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I know some people who were the first to come up with some of these and no credit is given, how rude.
The Multiples of 1000 for example was popularized by me and is not a scam. It is more widely known as my nullsec trading method. We can't be held accountable for someone clicking too fast and not reading the warnings. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
133
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:42:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:I know some people who were the first to come up with some of these and no credit is given, how rude. The Multiples of 1000 for example was popularized by me and is not a scam. It is more widely known as my nullsec trading method. We can't be held accountable for someone clicking too fast and not reading the warnings.
Hey little scammer, I don't like your kind, shoo. |

Wingmate
Raven's Flight Havoc.
230
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Posted - 2014.01.31 22:34:00 -
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Maximillian Stark wrote:Relatively small according to you yes, for me it was 100%.
holy ****, i can't believe you didn't even bother biomassing this toon and starting another one before begging like this again. do people not know how to search for how many times you've done this scam? i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433 |

Dace Onio
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2014.01.31 22:49:00 -
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Maximillian Stark wrote:Diva Ex Machina wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Looks like the OP posted this thread in the hopes that some sap will donate him some pity ISK.
Good effort. But he has such an honest, open face. What kind of scoundrel would do such a thing?! Someone sent me 10 pity ISK, thanks. :/ Still doubting whether I should keep playing or not.
Just biomass an leave eve all together, the universe will be a better place without you |
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