What we want: Catalyst pilots (low or high skilled), Vexor pilots (high skilled), Thrasher pilots, experienced podcatchers, scouts, people with experience with combat scanning probes (anyone that's lived in a wormhole in particular), and even total newbs in light tackle.

until we encounter resistance. If we encounter resistance that makes using that station dangerous, we will use alternate locations in the immediate area.

There is a level 4 sisters agent 3 jumps from Hek. It's a much better location. The bears are sent to several different 0.5 systems to earn their loyalty points. It'll be easier to sort concord and you can have multiple irons in the fire if you utilize that particular system.

Lanngisi

Amateurs.

In memory of the Mobile Tractor Unit shenanigans, several of the internet spaceship thugs behind the New Order, the Belligerent Undesirables and other sources of carnage and chaos in EVE would like to invite you to an evening of carnage, chaos and tears in the Sisters of EVE level 4 system Apanake this weekend.

We'll be hunting down extravagant mission ships, chasing carebears into missions, reducing their hulls to scrap and harvesting expensive modules and priceless tears from the wrecks.

With special celebrity fleet commander Psychotic Monk, and a large stash of free gank Catalysts, a great time is bound to be had by all.
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Highsec is worth killing for.

I'm not sure I follow the logic of burning Apanake when Osmon has twice the targets but I'm down if I can find some time this weekend.

So let me get this straight.

Because CCP did their job and removed a bug, you are going to go out and harass as many players as you can just cause the removal of said bug makes it SLIGHTLY harder to kill people.

To quote an excuse from one of you New Order guys, you have plenty of ways to gank...use them.

But don;t whine about it with some poxy 'burn Apanake' event. Makes you look like you are 4 years old.

one simple bug that last 2 months, ganker cry about how CPP make it hard for them

it is like if they forget how to gank before bug exist...

I'll spell it out for you.

It's nothing to do about making ganking hard. It's got everything to do with the fact CCP removed a mechanic that allowed emergent game play to occur. Worse: In doing so, CCP removed the mechanic that favoured only one type of player: AFK HiSec mission runners.

They removed a fun part of the game to help a portion of the player base ... not play the game.

Awesome.

one simple bug that last 2 months, ganker cry about how CPP make it hard for them

it is like if they forget how to gank before bug exist...

To quote an excuse from one of you New Order guys, you have plenty of ways to gank...use them.

I'll spell it out for you.

It's nothing to do about making ganking hard. It's got everything to do with the fact CCP removed a mechanic that allowed emergent game play to occur. Worse: In doing so, CCP removed the mechanic that favoured only one type of player: AFK HiSec mission runners.

They removed a fun part of the game to help a portion of the player base ... not play the game.

Awesome.

Douche.

I think them removing that mechanic from the mtu is the right thing to do. I also believe that ganking people in high sec is funny as shiit, so i endorse this venture.

The ways to gank others in highsec are getting less and less, meanwhile CCP appear to be pandering to the ignorant, the lazy and the AFK, primarily because those groups of people keep whining to CCP when their stuff goes boom. They won't rest until highsec becomes the equivalent of a kids playground with no sharp edges or pointy objects, because they refuse to adapt to the dangers present.

Burn Apanake looks to be a protest by highsec gankers against the constant nerfing of their chosen playstyle and the gentrification of highsec. TBH I can't fault them for organising it, they've seen their playstyle getting nerfed time and time again over the years, while constantly adapting to the new constraints on what they do, unlike other groups who just whinge.

Of course he's a douche, he's a Goon. He's also absolutely right.

one simple bug that last 2 months, ganker cry about how CPP make it hard for them

it is like if they forget how to gank before bug exist...

Its a form of player protest because every day CCP slowly makes more concessions to carebears and makes it JUST THAT MUCH more of a single player game.

Here in C&P, we are about group activities, such as the one being planned for saturday. If you dont like it, get a fleet together (youll need to do this non-solo) and come to the party. You also wont make any ISK. (OH GOD!)

Missioners: make sure to petition all of your losses. CCP will totally whisk your ships back into exsistance because ganking is cheating/exploit and CONCORD is suppose to make you not die.

I have to respectfully disagree.

Bugs are not supposed to be in-game. Burn Jita was against micro-transactions. I would have taken part in that if I could have gotten into Jita without my client crashing from overload.

This however is a protest over CCP's doing their job and dealing a bug. As for other comments that there are less and less ways to gank, I presume you refer to the 'impersonation' clause added to the TOS/EULA that stops you impersonating other players for the purpose of scamming.

Put simply, no matter how much you whine or organize 'burn' events, CCP is not going to purposely break a mechanic just to make non-concord ganking easier.

Who cares? You are still perfectly capable of going out and blowing the crap out of any pilot you want or even challenging them to a duel should the fancy take you.

If its too lard to shoot people in high sec, why not visit some of the 'island' low secs (low sec systems surrounded by high sec) as some can be just as active as high sec...with the added bonus that you blow up the poor sods without worrying about CONCORD.

I have to respectfully disagree.

Bugs are not supposed to be in-game. Burn Jita was against micro-transactions. I would have taken part in that if I could have gotten into Jita without my client crashing from overload.


This however is a protest over CCP's doing their job and dealing a bug. As for other comments that there are less and less ways to gank, I presume you refer to the 'impersonation' clause added to the TOS/EULA that stops you impersonating other players for the purpose of scamming.

Put simply, no matter how much you whine or organize 'burn' events, CCP is not going to purposely break a mechanic just to make non-concord ganking easier.

Who cares? You are still perfectly capable of going out and blowing the crap out of any pilot you want or even challenging them to a duel should the fancy take you.

If its too lard to shoot people in high sec, why not visit some of the 'island' low secs (low sec systems surrounded by high sec) as some can be just as active as high sec...with the added bonus that you blow up the poor sods without worrying about CONCORD.

You're one of those e-honour people aren't you?

I have to respectfully disagree.

Bugs are not supposed to be in-game. Burn Jita was against micro-transactions. I would have taken part in that if I could have gotten into Jita without my client crashing from overload.

This however is a protest over CCP's doing their job and dealing a bug. As for other comments that there are less and less ways to gank, I presume you refer to the 'impersonation' clause added to the TOS/EULA that stops you impersonating other players for the purpose of scamming.

Put simply, no matter how much you whine or organize 'burn' events, CCP is not going to purposely break a mechanic just to make non-concord ganking easier.

Who cares? You are still perfectly capable of going out and blowing the crap out of any pilot you want or even challenging them to a duel should the fancy take you.

If its too lard to shoot people in high sec, why not visit some of the 'island' low secs (low sec systems surrounded by high sec) as some can be just as active as high sec...with the added bonus that you blow up the poor sods without worrying about CONCORD.

The point is that it wasn't a bug. It wasn't an exploit. It was working as intended and had undergone play testing on sisi. The bears cry about it and its "fixed".

The gank fittings I contracted over are a gift to high sec that I had sitting around. There is no need for repayment. Remove me from the payout equation please.

While high sec missioners think this is some whine thread, let's be clear, gankers everywhere just want an excuse to throw a party and have some fun. If that means that you lose your ship, your pod, your loot, or if you have to relocate or not mission for a day, keep in mind that it's all for the greater good.

You and many others had a pretty good time til someone pulled the puppet strings and told you to be upset.

I stand corrected, a search of our names together in Google shows many of your tears.

You are of course still welcome, along with the rest of community, to come blow stuff up for free.

Warning: gankee tears are highly addictive.

I prefer ganker tears.

Ok, then I propose that you show up in an officer fit Nestor and troll us when we can't blow it up while you're afk on a gate.

The gank fittings I contracted over are a gift to high sec that I had sitting around. There is no need for repayment. Remove me from the payout equation please.

While high sec missioners think this is some whine thread, let's be clear, gankers everywhere just want an excuse to throw a party and have some fun. If that means that you lose your ship, your pod, your loot, or if you have to relocate or not mission for a day, keep in mind that it's all for the greater good.

How did the event go? I'm asking for a friend.

T2 marauders

To put it in perspective for the detractors of this event:

1. To not go into limited engagement the players had to set their drone settings correctly. That's it pretty much for them not to get ganked. It's really simple step, it's not complicated.

When surprised by their ignorance of how something works rather than learn how to properly use something new in the game it was easier to complain until the thing they don't like gets nerfed by the game developer annoying people who liked it the way it was.

In my opinion ignorance followed by outrage brought on by their own ignorance should not triumph over people taking the time to learn and use the game as the designers intended.

2. If running ganks is how a group wants to play the game - whether for protest or fun (or both) then be grateful that they warned you it was coming by posting it here.

Aaaaaaand now to go that empty top belt and mine while making dinner....

And even 'mission bots' it there is such a stupid thing!

When miners made a bag full of isk they were bots, now missioners are making stacks they are bots... You should listen you yourselves!

Here's an idea why not let each person play the game THEY pay for instead of trying to make them play something you want them to play.

I love pirate/ganker tears, they're sweeter than carebears.... And even 'mission bots' it there is such a stupid thing! When miners made a bag full of isk they were bots, now missioners are making stacks they are bots... You should listen you yourselves!

Here's an idea why not let each person play the game THEY pay for instead of trying to make them play something you want them to play.

Please, please, please post some sort of clever rebuttal trying to make out that I'm part of a pigeon hole you believe I play!

lolz

Didn't meet my goals of ~20b in damage done, but we did a lot more than we took. Turned out our -10 players weren't of any real use at all so our numbers were lower.

It seems that some minor nullsec corp wanted to mess with us and they had someone in our fleet. My suspicion was that they wanted to protect mission botting alts - as soon as I told people in fleet to look out for missioners in their corp and report any that seemed to be botting, all of their missioners fled the area and their instalock station camp followed just behind. Not enough proof of botting to forward anything to CCP (I only report bots when I'm 90% sure, not 60% as was the case here), but it was interesting that the main resistance came from 0.0 players who appear to generate income from highsec mission bots.

One white knight CONCORDOOKENED himself attempting to smartbomb a flashy red Catalyst that was providing an armed escort for a pubbie Venture, which was entertaining. Sadly their foray into suicide ganking did not achieve a satisfactory result for anyone, as the Venture escaped. One gankee (at least) had their eyes opened to what EVE can be, and is now interested in getting involved in the New Order.

It's also abundantly clear that Marauders are totally overpowered in highsec, after a marauder managed to active tank something like 29 catalysts at once. (We did know in advance that the marauder in question was officer fit, and the character name has been forwarded to better resourced ganking operations for euthanisation).


All in all, the biggest success was forcing highseccers to fight back and watching them actually do so, in some cases quite effectively. EVE in Apanake was not a single player game which was a change from the usual.

Yes, yes there is. Get your head out your ass and open your eyes. (In that order, or it's unpleasant)



It's not money making that people have the problem with.



If the people were actually playing it would be fine. But automated spaceships is bad m'kay.

Big mouth for a guy hiding behind a two month old NPC corp alt...

Personally I don't live in highsec and love blowing up ships and getting blown up myself. You gankers should try it sometime, I promise you it is more fun when the targets shoot back.

+1
Confirming as being more fun and addicting. Making decisions on the fly and changing tactics to gain the edge is much better than approach>lock>F1>wait for concord>repeat. That sounds awfully... botish to me in fact....

Confirming we have found proof right here that gankers never gank gankers. Ganking is 100% safe stuff. It's easier than roaming low/null in a fleet and pressing F1 on the command of your FC, because people won't shoot at gankers and stuff.

Furthermore low sec is more fun because you never expect that a player might shoot you back in low sec. It's all down to chance really.

HIgh sec on the otherhand is clearly easier because nobody ganks gankers in high sec ever!!!!

confirming you are trying too hard to sound badass

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21686985

Ur tears are DELICIOUS

No mate I suck at pvp I'm not badass just trying to have some fun in a video game

Maybe next time blap them with arty thrashers on the undock

Nah they'd have lost very little to it, they were basically doing exactly that themselves so their losses would have been tiny and ours would have been more. Plus they had the advantage of remote sensor boosts already going.

We had a strategy that would have been disruptive had we realised earlier that they had ears in our voice comms - we recognised that they were buying killrights extremely quickly on us, presumably without time to look at the price, so we set a couple of 1 billion ISK public KRs up on our highsec legal people. Unfortunately, we did this at a time when they had the intel advantage.

A lack of opsec was the price we had to pay to be accessible to newbies - and I don't think I'd make that decision differently if I did it again tomorrow. Getting new players into the multiplayer side of EVE is critical to the game's future.

A lack of opsec was the price we had to pay to be accessible to newbies - and I don't think I'd make that decision differently if I did it again tomorrow. Getting new players into the multiplayer side of EVE is critical to the game's future.

We totally met our goal of the evening, we wanted fun and we got tons of it.

It started with a hand full guys who wanted to farm some lp's for the new SoE ship types.

During our missions has been some chatter about your op and this post in the locals around Apanake.
A quick vote and we switched to some antigank ships. The first kills set the stones in motion and more corp mates joined us. We never had the intention to protect anybody, especially no bots. We just wanted to have some spontaneous fun, or you could say we were at the right place on the right time.

Btw we never needed any ears in your comms, we have eyes and are able do to check the stations where you are docked. And we left because we were bored of you hiding in the station like, i love to write this right now, CAREBEARS!

My personal opinions about ops like yours:
Some spoiled (not always)rich kids are trying to ruin somebodies evening, which this somebody usually works hard for.

And please stop trying to clear you consciousness by calling your victims bots, you just crave for easy high value kill mails and wont go the extra mile to earn it honestly. At least be honest to yourself.

We totally met our goal of the evening, we wanted fun and we got tons of it.

It started with a hand full guys who wanted to farm some lp's for the new SoE ship types.

During our missions has been some chatter about your op and this post in the locals around Apanake.
A quick vote and we switched to some antigank ships. The first kills set the stones in motion and more corp mates joined us. We never had the intention to protect anybody, especially no bots. We just wanted to have some spontaneous fun, or you could say we were at the right place on the right time.

Btw we never needed any ears in your comms, we have eyes and are able do to check the stations where you are docked. And we left because we were bored of you hiding in the station like, i love to write this right now, CAREBEARS!

My personal opinions about ops like yours:
Some spoiled (not always)rich kids are trying to ruin somebodies evening, which this somebody usually works hard for.

And please stop trying to clear you consciousness by calling your victims bots, you just crave for easy high value kill mails and wont go the extra mile to earn it honestly. At least be honest to yourself.

We totally met our goal of the evening, we wanted fun and we got tons of it.

It started with a hand full guys who wanted to farm some lp's for the new SoE ship types.

During our missions has been some chatter about your op and this post in the locals around Apanake.
A quick vote and we switched to some antigank ships. The first kills set the stones in motion and more corp mates joined us. We never had the intention to protect anybody, especially no bots. We just wanted to have some spontaneous fun, or you could say we were at the right place on the right time.

Btw we never needed any ears in your comms, we have eyes and are able do to check the stations where you are docked. And we left because we were bored of you hiding in the station like, i love to write this right now, CAREBEARS!

My personal opinions about ops like yours:
Some spoiled (not always)rich kids are trying to ruin somebodies evening, which this somebody usually works hard for.

And please stop trying to clear you consciousness by calling your victims bots, you just crave for easy high value kill mails and wont go the extra mile to earn it honestly. At least be honest to yourself.