
evil-dreams
Army Ants
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:19:00 -
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If anyone would like too know what our disagreement was over I'll try and explain it here from the very beginning in detail so you can make your own mind as it seems stuart wants your opinions on this matter. I'll try to keep this as factual and without opinion as much as possible.
Basically i created a corp, now don't be fooled by the characters age a good portion of that time the character was not active, so i am a noob, as such, my corp is very noob friendly (i dont have much too offer high sp charachters).
Because of this when we got our first wardec our corp was made up of members ranging from a few days to a month and we were up against a small corp of veteran players.
At that point we had several options;
1) Accept the ransom they eventually gave us (400mil). 2) Disband and reform corp under a different name and hope they don't just wardec that one. 3) dock up anything of value, hide in stations if they are around, always paranoid if doing anything in space and basically not play the game. 4) Completely log off and hope they eventually stop the wardec (extreme version of 4). 5) Ship down to what we can afford to loose repeatedly and fight them in some way.
There are probably many other things we could have done mainly variants of the ones above. Diplomacy might have been one but that just got us the ransom offer and i wasn't going to beg.
There are a few reasons why we didn't go with the first option one being that as we where a noob corp we where poor but even then we would rather loose that money in ships ten times over than pay it in a ransom.
The second option was totally off the table as this was our corp.
Three and four aren't a long term solution either as i pay my subscription too play eve not watch tv while sat at my pc.
So that left us with the last option, which out of the options we had was not only the most agreeable in terms of pride it was the only option that seemed to have some fun to it (most of us are here too fly spaceships right?). So over the next couple of days we get our destroyers out and tried to go look for them hoping maybe too catch one of them on there own, we even went into low and pretended too be pirates XD. However it was a few days later when we finally met our war targets, except for one loss right at the start we hadn't seen sight nor sound of our aggressors and the eventual false sense of security set in it was during a mission run that our invisible foes dropped out of the ether, in our panic to scramble out of there we lost a battle cruiser
Instead of lamenting the loss of the ship we reassembled ourselves quickly and kitted out in the best of t1 destroyers and proceeded to wait outside rens moon 8 brutor tribe hoping if nothing else we would be able to face our mysterious enemy's. Unfortunately our lack of pvp experience and discipline was our undoing here (that and their t2 ships XD) and they undocked as our "fleet" was in the process of docking up to go to bed not that we had high chances of winning in the first place but it did make a right mess of things.
But this did achieve one thing, we finally came to agreement with our enemy's that they would ship down to t1 frigs and destroyers.
So the next day we met them out side of rens brutor tribe in our t1 destroyers and fought them at the same location and while we did not win the fights i think we did a fairly good effort for a group of noob pve chars and most importantly instead of hiding and letting this ruin our game we had fun with the little resources and skill we had and for whatever there reason was after that battle aggressive diplomacy accepted our 0isk surrender.
Now that was all backstory, up too this point stuarts wasn't involved in anyway with the war our only contact with stuarts previously to this was his invitation to join his "unofficial alliance" chat channel which i did as i wanted too keep open the possibility of joining an alliance once we had grown. He also gave some advise on advertising for recruits and popped into our public chat every now and then and that was all up until this point.
Now when the war ended I was happy about it as while I like fighting we were ill equipped to deal with it on a long term basis. So i posted about it in our public chat after that Stuarts started commenting on our stupid tactics (in our public chat) we tried to make him understand that we believe having fun is better than not dying by not logging on and our disagreement escalated to the point where he decided to wardec us, i would just like to point out that this all happened in our public chat with Stuarts bringing his corp mates in too embarrass themselves in an attempt to rile us (if anyone would like a chat log of this incident i would be happy too post that and any other chat logs regarding this whole thing)
As for why aggressive diplomacy are now allies in this war, while this was going on i was still in a conversation with some of the members of aggressive diplomacy, (just chatting and they were giving some advise on pvp) when the notification for the wardec came in. I mentioned too them that i would have too go for a few minutes as we had just been wardeced to wich they asked why we had been wardeced after explaining the situation they offered to help us in the war.
Now hopefully with this information you could possibly help stuarts out with whatever reason he thought he needed to post a forum thread about (because i haven't got a clue why) so he could possibly get back to playing to game.
see you in space stuarts o/ Jason. |