Qayos
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Posted - 2006.04.05 06:50:00 -
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Edited by: Qayos on 05/04/2006 06:52:16
 Originally by: DANGEROUS
having just read the recruitment section of forums (where we offer good pvpers the chance to join a strong corp - namely fate) i read the Eve Defence force post
have a read - its VERY interesting - they have a place for ALL pilots - be it miners, pvpers, Rand D people - all types - -
and THEY control EVERYTHING!!
Now that is NOT a free environment - it is controlled - allows for little freedomw of thought and makes sure u 'pay' or contribtute for all.
ASCN ARE imo an impresive alliance - but lets not kid ourselves that they have anything but the directorships best interestes at heart - and not their members or their territories.
I'm not sure what your point is here. Does FATE allow people to join and simply not contribute to FATE at all? I believe being part of a corporation means contributing to that corporation to benefit the corporation which in turn benefits you and lets you be a part of something greater than yourself. Never has EDF forced someone to join EDF. We are a military organization which has wings which cover many aspects, and allows its members to choose the area that best suits them. I fail to see how this is a bad thing.  We are also always open to new ideas and suggestions from all members, how is this oppression of thought?
As for ASCN, I'm not sure where you get your conclusions from. I see no evidence to support your claims, just empty statements of bias. Which is fine, you are free to your opinion I suppose, but if you want to convince others, I suggest evidence or a supporting argument rather than than hollow assertions.
As for freedom in the galaxy. What is freedom? What is lack of freedom? Is paying taxes a lack of freedom? Is asking that a member of a military organization to follow an order oppression? I think that pretty much any corporation you join, north or south, will limit your freedoms to some degree, but that is part of the deal you make when you join something larger than yourself. The only truely free people in eve are the loners. So is that the only 'right' way to be? Everyone alone? Or is this topic about people taking away freedoms from those outside their corp/alliance? If the latter, I'm sure it can be argued for a long time, with the views biased by individual encounters with each entity in question. I dont like GIRON, and I hope to see them lay in ashes for what they did to ASCN, but I think most of these "you dont allow freedom, no YOU dont allow freedom, NO YOU dont allow freedom" arguments are silly and lack much substance from either side.
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