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Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
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Posted - 2014.02.04 09:24:00 -
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Adams De Cobra wrote:Loraine Gess wrote:Cobra you haven't responded to my post.
I have an infinite (as many as you are capable of buying) amount of shares for you to buy. How many do I need to print to empty your wallet? More importantly, how big is your wallet? I need to know if it's worth the effort to even run the vote. N-EST is used as a last resort if you cannot find anyone who will buy your stock. Have you tried asking others to invest to your corp? If not, I suggest you do that first or ask N-EST to do so. If we don't find anyone that will invest in your stock then N-EST will. But please keep in mind that N-EST will not buy as high as an investor would. Shares are like currency, the more there is of it, the less it's worth. N-EST has no comment on it's finances publicly, however N-EST does make an average weekly profit of 500 million ISK. This number is based on all operations and donations, not just stock trades. Thank you for reminding me, and sorry for the delay.
Please quote me an exchange rate so I can start printing shares. |
Setsune Rin
Collapsed Out
Shadow Cartel
152
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Posted - 2014.02.04 14:29:00 -
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how the hell does a presumably 2y+ pilot not know that corporation stocks are a joke?
they have some VEERRRYYY limited uses, and using them like you would actual RL stocks is not one of them
this entire thread had made me both laught and cringe though, but i thank you for the moments entertainment
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Adams De Cobra
New Eden Stock Exchange
5
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Posted - 2014.02.04 21:08:00 -
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Nedly Stark wrote:Still waiting for question to be answered.
Sorry for the delay. Stocks can change by how well a corporation is doing. For example, if a corporation is getting more kills and less losses then said corporation would have a higher stock price than if it were the other way around. It also depends on how many shares have been created within the corp. For example, A corp that has 1,000 shares would have a higher share price, and a corporation that has 1,000,000 shares would have a lower share price. However, both are variables within the price equation. N-EST may suggest a price on a share if both parties do not agree with each other if wanted. Another variable is how much the buyer is willing to pay for the shares versus what the seller wants for them.
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Adams De Cobra
New Eden Stock Exchange
5
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Posted - 2014.02.04 21:25:00 -
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@Thoraemond:
Q: The phrase "not just stock trades", in that context, suggests that stock trades are something that you've done in the past or are doing now as a source of profit. Is that true? What volume of stock trades have you done (number of clients, number of stocks, amount of ISK that changed hands)? Is there no one who will post a testimonial about your work for them? If, alternatively, the answer is that you have not done any stock trades for profit in the past, why should anyone think you'll be good at this now?
A: Yes, we have done a few stock exchanges in the past, but on a small level, normally around 1-10 thousand shares, and in the past I have worked with a few clients. I don't believe people are posting testimonials because in the past I have worked solo and now I am going to try and grow this type of trade.
Q: How will the "profit" of the trade be determined?
A: Very easily, N-EST will take 10% normally, this can change if we are having some sort of celebration or if you have a higher standing with N-EST. Having a high standing with N-EST is simple; the more trades you do, the higher your standing. And the standing system is easy to fallow. For every point of standing you gain 0.1% tax is reduced from N-EST's profit.
Q: How does either party to such a conversation confirm that the other party is anything other than your alt?
A: I only have one alt and that alt is being deleted. If you would like the name I will post it. However, you can always ask the CEO of the corporation either party is in if they have any alts and who they are. Excluding NPC corporations of course.
Q: By "agents", you mean players, right? How many agents do you have? Who are they?
A: Agents refers to the pilots that work for N-EST, correct. Currently N-EST has two agents, but we do plan on growing. Currently only myself is in the N-EST Corporation, however we are awaiting reply of other pilots. Our other agent's name is Arin De Cobra.
If you have further questions go ahead! |
Adams De Cobra
New Eden Stock Exchange
5
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Posted - 2014.02.04 21:27:00 -
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@Chribba
Q: You are aware that the moment the shares land in the buyers wallet, the selling corp can see who owns shares in their corp right?
A: Yes, I am aware that is why we changed having two convos to only having one. I did not update the original post, that was my fault and I'm sorry for the confusion. |
Nedly Stark
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.02.04 21:41:00 -
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So you could raise a stock price from 100 isk to 15,000 with a snap of the fingers. Seems legit. |
Adams De Cobra
New Eden Stock Exchange
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Posted - 2014.02.04 21:43:00 -
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@Loraine Gess
Please convo or message me and we will work out a deal. Also note that the more shared you "print" the less the shares are worth. However to prove that I'm willing to trade shares with you, Seeing that your corp consists of 4 members, but is highly effective in combat. I would quote your shares, if at 1,000, approximately 25,000 ISK/Share. However, since you are trading with N-EST the deduction will be 20%. This in mind the share price will be reduced to approximately 20,000 ISK/Share. Keep in mind that it is a good idea for the CEO to handle 51% of the shares. N-EST will negotiate on a price for your shares. |
Adams De Cobra
New Eden Stock Exchange
5
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Posted - 2014.02.04 21:46:00 -
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Nedly Stark wrote:So you could raise a stock price from 100 isk to 15,000 with a snap of the fingers. Seems legit.
It wouldn't be in the snap of a finger, it would take time depending upon the circumstances. N-EST however only will offer a price, not dictate the price of the stocks. If that makes sense.
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Nedly Stark
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.02.04 21:58:00 -
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No it doesnt make sense. Price of stocks move on supply & demand through automation when traders buy and sell. I guess what im getting at here is stock valuation and If you dont dictate the stock price, then what/who does? And how? |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
113
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Posted - 2014.02.05 23:11:00 -
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This entire thread is worthless ... except for what Chribba said.
http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |
Eddie Laydon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2014.02.06 02:10:00 -
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I believe most of the people in MD would agree with me when I say that a real stock exchange is something we all want. Unfortunately MD isn't getting any love from the devs these days, so we are stuck with the current [broken] system, which imho makes shares pretty much useless.
If you really want to start a 3rd party service I suggest you go with something much less ambitious than what you are proposing now. Start small, and perhaps in some years time you'll have a large enough clout to at least be taken seriously. |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
163
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Posted - 2014.02.06 05:45:00 -
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Joan Greywind wrote:If something is obviously a scam, and a scam is never what it seems, does that mean this isn't a scam?
Personally I think everything in this subforum that is not a question about some aspect of eve is a scam. Even all these "bonds" and "bank" loans. There is simply no way I will ever believe that they are real, or that the posters claiming to have used the service aren't shills.
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Kingnuts
The Mjolnir Bloc
B O R G
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Posted - 2014.02.06 09:02:00 -
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Shizuken wrote:Joan Greywind wrote:If something is obviously a scam, and a scam is never what it seems, does that mean this isn't a scam? Personally I think everything in this subforum that is not a question about some aspect of eve is a scam. Even all these "bonds" and "bank" loans. There is simply no way I will ever believe that they are real, or that the posters claiming to have used the service aren't shills.
Such wildly inaccurate generalisation only shows your lack of knowledge concerning the matters you are commenting on, I'm afraid. If 'there is simply no way [you] will ever believe they are real' then you are being willfully and deliberately ignorant as your thesis is simply implausible when the facts are considered in a rational manner.
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Percival Rose
Rubicon Resources
6
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Posted - 2014.02.28 20:34:00 -
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I'm a pit paranoid when it comes to anything that requires me to invest my hard earned ISK, but I like the idea of a stock exchange in EVE Online.
Is there any chance CCP will create game mechanics to allow a proper IPO? I'd love to see some hostile takeovers (nice alliance, I'll take it) in the near future.
You know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other. |
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