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DrakeStone
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Posted - 2006.03.30 15:04:00 -
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Sweet Jesus.
Someone kill me.
No, really.
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Ms Freak
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Posted - 2006.03.30 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: DrakeStone Sweet Jesus.
Someone kill me.
No, really.
WA?
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Core Bash
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Posted - 2006.03.30 15:09:00 -
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Who cares - you Raven pilots don't have to reach fall off & optimal. _
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Astrum Ludus
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Posted - 2006.03.30 15:28:00 -
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Yeah they're slow, but then they hit further and you don't have to be at any specific range, just 'in range' with missiles
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DrakeStone
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Posted - 2006.03.30 15:46:00 -
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I guess Instas and tractor beams will be absolutely required for me.
I can't stand using a slow ship to get places.
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Thomas Epsilon
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Posted - 2006.03.30 15:48:00 -
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what do you mean "going to be"? it's already slower. it is going te get even slower..? _________________________ Thomas Epsilon
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.03.30 15:49:00 -
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I guess he means he's about to get one and is realising he's about to be flying an even slower ship.
That is Caldari's curse. Fortunately for you, everything else is in their favour at the moment :P
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Kery Nysell
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Posted - 2006.03.30 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: DrakeStone I guess Instas and tractor beams will be absolutely required for me.
I can't stand using a slow ship to get places.
Erm, almost everyone uses instas already, and if you need to "get places", you should use a fast travelling ship, not a combat behemoth like the Raven ...
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2006.03.30 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kery Nysell
Originally by: DrakeStone I guess Instas and tractor beams will be absolutely required for me.
I can't stand using a slow ship to get places.
Erm, almost everyone uses instas already, and if you need to "get places", you should use a fast travelling ship, not a combat behemoth like the Raven ...
But you can't very well use a fast ship or instas to travel between gates in a deadspace complex, and that is what the OP was about. --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!
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Kery Nysell
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Posted - 2006.03.30 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ortu Konsinni
Originally by: Kery Nysell
Originally by: DrakeStone I guess Instas and tractor beams will be absolutely required for me.
I can't stand using a slow ship to get places.
Erm, almost everyone uses instas already, and if you need to "get places", you should use a fast travelling ship, not a combat behemoth like the Raven ...
But you can't very well use a fast ship or instas to travel between gates in a deadspace complex, and that is what the OP was about.
Oh.
Sorry.
For me, "getting places" is moving my BPOs to a cheap lab, or going with a BPC to a station where a friend wants me to build a ship for him ...
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Budz Fergie
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Posted - 2006.03.30 16:43:00 -
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LOL!
As a raven pilot I'm use to just warping in and 'parking' the ship and start spamming missiles.
And if you think its slow now, wait till you equip 6 t2 sieges with javelin torps. I have a wonderfully speedy 38.3 m/s then.
But, really don't need speed with 264km range and can toast anything within that range quickly! And I do mean anything, why you think inty pilots are whinning now!
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OrangeAfroMan
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Posted - 2006.03.30 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Budz Fergie LOL!
As a raven pilot I'm use to just warping in and 'parking' the ship and start spamming missiles.
And if you think its slow now, wait till you equip 6 t2 sieges with javelin torps. I have a wonderfully speedy 38.3 m/s then.
But, really don't need speed with 264km range and can toast anything within that range quickly! And I do mean anything, why you think inty pilots are whinning now!
:( it hurts.... *cries*
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.30 18:03:00 -
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Very slow, Ravens already are.   ----------------
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Halada
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Posted - 2006.03.30 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Very slow, Ravens already are.  
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Arakasai
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Posted - 2006.03.30 18:14:00 -
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Raven is very slow, so here is my tactic.
Level 3 Missions (Load a Sensor Booster): 1. Warp to the Mission 2. Turn on Sensor Booster 3. Kill everything while moving towards the next acceleration gate 4. Move through gate 5. Repeat
Level 4 Missions (No Sensor Booster): 1. Warp to the Mission 2. Systematically target and destroy the groups while moving towards the next gate. 3. Move through gate 5. Repeat
Essentially, unlike the Ferox you do not really have to play with range. You quickly lose the urge to loot moving at < 140m/s and focus on long range killing and moving to the next gate.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.30 18:15:00 -
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I loved my speedy scorp and bb  www.eve-files.com/media/corp/Nafri/Hidden_in_the_sand_Kopie1.jpg[/IMG]
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DrakeStone
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Posted - 2006.03.30 18:24:00 -
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Edited by: DrakeStone on 30/03/2006 18:26:40
Originally by: Arakasai Raven is very slow, so here is my tactic.
Level 3 Missions (Load a Sensor Booster): 1. Warp to the Mission 2. Turn on Sensor Booster 3. Kill everything while moving towards the next acceleration gate 4. Move through gate 5. Repeat
Level 4 Missions (No Sensor Booster): 1. Warp to the Mission 2. Systematically target and destroy the groups while moving towards the next gate. 3. Move through gate 5. Repeat
Essentially, unlike the Ferox you do not really have to play with range. You quickly lose the urge to loot moving at < 140m/s and focus on long range killing and moving to the next gate.
You guys were on it.. I am impatient in the deadspace areas, to and from gates, and when it comes time to loot. Looks like I'll just have to deal. I can't imagine the thought of not looting cans on level 4 missions, but I find myself doing that on level 3's now @ 160m/s in my Ferox.
At least, I'm prepared for the frustration now as opposed to dropping the money and realizing then.
Really just an academic whine by me since Raven > all apparently and not moving up when able to do so would be unrealistic at best. 
Thanks for the largely constructive response, folks.
Drake
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Eyari
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Posted - 2006.03.30 18:39:00 -
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IMHO, get a looting ship. For Caldari (I'm a Raven pilot too), I use a Caracal, though you might find other combinations.
Fit said Caracal with:
High: 5 Tractor Beams Mid: MWD, AB, 2x battery, 1x cap charger Low: Cargo expanders
Of course, fit it to taste. The reason for the MWD and AB is that sometimes you might want MWD and sometimes you might want AB, depending on if you are in or out of a mission.
How to use: 1. Go to mission. 2. Kill stuff. 3a. If normal space, bookmark 1 can, swap ships, loot. 3b. If deadspace, bookmark 1 can per level of mission, finish mission (ie talk to agent), swap ships, warp back to cans, loot.
Caveats: - If you are concerned about loot rotting, make sure to start looting before 2 hours of your first kill. If it's a long mission, do some rotations or something. - If loot is in a deadspace, as long as you bookmark it, you can come back to it, even after the mission is over. Just bookmark and fly back to it.
This way, you can just lay out the missile spam while flying to the next gate, and let the Raven do what it's good at: killing mission NPCs.
I used to fit a tractor on my Raven instead of a NOS, but...it just was kinda slow at it.
My friend flies Minmatar ships and has a similar setup on his Stabber...much faster ship.
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2006.03.30 18:43:00 -
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anyone know why the Caldari railboars are so slow? I understand the logic behind the missile ships but what about the rail platforms? ---------------------------------------------
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Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.03.30 20:07:00 -
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All Caldari ships are slower than their counterparts.
When it comes to the bigger Caldari ships, lootships are only the way to go.
I use a Badger Mk II with local hull nanofibers, a T2 afterburner, and two tractor beams. It is very fast (~600 m/s), and you can grab two cans while moving to a third.
Any sort of looting in a Raven has got to be a form of torture. I won't even do it in my Ferox unless I'm packing a tractor. ---
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Bizazedo
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Posted - 2006.03.30 21:08:00 -
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Yeah, I quickly just snagged a Kestrel and fit it with an AB and went to town looting once I realized I'd shoot myself in the head if I tried looting with my Ferox.
So, so painful :(
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k starwind
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Posted - 2006.03.30 21:43:00 -
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my raven travels at 37.5m/sec top speed
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Arakasai
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Posted - 2006.03.30 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: k starwind my raven travels at 37.5m/sec top speed
Unload your Tech II ammo when you need to move :)
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Arakasai
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Posted - 2006.03.30 22:08:00 -
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Why not loot in your Raven?
Refit to have as many tractor beams as you want, nanos in the low and an MWD. They travel pretty fast and can get quite the loot train :)
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4 LOM
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Posted - 2006.03.31 05:58:00 -
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Sigil 2x tractor beams 1x 10mn ab, 2x cap batteries 5x nano fibers.
had it going over 900m/s before i lost her to a suicde gank in jita. had all named nanno fibers, would have been even more sweat with a named ab or tech II. 2x +5% to mwd and afterburner implants FTW
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.03.31 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: 4 LOM Sigil 2x tractor beams 1x 10mn ab, 2x cap batteries 5x nano fibers.
had it going over 900m/s before i lost her to a suicde gank in jita. had all named nanno fibers, would have been even more sweat with a named ab or tech II. 2x +5% to mwd and afterburner implants FTW
A full rack of local hull nanos and and ABII makes it sickeningly fast. It's great for 'tidying' missions :) -- We are recruiting
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DrakeStone
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Posted - 2006.03.31 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Bizazedo Yeah, I quickly just snagged a Kestrel and fit it with an AB and went to town looting once I realized I'd shoot myself in the head if I tried looting with my Ferox.
So, so painful :(
LOL, feel ya.
Good stuff everyone - thanks.
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