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Hidden Fremen
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
294
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:41:00 -
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M Thomas wrote:Sith1s Spectre wrote:Dmitry Wizard wrote:when ever a good fight is to be expected. We dont engage TLC anymore. "TLC? Assume Archons" Could be worse Dmitry, play with Adhoc, they'll roll you into their hole after baiting you to fight them, drop multiple caps on you and then try to ransom you to pay for their losses :P umad bra?
This bears uncanny resemblance to that alliance formerly known as REPO.
I don't always post in >Wormholes>, but when I do, I immediately regret it because the thread is so sh*t... |
Xar Pahineh
The Suicide Express
14
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:25:00 -
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^^ agree
Suicide likes to fight, we fight whenever we can, isn't that the reason we're in a WH?
That being said - we'll scout, look for a good fight either down the chain or in k-space. We went out in a BS fleet last friday, got our asses handed to us but it was fun.
We've fought most of you guys over the past few months, some we won, some we haven't.
it's all about the fun in the end, and fighting is fun, so we bring the fight whenever we can.
Recruitment Officer for The Suicide Express [PROZC]
Public Channel:-á Public Suicide |
Quinn Diaz
DON'T DO IT DAD
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:42:00 -
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Page 2 and I'm the first one to confess that I am risk averse?
Me and my friends normally jump on every opportunity to score a gank, while trying to bait smaller escalations. We will not however take any fight we know we will lose, since we normally roll with 2-4 dps ships and no logistics (but a bunch of scout/tackle alts).
This doesn't mean that we run from everything that looks remotely dangerous however. With good intel and going in aggressive you can get some nice results with a much smaller fleet, since the first reaction for most people is to run away when someone is confident enough to go HAM on you. With this technique we have managed to fight half a fleet, and kill off their reinforcements returning 1 by 1 when they realize we actually didn't have a large fleet.
But then comes the times when you face the fleets with as many or more dps t3, backed up by tackle/bubbles and logis. These times we are the cowards cloaking up/posing up, hoping to catch a lone straggler or set a trap by rolling a hole when we know a smaller group is out roaming, hoping to catch them where their path home used to be. |
Akatori Nalelmir
Blue-Fire
5
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:48:00 -
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We like to form up big fleets and not fight, because we are "too passive", True Story |
Sith1s Spectre
Sky Fighters
562
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Posted - 2014.01.31 21:24:00 -
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M Thomas wrote:Sith1s Spectre wrote:Dmitry Wizard wrote:when ever a good fight is to be expected. We dont engage TLC anymore. "TLC? Assume Archons" Could be worse Dmitry, play with Adhoc, they'll roll you into their hole after baiting you to fight them, drop multiple caps on you and then try to ransom you to pay for their losses :P umad bra?
Not really no. We'll take the hard fights and jump in without any hesitation ballsdeep into your home.
It's your sandbox and you can crap in it however you want. For us personally, it just changes what sort of fleet we bring next time.
Regards,
Sith
Sky Fighters is now recruiting a few more US/AU players
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4033197#post4033197
Talvorian Dex's Blog:-áhttp://targetcaller.blogspot.com/ |
M Thomas
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
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Posted - 2014.01.31 22:00:00 -
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Your space courage and honor is obviously unmatchable.
Respects,
M |
Glyndi
Doom Generation
THE H0NEYBADGER
146
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Posted - 2014.01.31 22:06:00 -
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We take all the fights, because not fighting is against our GSI (Give a **** Index). |
JamesWyh
Probe Patrol
Awakened.
15
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Posted - 2014.02.01 13:51:00 -
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Backing what my fellow corp man Rek says. I aim for my corp to have fun and take fights wherever we can. We shall back away from suicide but we have found that it is the hard fights that your learn from. We want to learn to be better and that is what we try. Often with mixed success.
I agree with what mr bane says (scarily) about it not people a fault when you just can't fight. We tried on NoHos the other day, made an error then hit the retreat button. Similarly Adhoc rolled into us ready but they were just honest and said we had too much online so left them to it.
My aims are fun and education. Normally not mixed but for this they shall be !
In other news I am enjoying the diversity away from t3 fleets that seems to be spreading. It makes stuff more interesting indeed. |
Hidden Fremen
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
297
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Posted - 2014.02.01 15:16:00 -
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After nearly four years of faring the unknown, this is what I've noticed... Those trying to make a name for themselves (new/reformed corps/alliances) will more than likely give you a good fight, but then they become prima donnas. Is there anyone left out there who truly does not give a f***?
I don't always post in >Wormholes>, but when I do, I immediately regret it because the thread is so sh*t... |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
855
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Posted - 2014.02.01 18:20:00 -
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I didn't want that salvage legion anyway....
No trolling please |
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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
208
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Posted - 2014.02.01 18:33:00 -
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Akatori Nalelmir wrote:We like to form up big fleets and not fight, because we are "too passive", True Story
Confirming we're pacifists
Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Havoc Zealot
Sky Fighters
123
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Posted - 2014.02.01 18:36:00 -
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[Deleted by user] |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
858
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Posted - 2014.02.01 19:21:00 -
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Havoc Zealot wrote: Bane is the coolest person I've ever known
No need to delete your previous post. Be proud!
No trolling please |
Judas Lonestar
Stryker Industries
Ocularis Inferno
44
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Posted - 2014.02.02 00:31:00 -
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Fight? Thats scary. You could damage your ship!
Make isk, not war. Or something like that. |
Havoc Zealot
Sky Fighters
124
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Posted - 2014.02.02 00:47:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:Havoc Zealot wrote: Bane is the coolest person I've ever known
No need to delete your previous post. Be proud!
Hahaha, while this is true it was actually a post about blue fire ;) |
Cosmic Scanner
Temnava Legion
No Holes Barred
55
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Posted - 2014.02.02 01:36:00 -
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Hai guys!!!! my friend just accidentally warped his Archon to the sun in your system.......
Cosmic Scanner / muu lufragga |
Joan Greywind
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
314
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Posted - 2014.02.02 04:55:00 -
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Let me take a wild guess, t3's? |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
208
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Posted - 2014.02.02 05:04:00 -
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Havoc Zealot wrote:Bane Nucleus wrote:Havoc Zealot wrote: Bane is the coolest person I've ever known
No need to delete your previous post. Be proud! Hahaha, while this is true it was actually a post about blue fire ;)
so...
Havoc Zealot wrote:
Blue-Fire is the coolest person I've ever known
Doesn't really make sense but ok 
Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Duke Wendo
Probe Patrol
Awakened.
1
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:09:00 -
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Every other Wednesday after 8pm |
Senn Denroth
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
162
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:43:00 -
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I don't think the thread is titled in a manner that it will answer the overarching question of: are you in it for fun, or are you in it to win?
That question in it self is misleading because those that only take part in fights they think they can win or not, may only fight 33% of the time. In my books that's not a win because it would mean you are sitting in a POS not taking part in the game.
In WH space I've noticed that there are two groups of players.
Group A -
* Are in the game to have fun, but also have common sense and tactics.
* They do not pass up on a fight even if they're outnumbered 2:1 (something about the triple 3 fleet: 3 Loki, 3 Guardians, 3 Tengu, and 1 Moros with massive gonads)
* Will jump capital ships in to a mass reduced hole to secure a fight. Even in to someones home where they could be out escalated 10 fold on capital numbers.
* When are killed type GF in local
Group B -
* POS up straight away when they notice a new sig or ship on scan.
* Reduce mass or close wormholes to avoid fights that they think they might lose. May make excuses such as, not our prime time or, you took too long to bring a fight so we closed it.
* POS up when unable to roll the connection safely.
* Will not fight unless they have 3:1 odds.
* Farmers.
* May sometimes pose to be a corp/alliance that comes under Group A, but just so they don't get evicted or invaded and just get left alone to go back to farming.
Thankfully and proudly I know what group I sit under, I pay for this game to play it and contribute not sit around and ship spin.
P.S. Confirming that Sky Fighters seem to have balls the likes of which that horses roam around with. |
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Allna
On Your Own
SWAG Co
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Posted - 2014.02.04 15:14:00 -
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Senn Denroth wrote:I don't think the thread is titled in a manner that it will answer the overarching question of: are you in it for fun, or are you in it to win?
That question in it self is misleading because those that only take part in fights they think they can win or not, may only fight 33% of the time. In my books that's not a win because it would mean you are sitting in a POS not taking part in the game.
In WH space I've noticed that there are two groups of players.
Group A -
* Are in the game to have fun, but also have common sense and tactics.
* They do not pass up on a fight even if they're outnumbered 2:1 (something about the triple 3 fleet: 3 Loki, 3 Guardians, 3 Tengu, and 1 Moros with massive gonads)
* Will jump capital ships in to a mass reduced hole to secure a fight. Even in to someones home where they could be out escalated 10 fold on capital numbers.
* When are killed type GF in local
Group B -
* POS up straight away when they notice a new sig or ship on scan.
* Reduce mass or close wormholes to avoid fights that they think they might lose. May make excuses such as, not our prime time or, you took too long to bring a fight so we closed it.
* POS up when unable to roll the connection safely.
* Will not fight unless they have 3:1 odds.
* Farmers.
* May sometimes pose to be a corp/alliance that comes under Group A, but just so they don't get evicted or invaded and just get left alone to go back to farming.
Thankfully and proudly I know what group I sit under, I pay for this game to play it and contribute not sit around and ship spin.
P.S. Confirming that Sky Fighters seem to have balls the likes of which that horses roam around with.
I honestly think this is a little black-and-white (though fairly accurate description of a lot of entities we've encountered!).. I like to think of ourselves as not being in group B, basically because we never do most of the things you list there, but, we also rarely take fights that are an obvious loss for us (I suppose 2:1 we'd take depending on the fleet comps and if ECM/Logi are involved), but 3:1 and such we will avoid and look for other fights that are more 'our size'..
For our organization, our behavior comes from simply a lack of cash (and we're pretty small, typical night is 5-6 dudes). We haven't shot red plus's or harvested anything in... several months as most of us seem to not enjoy NPCing, so we really don't have any stable income where we live, and based on our habits, we tend to form up around the same time, and the status quo is to go forth and build a chain in the mapper and look for content in the way of PVP.
Our static is pretty much only ever used as a means to get to another system where there's someone to engage. We don't take fights that are an obvious "we will for sure get murdered", simply because we don't have the funds to mass-replace losses, and would be back in k-space before long if we took fights that would end that way. Perhaps that's our problem, we need to 'farm' more so we can afford to take bigger risks, but .. nobody wants to farm, so we don't, and instead we roam.
Perhaps that's free intel, but it is what it is, and its a game so vOv. |
TXG SYNC
Outer Ring Sleeper Collective
Illusion of Solitude
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Posted - 2014.02.04 19:55:00 -
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Blogged about this very topic: http://splatus.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/pvp-as-a-survival-tactic/
Fighting for us is not just about survival; it's fundamentally why we are here. Wormholes are a bastion of small-gang PvP (heh, I wrote "small-gank PvP" first, that's so true, too...) due to mass limits. Sure, you can find ways to blob, but it's harder than in Null.
We had a recent fight that's illustrative of our typical "when" we fight. New connection opened into our system. We shoved a scout through, determined their corporations, put all their people on watchlist (took a while), determined how many were currently logged on, and calculated our numbers. A quick batphone to some people logged-off so that we had almost as many as they did, and we shipped up to T3s because that's all that we'd seen from them.
A few minutes later, in local one of their members said, "We don't have your numbers. We're not going to fight."
Now, we were a little skeptical, but willing to entertain a fight on a smaller scale. They said they had the numbers to bring a single battlecruiser to fight; we agreed to fight it with frigates and maybe a cruiser or two. After the Gnosis devastated several frigates easily (it was actually pretty sad; we were like villains in a Jackie Chan movie jumping on him one-by-one and being destroyed), I warped onto him as he went into structure in my Arbitrator, and whored on the killmail. GF's were exchanged in local, we let the pod go because that's how we roll during arranged fights.
Another time recently I'd reshipped for PvE with a corp-mate. A new hole opened on our way back home, and they ganked us on the hole. Not intentional PvP -- and we lost horribly to a half-dozen T3s -- but we'll take it.
We skirmish with Null groups, bait in lowsec, and take what comes.
My killboard sure looks sad, though. It is the lot of most logistics pilots. On the plus side, not showing up on killmails means people are likely to ignore our relevance to battle outcomes... |
Stoned Wish
Sky Fighters
1
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Posted - 2014.02.04 22:57:00 -
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Senn Denroth wrote:
P.S. Confirming that Sky Fighters seem to have balls the likes of which that horses roam around with.
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Lord Azori
Team Pizza
The Hole Next Door
47
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Posted - 2014.02.05 00:18:00 -
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Senn Denroth wrote:I don't think the thread is titled in a manner that it will answer the overarching question of: are you in it for fun, or are you in it to win?
That question in it self is misleading because those that only take part in fights they think they can win or not, may only fight 33% of the time. In my books that's not a win because it would mean you are sitting in a POS not taking part in the game.
In WH space I've noticed that there are two groups of players.
Group A -
* Are in the game to have fun, but also have common sense and tactics.
* They do not pass up on a fight even if they're outnumbered 2:1 (something about the triple 3 fleet: 3 Loki, 3 Guardians, 3 Tengu, and 1 Moros with massive gonads)
* Will jump capital ships in to a mass reduced hole to secure a fight. Even in to someones home where they could be out escalated 10 fold on capital numbers.
* When are killed type GF in local
Group B -
* POS up straight away when they notice a new sig or ship on scan.
* Reduce mass or close wormholes to avoid fights that they think they might lose. May make excuses such as, not our prime time or, you took too long to bring a fight so we closed it.
* POS up when unable to roll the connection safely.
* Will not fight unless they have 3:1 odds.
* Farmers.
* May sometimes pose to be a corp/alliance that comes under Group A, but just so they don't get evicted or invaded and just get left alone to go back to farming.
Thankfully and proudly I know what group I sit under, I pay for this game to play it and contribute not sit around and ship spin.
P.S. Confirming that Sky Fighters seem to have balls the likes of which that horses roam around with.
Team Pizza tries VERY hard to be in group A. We gave no problem going balls deep, and fight for the fight, not efficiency. Complaining about our kill board ratio is a sure way to not make it through our trial period. Lots of good WH groups in this thread.
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Hidden Fremen
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
300
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Posted - 2014.02.05 00:21:00 -
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TIL - Everything is a batphone now.
I don't always post in >Wormholes>, but when I do, I immediately regret it because the thread is so sh*t... |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
875
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Posted - 2014.02.05 00:21:00 -
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In wormhole space, Pizza delivers you.
No trolling please |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
875
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Posted - 2014.02.05 00:31:00 -
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Hidden Fremen wrote:TIL - Everything is a batphone now.
Shut up before I call NoHo 
No trolling please |
Alundil
Sky Fighters
392
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Posted - 2014.02.05 04:24:00 -
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Every. time. it's. Presented.
Quite fun.
Clone mechanics enchancements
Deep Space Probe Revival |
Vordak Kallager
Mafia Redux
Phobia.
556
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Posted - 2014.02.05 06:10:00 -
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We'll fight anyone, anytime in anything, unless it's obvious we're going to just die w/out having a chance to kill anything. 
Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
TurboX3
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
43
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Posted - 2014.02.05 09:06:00 -
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I will only fight if I get SRP!
No Trolling Please |
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