The ways to gank others in highsec are getting less and less, meanwhile CCP appear to be pandering to the ignorant, the lazy and the AFK, primarily because those groups of people keep whining to CCP when their stuff goes boom. They won't rest until highsec becomes the equivalent of a kids playground with no sharp edges or pointy objects, because they refuse to adapt to the dangers present.

Burn Apanake looks to be a protest by highsec gankers against the constant nerfing of their chosen playstyle and the gentrification of highsec. TBH I can't fault them for organising it, they've seen their playstyle getting nerfed time and time again over the years, while constantly adapting to the new constraints on what they do, unlike other groups who just whinge.

Of course he's a douche, he's a Goon. He's also absolutely right.

one simple bug that last 2 months, ganker cry about how CPP make it hard for them

it is like if they forget how to gank before bug exist...

Its a form of player protest because every day CCP slowly makes more concessions to carebears and makes it JUST THAT MUCH more of a single player game.

Here in C&P, we are about group activities, such as the one being planned for saturday. If you dont like it, get a fleet together (youll need to do this non-solo) and come to the party. You also wont make any ISK. (OH GOD!)

Missioners: make sure to petition all of your losses. CCP will totally whisk your ships back into exsistance because ganking is cheating/exploit and CONCORD is suppose to make you not die.

I have to respectfully disagree.

Bugs are not supposed to be in-game. Burn Jita was against micro-transactions. I would have taken part in that if I could have gotten into Jita without my client crashing from overload.

This however is a protest over CCP's doing their job and dealing a bug. As for other comments that there are less and less ways to gank, I presume you refer to the 'impersonation' clause added to the TOS/EULA that stops you impersonating other players for the purpose of scamming.

Put simply, no matter how much you whine or organize 'burn' events, CCP is not going to purposely break a mechanic just to make non-concord ganking easier.

Who cares? You are still perfectly capable of going out and blowing the crap out of any pilot you want or even challenging them to a duel should the fancy take you.

If its too lard to shoot people in high sec, why not visit some of the 'island' low secs (low sec systems surrounded by high sec) as some can be just as active as high sec...with the added bonus that you blow up the poor sods without worrying about CONCORD.

I have to respectfully disagree.

Bugs are not supposed to be in-game. Burn Jita was against micro-transactions. I would have taken part in that if I could have gotten into Jita without my client crashing from overload.


This however is a protest over CCP's doing their job and dealing a bug. As for other comments that there are less and less ways to gank, I presume you refer to the 'impersonation' clause added to the TOS/EULA that stops you impersonating other players for the purpose of scamming.

Put simply, no matter how much you whine or organize 'burn' events, CCP is not going to purposely break a mechanic just to make non-concord ganking easier.

Who cares? You are still perfectly capable of going out and blowing the crap out of any pilot you want or even challenging them to a duel should the fancy take you.

If its too lard to shoot people in high sec, why not visit some of the 'island' low secs (low sec systems surrounded by high sec) as some can be just as active as high sec...with the added bonus that you blow up the poor sods without worrying about CONCORD.

You're one of those e-honour people aren't you?

I have to respectfully disagree.

Bugs are not supposed to be in-game. Burn Jita was against micro-transactions. I would have taken part in that if I could have gotten into Jita without my client crashing from overload.

This however is a protest over CCP's doing their job and dealing a bug. As for other comments that there are less and less ways to gank, I presume you refer to the 'impersonation' clause added to the TOS/EULA that stops you impersonating other players for the purpose of scamming.

Put simply, no matter how much you whine or organize 'burn' events, CCP is not going to purposely break a mechanic just to make non-concord ganking easier.

Who cares? You are still perfectly capable of going out and blowing the crap out of any pilot you want or even challenging them to a duel should the fancy take you.

If its too lard to shoot people in high sec, why not visit some of the 'island' low secs (low sec systems surrounded by high sec) as some can be just as active as high sec...with the added bonus that you blow up the poor sods without worrying about CONCORD.

The point is that it wasn't a bug. It wasn't an exploit. It was working as intended and had undergone play testing on sisi. The bears cry about it and its "fixed".

The gank fittings I contracted over are a gift to high sec that I had sitting around. There is no need for repayment. Remove me from the payout equation please.

While high sec missioners think this is some whine thread, let's be clear, gankers everywhere just want an excuse to throw a party and have some fun. If that means that you lose your ship, your pod, your loot, or if you have to relocate or not mission for a day, keep in mind that it's all for the greater good.

You and many others had a pretty good time til someone pulled the puppet strings and told you to be upset.

I stand corrected, a search of our names together in Google shows many of your tears.

You are of course still welcome, along with the rest of community, to come blow stuff up for free.

Warning: gankee tears are highly addictive.

I prefer ganker tears.

Ok, then I propose that you show up in an officer fit Nestor and troll us when we can't blow it up while you're afk on a gate.

The gank fittings I contracted over are a gift to high sec that I had sitting around. There is no need for repayment. Remove me from the payout equation please.

While high sec missioners think this is some whine thread, let's be clear, gankers everywhere just want an excuse to throw a party and have some fun. If that means that you lose your ship, your pod, your loot, or if you have to relocate or not mission for a day, keep in mind that it's all for the greater good.

How did the event go? I'm asking for a friend.

T2 marauders

To put it in perspective for the detractors of this event:

1. To not go into limited engagement the players had to set their drone settings correctly. That's it pretty much for them not to get ganked. It's really simple step, it's not complicated.

When surprised by their ignorance of how something works rather than learn how to properly use something new in the game it was easier to complain until the thing they don't like gets nerfed by the game developer annoying people who liked it the way it was.

In my opinion ignorance followed by outrage brought on by their own ignorance should not triumph over people taking the time to learn and use the game as the designers intended.

2. If running ganks is how a group wants to play the game - whether for protest or fun (or both) then be grateful that they warned you it was coming by posting it here.

Aaaaaaand now to go that empty top belt and mine while making dinner....

And even 'mission bots' it there is such a stupid thing!

When miners made a bag full of isk they were bots, now missioners are making stacks they are bots... You should listen you yourselves!

Here's an idea why not let each person play the game THEY pay for instead of trying to make them play something you want them to play.

I love pirate/ganker tears, they're sweeter than carebears.... And even 'mission bots' it there is such a stupid thing! When miners made a bag full of isk they were bots, now missioners are making stacks they are bots... You should listen you yourselves!

Here's an idea why not let each person play the game THEY pay for instead of trying to make them play something you want them to play.

Please, please, please post some sort of clever rebuttal trying to make out that I'm part of a pigeon hole you believe I play!

lolz

Didn't meet my goals of ~20b in damage done, but we did a lot more than we took. Turned out our -10 players weren't of any real use at all so our numbers were lower.

It seems that some minor nullsec corp wanted to mess with us and they had someone in our fleet. My suspicion was that they wanted to protect mission botting alts - as soon as I told people in fleet to look out for missioners in their corp and report any that seemed to be botting, all of their missioners fled the area and their instalock station camp followed just behind. Not enough proof of botting to forward anything to CCP (I only report bots when I'm 90% sure, not 60% as was the case here), but it was interesting that the main resistance came from 0.0 players who appear to generate income from highsec mission bots.

One white knight CONCORDOOKENED himself attempting to smartbomb a flashy red Catalyst that was providing an armed escort for a pubbie Venture, which was entertaining. Sadly their foray into suicide ganking did not achieve a satisfactory result for anyone, as the Venture escaped. One gankee (at least) had their eyes opened to what EVE can be, and is now interested in getting involved in the New Order.

It's also abundantly clear that Marauders are totally overpowered in highsec, after a marauder managed to active tank something like 29 catalysts at once. (We did know in advance that the marauder in question was officer fit, and the character name has been forwarded to better resourced ganking operations for euthanisation).


All in all, the biggest success was forcing highseccers to fight back and watching them actually do so, in some cases quite effectively. EVE in Apanake was not a single player game which was a change from the usual.