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LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2014.02.01 01:19:00 -
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Does anyone have solution to a problem with Alienware computers?
I try to dual-box with 2 clients and after a few minutes both clients crash, problem seems to be related to AlienFX part of my Alienware X51 desktop.
I searched forums, back in 2011 Devs did some work on it, but that thread has been locked.
Anyone else have a x51 R2 64bit machine that they use to dual-box on? Do you end up having to turn off Alien software? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.02.01 01:23:00 -
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2014.02.01 01:25:00 -
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I'm not sure what the Alien software does, but if it's not contributing to the game then of course you should shut it down while playing. Along with anything else tying up your processor. Torrents, active virus scan and that kind of stuff.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2014.02.01 01:37:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I'm not sure what the Alien software does, but if it's not contributing to the game then of course you should shut it down while playing. Along with anything else tying up your processor. Torrents, active virus scan and that kind of stuff. Mr Epeen
its Dell's all-in-one software that controls the machine - power settings, cpu, all sorts of stuff i never even looked at, and, of course, the exterior lights on the unit. I cant play EVE without my computer changing to deep green coloration for the duration of the session, you know :))
But seriously, its I think a software conflict between software that controls the machine's lights, and multiple clients of the same program (EVE). I dont think it can handle dual-boxing, wasnt designed to interpret multiple instances of same program.
I turned if off of course, but now i cant change the color of my computer. Its of course nothing important, but, its a bug of some sort. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:07:00 -
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Good to know about this. I'm personally considering an X51 myself (also looking at the 14 and 17 laptops).
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:18:00 -
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Being that I was ready to pull my hair out editing .nif files I took a break and googled your problem.
Not much luck and I use a home-built so I can't test stuff for myself since it's a pristine system (for the most part) with no proprietary software added.
It might just be a coincidence though. I had the same problem until I set the game to run on DX9. I went from CTD with two clients at DX11 to smooth as silk with four clients at DX9. Click the little gear icon on the launcher and see what version you are running. If you need to, switch it to DX9 and see how things run.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Thead Enco
Killing is Business
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:21:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Does anyone have solution to a problem with Alienware computers?
I try to dual-box with 2 clients and after a few minutes both clients crash, problem seems to be related to AlienFX part of my Alienware X51 desktop.
I searched forums, back in 2011 Devs did some work on it, but that thread has been locked.
Anyone else have a x51 R2 64bit machine that they use to dual-box on? Do you end up having to turn off Alien software?
Dell is still **** for gaming rigs
"Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king."
Tywin Lannister-á |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
1962
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:46:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:I'm not sure what the Alien software does, but if it's not contributing to the game then of course you should shut it down while playing. Along with anything else tying up your processor. Torrents, active virus scan and that kind of stuff. Mr Epeen its Dell's all-in-one software that controls the machine - power settings, cpu, all sorts of stuff i never even looked at, and, of course, the exterior lights on the unit. I cant play EVE without my computer changing to deep green coloration for the duration of the session, you know :)) But seriously, its I think a software conflict between software that controls the machine's lights, and multiple clients of the same program (EVE). I dont think it can handle dual-boxing, wasnt designed to interpret multiple instances of same program. I turned if off of course, but now i cant change the color of my computer. Its of course nothing important, but, its a bug of some sort.
I can't see why, but then again I can't see ever wanting the computer to change color depending on what its doing.
ok, if its possible, then I would guess you are on the right track with a conflict between the light controller and having it get hit with multiple states due to having 2 clients running, although I would really expect the controller to give up before freaking out and crashing an application.
what video card are you using? is this related to the AMD issues with 1.1?
if your driver goes boom, it will take both clients with it, at least it should.
otherwise I would look at killing the process for the light controller software
just because the software controls all the stuff you say it does does not mean that it needs to be running for your machine to work. cpu settings and all that other junk is in bios, so at best this software allows you to adjust settings, but its just a tool, not an active part of your machine, or at least it shouldn't be.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:51:00 -
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Thead Enco wrote:Dell is still **** for gaming rigs
I have personal experience and numerous friends which say otherwise.
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1031
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:12:00 -
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I have an alienware m18x R2, and I've never had this problem. Just saying...
Also, alien fx really adds to the eve experience imo. Keyboard flashes teal when you're pointed, changes color depending on your cap level, and flashes orange/red when your in armor/structure. Other effects exist too. I like it. 
If you have issues, right-click the alien icon on your tray and select 'go dark', will disable the effects. |
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Esab
United Divided
Some Say
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Posted - 2014.02.01 07:38:00 -
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It has been a very long time since I have posted on the forums. In fact I think this is the first time since they have changed to the new format.
The word 'Alienware' caught my eye though as I was doing my usual casual browsing and I really felt that I should add my comments to this post.
A few years ago I decided after much deliberation to treat myself so to speak and forked out over -ú2000 on an Alienware laptop.
It has to be one of the worst ever experiences I have ever had. ( apart from a ex wife but thats a complete other story) I could go into detail but wont bore you with all that. (unless of course you really want me to! But you will have to wait until later. I have dogs to walk )
Long story short it was trouble from pretty much the first week onwards. Overheating..crashing continually. Numerous contact with them had me spending hours running tests and reinstalling allsorts. They had it back and then returned it just for same to happen again.
Eventually they agreed to replace complete machine but with absolutly no warrenty. That one died also within a few months. I could have had it fixed but was near -ú600 to do so.
The above all happened over a period of a year or so. ( I still have all the correspondence somewhere)
I would never ever ( and I mean EVER) reccomend to anyone to buy an Alienware product.
Massive dissapointment and a lot of money wasted.
Esab
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Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
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Posted - 2014.02.01 08:20:00 -
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Esab wrote: apart from a ex wife but thats a complete other story I could go into detail but wont bore you with all that. unless of course you really want me to!
Massive dissapointment and a lot of money wasted.
Yeah, I'd like to know more about your life with your ex wife!
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Kryptik Kai
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.01 08:33:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Does anyone have solution to a problem with Alienware computers?
You don't have to turn the software itself off. There is an option in the EVE settings to make the client not interact with the AlienFX software.
"Shiny.-á Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb |
Duke Dantez
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2014.02.01 11:10:00 -
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I got a fix! I was having the same issues today with my Alienware M17x R3. When I log on with duel clients I get a video card failure when I alt tab.
All I had to do was switch to DirectX 9 and everything works fine now. Open your launcher, open the settings window, select the DirectX tab, and select DirectX 9 from the pull down |
Duke Dantez
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2014.02.01 11:19:00 -
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Esab wrote:It has been a very long time since I have posted on the forums. In fact I think this is the first time since they have changed to the new format.
The word 'Alienware' caught my eye though as I was doing my usual casual browsing and I really felt that I should add my comments to this post.
A few years ago I decided after much deliberation to treat myself so to speak and forked out over -ú2000 on an Alienware laptop.
It has to be one of the worst ever experiences I have ever had. ( apart from a ex wife but thats a complete other story) I could go into detail but wont bore you with all that. (unless of course you really want me to! But you will have to wait until later. I have dogs to walk )
Long story short it was trouble from pretty much the first week onwards. Overheating..crashing continually. Numerous contact with them had me spending hours running tests and reinstalling allsorts. They had it back and then returned it just for same to happen again.
Eventually they agreed to replace complete machine but with absolutly no warrenty. That one died also within a few months. I could have had it fixed but was near -ú600 to do so.
The above all happened over a period of a year or so. ( I still have all the correspondence somewhere)
I would never ever ( and I mean EVER) reccomend to anyone to buy an Alienware product.
Massive dissapointment and a lot of money wasted.
Esab
That sucks. I have heard a few horror stories about overheating on some alienware laptops. Just curious, what size was yours? I've had a M17xR3 for about 3 years and it has literally never crashed on me. Never seen the BSD and the performance is still awesome (every game on max settings).
That being said I will probably never buy a gaming laptop again either. At 12 pounds it really is just a mobile desktop. For the same money I probably should have built a desktop for and get a MacBook Air 13'' for mobility.
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Esha Ditrix
Rexx's Rangers
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Posted - 2014.02.01 11:22:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Thead Enco wrote:Dell is still **** for gaming rigs I have personal experience and numerous friends which say otherwise.
do they work for dell ?
Its not an exploit, if the game lets you do it... |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8886
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Posted - 2014.02.01 11:26:00 -
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Esha Ditrix wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Thead Enco wrote:Dell is still **** for gaming rigs I have personal experience and numerous friends which say otherwise. do they work for dell ?
No.
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Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
176
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Posted - 2014.02.01 11:30:00 -
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Esab wrote:
Massive dissapointment and a lot of money wasted.
Esab
i hav saem prublem wif yur muthr |
Doc Severide
State War Academy
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2014.02.01 12:52:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Esha Ditrix wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Thead Enco wrote:Dell is still **** for gaming rigs I have personal experience and numerous friends which say otherwise. do they work for dell ? No.
And Dell still makes the best Monitors out there IMO. I have several of them including 2 30 Inch. They are excellent...
Just as an FYI, you might want to look at the ASUS Republic of Gamers laptops if you are in the market to buy. I have 2 of them, 17 Inch Monitors, I7, 16 Gigs, Highest end Nividia Graphics at the time of purchase. They are very nice machines... |
Sirinda
Oberon Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
296
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Posted - 2014.02.01 13:55:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Esha Ditrix wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Thead Enco wrote:Dell is still **** for gaming rigs I have personal experience and numerous friends which say otherwise. do they work for dell ? No. And Dell still makes the best Monitors out there IMO. I have several of them including 2 30 Inch. They are excellent...
I concur, as long as they're panels made by Samsung.
In which case you can probably save money by bying them straight from Samsung. |
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Esab
United Divided
Some Say
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Posted - 2014.02.01 13:59:00 -
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Billy McCandless wrote:
i hav saem prublem wif yur muthr
And there is the reason why I dont bother posting on here anymore
I cant remember off hand the model it was. All I know is I would never ever give them money again.
Esab
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Doc Severide
State War Academy
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:19:00 -
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Sirinda wrote:Doc Severide wrote:
And Dell still makes the best Monitors out there IMO. I have several of them including 2 30 Inch. They are excellent...
I concur, as long as they're panels made by Samsung. In which case you can probably save money by bying them straight from Samsung.
Wrong and Wrong...
1). There are only 4 or 5 manufacturers of Panels in the world. Hitachi makes IPS monitors which are licensed to LG/Philips who make most of the current IPS based panels in the higher quality monitors. The higher up Dell models all use IPS based LG panels.
2). Samsung doesn't even sell 30 Inch Monitors... |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
106
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Posted - 2014.02.01 20:37:00 -
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switching to DX9 seemed to work. no more error message with words 'AlienFX' in it.
i cant find button that says stop interacting with alienware, but i will continue to look for it. |
Kryptik Kai
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.01 21:12:00 -
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Its right here
"Shiny.-á Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb |
Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
190
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Posted - 2014.02.02 15:26:00 -
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I've noticed that my keyboard doesn't light up unless I open and then close the ESC menu in game. Sometimes this creates framerate issues, sometimes it doesn't, and I've crashed only once since Rubicon. Can't remember if I had lights on or off at the time.
The Alienware / EVE keyboard lights can be a ship saver. Love the lights. Hope they get this worked out.
...end transmission...
GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ½ |
Honrado deQuiros
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2014.02.02 16:30:00 -
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Currently, there are crashes that are attributed to the display drivers and there are threads on the linky below that may have other tips and tricks so its worthwhile to peruse some of them.. good luck.
Issues, Workarounds & Localization
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=272 |
Tamista
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.03 00:34:00 -
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alienware computers are a scam |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
2281
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Posted - 2014.02.03 05:20:00 -
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Latest patch broke DirextX 11 support. Switch back to DirectX 9 from the launch window options.
Nullsec in a Nutshell:
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8906
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Posted - 2014.02.03 21:52:00 -
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Tamista wrote:alienware computers are a scam
I decided to test this assertion and went to assemble a computer by parts through pcpartpicker (because **** trying to find all that **** otherwise).
Using reasonably priced parts that were exactly or close enough to the same as a computer I've been itching to buy from Alienware I ended up with a price that was actually roughly $100 more expensive.
If I went for cheaper parts I could probably shave a few hundred off that price but in the end that price is pretty decent when you consider that you end up saving a lot of time and effort spent on looking for parts, checking compatibility, comparing prices, waiting for various parts to arrive (or having to find your nearest Microcenter or what have you), assembling your computer yourself, and hoping everything works. You're also paying for warranties and accidental damage coverages that you don't get when you put computers together yourself.
I'm not saying you have to go out and buy an Alienware if you're looking for a gaming computer but people who say that it's a scam really don't provide any evidence for their assertions.
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