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Commander Nikolas	Posted - 2006.04.03 09:31:00 - [1] Everyone has those moments where they say to themselves, "Only in eve", in that synical yet endeering way. Today was one of those for me. After finishing up a nice set of operations we get a very odd report from one of our scouts. He keeps saying over TS "I have a Charon class freighter, en-route to Amod". At first we were all kind of shocked since the only freighters that ever come to Amod are our own under heavy escort. The scout continues to trail the freighter and confirms that it has no escort and is non-responsive to requests to identify itself and its cargo. We have been aware of several of our major enemies need to re-supply after recent losses, so we make the decision that the freighter must be neutralized. We set up an Ambush at the Akila stargate in Amod and wait patiently for it to arrive. We brought a cargo scanner to check his hold. Immediatly after the freighter jumps through and sees the battleships waiting at the gate he convos the scout that had been trying to establish contact and begs not to be killed. He claims that he has a cargo hold full of Tritanium. We hold fire on the freighter half way through it's structure and and wait for confirmation of his manifest. The pilot running the scan starts to read off the items on board the freighter and what a suprise. "His hold has a small portion of tritanium, HACs, interceptors, assualt frigates, and T2 gear." I convo the pilot and very clearly explain to him that he is dead, when suddenly he offers to eject if we pay him something for the ship because it isn't insured. I make an offer of 300mil and he accepts. Personally, I assumed he was just stalling for time but then... he ejects... You should have heard the chatter on TeamSpeak... The term shocked barely describes it. The pilot was then told to leave system which he promptly does. I assure him he will be paid once the ship is docked. Then began the long process of finding a pilot, and bringing in remote armor reps to repair the ship. We spent at least 10 minutes tanking the gate guns and gaurding our new ship. After finally making contact with a pilot we knew we could trust and getting the remote armor rep team en-route... there is a big flash of light and the freighter is gone... We confirmed that no one had fired on it, it had 70% shields and 25%+ structure, and for whatever reason it just went boom... I don't think I need to explain how we felt, so I will just end this story with... Only in eve...
duffmantt	Posted - 2006.04.03 09:34:00 - [2] so you actrually lost 300 mill from that? no loot, and you had to pay the guy 300mill to eject. ouch...just...ouch. I Love Primarch Currently recruiting!
ArtemisEntreri	Posted - 2006.04.03 09:35:00 - [3] Edited by: ArtemisEntreri on 03/04/2006 09:35:21 double post
ArtemisEntreri	Posted - 2006.04.03 09:35:00 - [4] actually from what I read they didn't actually pay him and I'm assuming he set to self-destruct
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.04.03 09:37:00 - [5] Ouch You did get fireworks though ? Alliaanna Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-=
Commander Nikolas	Posted - 2006.04.03 09:40:00 - [6] No we told him he would be paid once the ship was in dock. How long does it take to self-destruct a capital ship? We waited the 120 seconds out thinking that is what he had done. The ship didn't go boom until about 10 minutes after he ejected. On another funny note he convoed me and thanked me for being true to our word right after it exploded. Apparently the default insurance payout is 309 mil, so he thought we had docked it and paid him...
Nahia Senne	Posted - 2006.04.03 10:00:00 - [7] Originally by: Commander Nikolas The scout continues to trail the freighter and confirms that it has no escort and is non-responsive to requests to identify itself and its cargo. We have been aware of several of our major enemies need to re-supply after recent losses, so we make the decision that the freighter must be neutralized. what a cool excuse to ransom a freighter
DOGNOSH	Posted - 2006.04.03 10:06:00 - [8] Originally by: Commander Nikolas On another funny note he convoed me and thanked me for being true to our word right after it exploded. Apparently the default insurance payout is 309 mil, so he thought we had docked it and paid him... so he lied to you? funny story,nice ========================================== stop moaning,give CCP a break
Usul Faust	Posted - 2006.04.03 10:09:00 - [9] no, he thought his insurance payout was from the OP's corp. no skills, just luck.
Ben Doon	Posted - 2006.04.03 11:03:00 - [10] Edited by: Ben Doon on 03/04/2006 11:03:38 I'm a bit lost here guys,if he didnt set it to self destruct then why did it explode?? If the pilot set the self distruct then usually you should get a little information box thingy pop up on you're screen telling you he had started the self destruct sequence. Did the sentry guns fire on it because you guys were flagged and you were aiding the ship by repairing it therefore flagging that ship too?? Bad luck on losing the $$$ btw,but hey sh1t happens
Benzmann	Posted - 2006.04.03 11:07:00 - [11] i must do like the title says lol _______________________________________________
Lanfear's Bane	Posted - 2006.04.03 11:14:00 - [12] Selfdestruct messages appear in your logs when the other person initiates it. Doesn't explain the ten minute delay thing, it's two minutes and there is a sixty second delay after you initiate selfdestruct before you can eject (you get some message about sitting back and waiting for the fireworks :) ), so that cuts it down to one minute. Bit rubbish that, such good luck then such bad luck. Much survive in loot? Lanfear's Bane.
Sakura Nihil	Posted - 2006.04.03 11:16:00 - [13] wow, that sucks massive ass gj on everything before that however, yarrrr
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.04.03 11:37:00 - [14] Edited by: LUKEC on 03/04/2006 11:37:48 Wow, nice one. Too bad it went pop. Did you remote rep the freighter or do anything else to boost him while flagged? btw, how's snigg war? Die, die, die.
Zavernus Hamarabi	Posted - 2006.04.03 11:40:00 - [15] Originally by: Lanfear's Bane Selfdestruct messages appear in your logs when the other person initiates it. Doesn't explain the ten minute delay thing, it's two minutes and there is a sixty second delay after you initiate selfdestruct before you can eject (you get some message about sitting back and waiting for the fireworks :) ), so that cuts it down to one minute. Bit rubbish that, such good luck then such bad luck. Much survive in loot? Lanfear's Bane. Freighters dont drop loot.
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.04.03 11:43:00 - [16] Originally by: Zavernus Hamarabi Originally by: Lanfear's Bane Selfdestruct messages appear in your logs when the other person initiates it. Doesn't explain the ten minute delay thing, it's two minutes and there is a sixty second delay after you initiate selfdestruct before you can eject (you get some message about sitting back and waiting for the fireworks :) ), so that cuts it down to one minute. Bit rubbish that, such good luck then such bad luck. Much survive in loot? Lanfear's Bane. Freighters dont drop loot. true, And also its 30seconds before you can eject Alliaanna Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-=
Eepzy Nimbles	Posted - 2006.04.03 11:45:00 - [17] Did you petition?
Lanfear's Bane	Posted - 2006.04.03 11:49:00 - [18] Originally by: Zavernus Hamarabi Originally by: Lanfear's Bane Selfdestruct messages appear in your logs when the other person initiates it. Doesn't explain the ten minute delay thing, it's two minutes and there is a sixty second delay after you initiate selfdestruct before you can eject (you get some message about sitting back and waiting for the fireworks :) ), so that cuts it down to one minute. Bit rubbish that, such good luck then such bad luck. Much survive in loot? Lanfear's Bane. Freighters dont drop loot. Ah I thought cargo survived, didn't know it went with the freighter. Lanfear's Bane.
Yakti	Posted - 2006.04.03 11:56:00 - [19] Originally by: Lanfear's Bane Originally by: Zavernus Hamarabi Originally by: Lanfear's Bane Selfdestruct messages appear in your logs when the other person initiates it. Doesn't explain the ten minute delay thing, it's two minutes and there is a sixty second delay after you initiate selfdestruct before you can eject (you get some message about sitting back and waiting for the fireworks :) ), so that cuts it down to one minute. Bit rubbish that, such good luck then such bad luck. Much survive in loot? Lanfear's Bane. Freighters dont drop loot. Ah I thought cargo survived, didn't know it went with the freighter. Lanfear's Bane. U r really a nubwit :)
Lanfear's Bane	Posted - 2006.04.03 12:03:00 - [20] Originally by: Yakti Originally by: Lanfear's Bane Originally by: Zavernus Hamarabi Originally by: Lanfear's Bane Selfdestruct messages appear in your logs when the other person initiates it. Doesn't explain the ten minute delay thing, it's two minutes and there is a sixty second delay after you initiate selfdestruct before you can eject (you get some message about sitting back and waiting for the fireworks :) ), so that cuts it down to one minute. Bit rubbish that, such good luck then such bad luck. Much survive in loot? Lanfear's Bane. Freighters dont drop loot. Ah I thought cargo survived, didn't know it went with the freighter. Lanfear's Bane. U r really a nubwit :) Heh, well I am not a hauler and I have a very short attention span and memory Lanfear's Bane.
Twilight Moon	Posted - 2006.04.03 12:18:00 - [21] Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 03/04/2006 11:37:48 Did you remote rep the freighter or do anything else to boost him while flagged? That would be it...Remote Reps on a ship that isnt being polited by your corp will result in ship destruction if you are near sentry guns. At least, I seem to remember something else like this happening.
Toksin	Posted - 2006.04.03 12:43:00 - [22] Kinda odd that it would have 70% shield when it exploded. --------------- My views do not reflect the views of my corp, or my own views.
Ebedar	Posted - 2006.04.03 12:50:00 - [23] Yeah as suggested, I'd think that remote repping by someone who was flagged may have caused the sentries to turn on the freighter too. Not sure if that works, but sounds plausible enough. ~ Intel for sale The Dominix: A Documentary Mindset
SkeletonDenial	Posted - 2006.04.03 13:13:00 - [24] Once I ejected from my ship and I got the message "Are you Sure? Sometimes the pilots skills is the only thing holding the ship together." Maybe it had something to do with that. ExCav Recruitment
Rikkard Strofeldt	Posted - 2006.04.03 13:43:00 - [25] Originally by: SkeletonDenial Once I ejected from my ship and I got the message "Are you Sure? Sometimes the pilots skills is the only thing holding the ship together." Maybe it had something to do with that. Yeah, but blowing up 10 mins after the ejections, and with armour and shield? Seems really wierd. A devil I may be, but I am trying to help you. You just don't realise it yet.
Commander Nikolas	Posted - 2006.04.03 13:57:00 - [26] Edited by: Commander Nikolas on 03/04/2006 13:59:40 Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 03/04/2006 11:37:48 Wow, nice one. Too bad it went pop. Did you remote rep the freighter or do anything else to boost him while flagged? btw, how's snigg war? Nope, nobody got to remote rep it before it exploded. We had non-flagged people coming to do that. We weren't sure how the sentries would like a flagged person doing that. In regards to the war it has been up and down for both sides. We figured it was their supplies. I mean seriously why does a freighter full of T2 ships and gear go deep into low sec?
DarkElf	Posted - 2006.04.03 15:07:00 - [27] After checking logs we confirmed that no self destruct message appeared, it was a good 10 minutes before it went pop and no reps were activated on it. One of those random things i'm guessing. i believe it has been petitioned so we'll have to see what they say. apparently i got the final blow on it but unless nos can take out 70% shields then i'm confused. :( and a lesson to the freighter pilot in low sec. If stopped, tell the truth about your cargo, ship scanners are very easy things to grab :) Darkelf
Corb	Posted - 2006.04.03 15:19:00 - [28] Quote: and a lesson to the freighter pilot in low sec. If stopped, tell the truth about your cargo, ship scanners are very easy things to grab :) Ummm...like this would have made a difference in the outcome? What...you guys going to let him go cuz he's being honest?
Twilight Moon	Posted - 2006.04.03 15:20:00 - [29] I know...lets blame... LAG! Its always a solid choice when you dont know what else done it.
Uggster	Posted - 2006.04.03 15:34:00 - [30] Maybe it was the Cursed Frighter of Blageedorm, a frighter, it is said, that is filled with all the most wonderfull things in the world but, it is said, that he who takes possesion of this cursed ship, however fleetingly, is doomed to drown in tears of their own making. It is said.
Lanfear's Bane	Posted - 2006.04.03 15:45:00 - [31] Originally by: Uggster Maybe it was the Cursed Frighter of Blageedorm, a frighter, it is said, that is filled with all the most wonderfull things in the world but, it is said, that he who takes possesion of this cursed ship, however fleetingly, is doomed to drown in tears of their own making. It is said. That's just a polite way for saying OMGBOOHOO isn't it Originally by: Uggster a frighter That some sort of fighter / freighter hybrid? Do you need Scare Tactics Lvl 4 for it? Lanfear's Bane.
Rengret Erekeck	Posted - 2006.04.04 00:35:00 - [32] it doesnt make a lotta sense to me but the whole tactical story sounds cool. better than the "look im killing npcs and im leveling up and im getting a new item and im killing npcs and im leveling up and im getting a new item and im killing npcs and im leveling up and im getting a new item and im killing npcs and im leveling up and im getting a new item" that you find in other MMO's too bad you didnt get your freighter though. ---------------------------- Manufacturer of the highest quality shuttles (no Rengret youre not big enough to advertise yet) (but I want to!) (no...) (but... but...)
Daniel Daly	Posted - 2006.04.04 01:55:00 - [33] Even if they had remote repped it, that wouldn't have cause the freighter to become flagged I don't think. Then you could just remote rep random ships coming through the gate and late the sentries kill them. Only reason I can think for the freighter to get flagged would be if it remote repped you, which is, of course, impossible.
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.04.04 02:09:00 - [34] That is a pretty odd thing to happen. Wonder what the server logs say... Industrial Giants
Sakaki Karazawa	Posted - 2006.04.04 06:47:00 - [35] Reminds me a bit of the guy who saw a huge blue explosion and was bumped back to another system. o_O
Commander Nikolas	Posted - 2006.04.04 13:03:00 - [36] Originally by: Corb Quote: and a lesson to the freighter pilot in low sec. If stopped, tell the truth about your cargo, ship scanners are very easy things to grab :) Ummm...like this would have made a difference in the outcome? What...you guys going to let him go cuz he's being honest? Actually yeah, our main concern was that it was a shipment of ships and supplies for our enemies. His failure to respond and then his dishonesty after being forcefully stopped, pretty much answers the question in my mind about who he was working for. If he had been legit and had a non-military cargo we would have let him go on about his bussiness.
Twilight Moon	Posted - 2006.04.04 14:32:00 - [37] Originally by: Sakaki Karazawa Reminds me a bit of the guy who saw a huge blue explosion and was bumped back to another system. o_O Sounds like drugs tbh. Happens to me all the time... eg: "Wah? Where am I? 0.0 sec? Wtf am I doing here? Why is he targeting me....? . . . . . Oooh....now I'm in a station...."
Donna Darko	Posted - 2006.04.04 14:43:00 - [38] Originally by: Rikkard Strofeldt Originally by: SkeletonDenial Once I ejected from my ship and I got the message "Are you Sure? Sometimes the pilots skills is the only thing holding the ship together." Maybe it had something to do with that. Yeah, but blowing up 10 mins after the ejections, and with armour and shield? Seems really wierd. I wonder if it exploded at the same time with the pilot docking into the station or jumping out of the system? :) Please fix the scan probes!!!
enjoi	Posted - 2006.04.04 16:33:00 - [39] Not sure if anyone posted this yet, and I can't be arsed to read frankly. Nik, the loss could be petitionable. Have the guys in on the kill rake your combat logs excessively for that date. My suspicions origin with a growing certainty of a structural bug with freighters. For instance, in the Solo Blaster-Thron movie 'Wave of mutilation' He is attacking a freighter. When he hits hull, the 130k HP /rockets/ downwards. The guy confesses to checking his logs afterwards in the video, and it turned out he perfectly wrecked for 7,100-8,000 damage for 15-20 consecutive hits. Perhaps you catch my drift now. Real men Structure tank.
Exelsior	Posted - 2006.04.04 17:07:00 - [40] Originally by: enjoi Not sure if anyone posted this yet, and I can't be arsed to read frankly. Nik, the loss could be petitionable. Have the guys in on the kill rake your combat logs excessively for that date. My suspicions origin with a growing certainty of a structural bug with freighters. For instance, in the Solo Blaster-Thron movie 'Wave of mutilation' He is attacking a freighter. When he hits hull, the 130k HP /rockets/ downwards. The guy confesses to checking his logs afterwards in the video, and it turned out he perfectly wrecked for 7,100-8,000 damage for 15-20 consecutive hits. Perhaps you catch my drift now. Woah, i'd wanna put that into my bio... ------------------------- Thou shalt be dispatched.
enjoi	Posted - 2006.04.04 17:41:00 - [41] Originally by: Exelsior Originally by: enjoi Not sure if anyone posted this yet, and I can't be arsed to read frankly. Nik, the loss could be petitionable. Have the guys in on the kill rake your combat logs excessively for that date. My suspicions origin with a growing certainty of a structural bug with freighters. For instance, in the Solo Blaster-Thron movie 'Wave of mutilation' He is attacking a freighter. When he hits hull, the 130k HP /rockets/ downwards. The guy confesses to checking his logs afterwards in the video, and it turned out he perfectly wrecked for 7,100-8,000 damage for 15-20 consecutive hits. Perhaps you catch my drift now. Woah, i'd wanna put that into my bio... lol, my 1400mm wrecking hit can beat your 1400mm wrecking hit! Real men Structure tank.
xenorx	Posted - 2006.04.04 18:28:00 - [42] Originally by: enjoi Not sure if anyone posted this yet, and I can't be arsed to read frankly. Nik, the loss could be petitionable. Have the guys in on the kill rake your combat logs excessively for that date. My suspicions origin with a growing certainty of a structural bug with freighters. For instance, in the Solo Blaster-Thron movie 'Wave of mutilation' He is attacking a freighter. When he hits hull, the 130k HP /rockets/ downwards. The guy confesses to checking his logs afterwards in the video, and it turned out he perfectly wrecked for 7,100-8,000 damage for 15-20 consecutive hits. Perhaps you catch my drift now. While I have no doubt you are correct about the bug. I still dont understand how the ship just blows up 10 minutes after all shooting has stopped. If it was the pilots skills holding it together it would have blown when he ejected. I have seen that happen before. Just as soon as the pod is out BOOM, not 10 minutes later. Strange case indeed. Oh I have a theory. It was Tombs alt flying the ship and he was not gonna let his stuff fall into your hands. So as soon as he got clear of the system he hit the nearest phone booth and put on his super hero Nerf Suit of Doom. He then swung the mighty nerf bat and WTFPWNED the ship from the extream range of the CCP headquarters.......j/k No one can hear you scream in space, so STFU and die already.
Inturist	Posted - 2006.04.04 20:18:00 - [43] Edited by: Inturist on 04/04/2006 20:18:10 Yo Nik , message from old friend ;) How i see u still having fun in Akila Nik , damn not very good ending of the story Say hello to Seth from me .

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