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Gun Kata
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Posted - 2003.09.14 12:32:00 -
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Mine is Cap Boosters. For me these are a waste of space.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.14 13:04:00 -
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Nothing can compete with energy vampires and ECM bursts.
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StealthNet
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Posted - 2003.09.14 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: StealthNet on 14/09/2003 13:06:51
Well we could do a list or something because there are lots of useless modules.
Cap boosters are somewhat funny: great idea, useless impl. They should get a bigger capacity (at least double). BTW why they use so much pwrgrid ?
Invul Fields are somewhat useless if you want to use them as intended. If you want to use them as a "tanking" config along with other tacs, than that's ok  ... so next patch, bye bye 
Damage Controls... what ?
Flux thingies... oh well, get a somewhat shield boost, but loose lots of cap... something you want your enemy to use 
Projectiles... 
(they are trying to fix them, good  )
ECM Bursts...
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Femme Fatal
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Posted - 2003.09.14 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Femme Fatal on 14/09/2003 16:02:18
Nosferatu hands down the most worthless item ingame
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Macumba
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Posted - 2003.09.14 13:14:00 -
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Definitely energy vampires.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2003.09.14 13:20:00 -
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What is it that you dislike about the nosferatus/vampire drain? The low range?
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.14 13:21:00 -
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What is it that you dislike about the nosferatus/vampire drain? The low range?
They don't even drain 1/15 of what I recharge.
13 energy @ 45 secs, or what the stat is... Bring 45 and you might stop my cap recharge rate.
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Macumba
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Posted - 2003.09.14 13:21:00 -
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Crap range and crap cycle time.
The cycle time is longer than most fights.
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Mjr Tom
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Posted - 2003.09.14 13:21:00 -
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Energy vampires, shield flux coils, and until I find out what they actually do, damage control thingies.
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.14 13:31:00 -
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Yup, energy vampires are a waste of time, only possible use I can see for one is on a frigate to boost your cap using a high slot - won't do anything significant to the enemy though. Energy neutralisers work reasonably well if you have enough of them, but even they could do with a bit of a boost and energy vampires need a big boost to be useful.
Those things that protect the hit points of modules are pretty pointless too.
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Shani
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Posted - 2003.09.14 13:31:00 -
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damage control and ship scanners for the pathetic range
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Saladin
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Posted - 2003.09.14 13:34:00 -
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damage control mods are THE most useless item in game. They don't even recycle for a decent amount of minerals.
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Moph
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Posted - 2003.09.14 14:08:00 -
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ship scanners (****ty range), damage control units (wtf is this for?, not used), energy drain modules (total crap), survey scanner (crap use, crap range),
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.09.14 14:17:00 -
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Energy Vampires and Survey Scanners. With the horrible 5K range of the survey scanner, by the time you can scan it you see it. What good is it. The skill Survey adds speed, not range. What good is that? Who really cares how fast they can scan in a 5K range?
Survey scnaners need to start at 10K and the Survey skill needs to add +5K per level for the Survey scanner to be any use at all.
IMHO, of course.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2003.09.14 14:21:00 -
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Oh forgot to add one thing. Some people said that ECM bursts are useless. They have two uses:
1) Anti drone defense: The range and power of the ECM burst is enough to jam most drones
2) You get a little Megacyte when you refine them
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.14 14:35:00 -
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What is it that you dislike about the nosferatus/vampire drain? The low range?
They don't even drain 1/15 of what I recharge.
13 energy @ 45 secs, or what the stat is... Bring 45 and you might stop my cap recharge rate.
Yup, pretty obvious. With a range of 1 km and draining 13 cap over 45 seconds they don't help much when the enemy has more than 5000 cap...
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.14 14:36:00 -
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Damage Control Units improve the HP of all equipped modules, right?
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.14 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 14/09/2003 14:40:00
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Oh forgot to add one thing. Some people said that ECM bursts are useless. They have two uses:
1) Anti drone defense: The range and power of the ECM burst is enough to jam most drones
2) You get a little Megacyte when you refine them
How the **** are ECM bursts gonna help you against drones? The burst has a 30 second cycle and the drones has 2 seconds locking time...
Agreed on the 2) though
*edit* Yea, the damage control actually can compete with vampires and bursts for this award.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.14 14:43:00 -
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Does anyone use those Reinforced Plates (50mm - 400mm)?
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2003.09.14 14:49:00 -
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I use a 400mm armor boost
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Gun Kata
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Posted - 2003.09.14 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Gun Kata on 14/09/2003 14:54:51
I recycle 400mm armour and below.
Anyone seen any bigger armour?
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Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.09.14 14:57:00 -
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Survey scanners tell you how dense the rock is. That's about it for usefulness. I['d much rather take my chances, and fit something else in that valuable med-slot.
Energy vampires/drain/unstable energy modules/nosferatu/etc.. Now there's an excercise in worthlessness.. I agree with yall totally!!
Ya gotta get right up next to the target pretty much, and the energy drained/transferred is pathetic.
A small boost in range and energy tranferred/drained would make them more useful.
Right now, Nosferatu is just a small source of megacyte for me. :)
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Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.09.14 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: Vacuole on 14/09/2003 15:02:29
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How the **** are ECM bursts gonna help you against drones? The burst has a 30 second cycle and the drones has 2 seconds locking time...
When the drones are disrupted, they immediately return to sender, until told to attack again.
So, the drone user has to manually tell them to attack each time the burst is used, distracting them from other aspects of the battle.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.14 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: Vacuole on 14/09/2003 15:02:29
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How the **** are ECM bursts gonna help you against drones? The burst has a 30 second cycle and the drones has 2 seconds locking time...
When the drones are disrupted, they immediately return to sender, until told to attack again.
So, the drone user has to manually tell them to attack each time the burst is used, distracting them from other aspects of the battle.
True. But it's not very effective...
And after all, drones are mainly used for 2 reasons; lag and missile defence.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.14 15:16:00 -
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Drones for missile defense?
How does that work?
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2003.09.14 15:18:00 -
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I disagree about survey scanners... knowing how much ore is in the asteroid makes a huge difference instead of mining to find out it only has 50 units of whatever in it, then finding the whole field's like that.
Agreed about the vamp mods, those are utterly useless. Cool effect though, just everything else about it sucks.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.14 15:19:00 -
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Drones for missile defense?
How does that work?
Well, try to lauch missiles with drones around you... And watch your missiles explode on the drones and cause splash damage on your own ship...
Even if you burst the drones so they return to their owner, they will still be between you, so your missiles will hit his drones without reaching your enemy..
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.14 15:20:00 -
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Oh, I thought you meant using your own drones to attack a missile.
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.09.14 15:23:00 -
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The fact is that if you need the ore you will mine the roid if it's 20 or 200. Extending the range on the scanner would allow you to hunt for specific ores in a densly packed belt.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.14 15:29:00 -
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Mining lasers.
Haven't used one for about a month.
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Teris Kender
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Posted - 2003.09.14 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Teris Kender on 14/09/2003 15:50:23
How do you use ECM Bursts against drones?
We've tried it but it didn't disrupt their lock. We thought it was because you have to disrupt the lock of the ship controlling the drones?
Can you elaborate on this?
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Saladin
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Posted - 2003.09.14 15:51:00 -
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There was someone who had an interesting suggestion (can't find the thread now). He suggested that npc pirates stop dropping useless mods and simply increase the bounty on them to offset the money people were making by recycling junk.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2003.09.14 16:02:00 -
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Energy Vampires and Survey Scanners. With the horrible 5K range of the survey scanner, by the time you can scan it you see it. What good is it. The skill Survey adds speed, not range. What good is that? Who really cares how fast they can scan in a 5K range?
Survey scnaners need to start at 10K and the Survey skill needs to add +5K per level for the Survey scanner to be any use at all.
IMHO, of course.
Well, I agree that the survey skills should add range not speed, and the range should be longer. But I do find them useful anyway to see how much ore there is in a roid so I don't have to switch targets all the time. Just my opinion though.
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Does anyone use those Reinforced Plates (50mm - 400mm)?
I did use them before, not at the moment though. But I use the energized platings that inreases armour resistance. They were implemented same time as the 50mm - 400mm armour.
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Bashier Tarr
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Posted - 2003.09.14 16:11:00 -
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Most useless modules:
Bronze medal:
Shield transmission devices: Range way too short, needs to be cut in half (half the effect, half the cap drain, half the activation cycle).
Silver medal:
Energy neutralisers: Not too efficient, drain a lot of cap. This makes it only useful for ships that don't use cap in normal operation (ie, heavy projectile or missile oriented ships). Whoever, such ships usually will try to strike at a range of about 20 km, and the energy neutralisers only reach at 12 km.
Gold medal:
Energy Vampires (Nosferatu, Ghoul, etc): Way too little drain, activation cycle way too long. range way too pathetic.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2003.09.14 16:13:00 -
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The survey scanner was a really neat item to use in the first few weeks of the game. For those who don't know, moving the cursor over the asteroid wouldn't tell you what type of ore it had. People would use these scanners so they could search for specific asteroids in a 5km radius. If you didn't have a scanner back then, then you needed to either know what the roid looked like, or right click on it and say "show info". When this changed and the information showed up on the cursor, the survey scanner became useless
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Erty
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Posted - 2003.09.14 16:22:00 -
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Energy Vampires and Survey Scanners. With the horrible 5K range of the survey scanner, by the time you can scan it you see it. What good is it. The skill Survey adds speed, not range. What good is that? Who really cares how fast they can scan in a 5K range?
Survey scnaners need to start at 10K and the Survey skill needs to add +5K per level for the Survey scanner to be any use at all.
IMHO, of course.
Survey scanners aren't useless - they own.
I mean you almost need them nowadays with the baby respawn roid "problem", you have to check the asteroids before you mine them to see if it's worth to do it.
Especially when you mine bistot.
What do you mean with "by the time you can scan it you see it"?
It's impossible to see how many ore units an asteroid contains without a survey scanner.
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Liscia Thierese
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Posted - 2003.09.14 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: Femme Fatal on 14/09/2003 16:02:18
Nosferatu hands down the most worthless item ingame
Unless you recycle them in quantities of 4 :P
Yes, I cannot imagine why on earth anyone would want to equip any Energy Vampire on a Hi-Slot. 10 cap over 40 seconds?
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.14 16:57:00 -
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Cap boosters, what's the deal with these? Instead install a bicycle, hook it up and get more juice peddling your way to freedom.
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Jon Ogden
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Posted - 2003.09.14 16:59:00 -
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Yeah, energy vampires are useless. The fight is long over after 2-3 meaningless cycles.
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2003.09.14 17:03:00 -
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Definately energy vampires.
Increase the range to 5km, the drain to 20 (leave the reward at 10), and reduce the reuse timer to 20 on the Nosferatu I and balance the other items around that.
They will still be useless on thier own, but it would give room for dedicated vampire ships in a fleet.
Maybe giving the energy emissions systems skill some kind of bonus that actually improves thier effectiveness too, I don't know.
A lot of modules are useless because of thier abysmal ranges. Even in a frigate, it's hard to keep within 1km (sometimes less) of a target for any length of time unless both targets are motionless.
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Wretch's Toy
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Posted - 2003.09.14 17:34:00 -
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Energy vampires - horrible range and poor return for using up a high slot.
They do recycle pretty good in numbers.
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.14 17:42:00 -
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"Flux thingies... oh well, get a somewhat shield boost, but loose lots of cap... something you want your enemy to use "
They can be used effectively on a tempest to some degree or raven.
The Wretch
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Tri HD
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Posted - 2003.09.14 17:50:00 -
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Well, they aren't really modules, but i really dislike mines, you have to create a really really huge field in order to blow up just a frig. Nice explotions tho, they are a quite good diversion I found out ;)
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Lola
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Posted - 2003.09.14 17:56:00 -
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Basic Damage Control - They grant more HP to your modules but modules never go offline or get destoyed anyway.
Any type of transfer array is worthless because of the range.
I disagree that Nosferatu are worthless because they recycle for Megacyte. The energy vampire catagory is pretty worthless though.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.14 18:25:00 -
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Post-patch: Any CPU Enhancer.
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.09.14 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ana Khouri on 14/09/2003 19:08:49
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What is it that you dislike about the nosferatus/vampire drain? The low range?
No offence, Wrangler, but this posting get's you my personal "clueless person of the week" award 
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And on the most useless item award:
1.) Damage control - AFAIK noted damage has -zero- effect on modules, they cannot be destroyed nor do they work with less effeciency when damaged
2.) Energy vamps - Perhaps - *perhaps* - useful if you wage war with lvl1-lvl2 frigates. Perhaps useful for anything bigger with 10 times the range and 25-50 times the cap stolen.
3.) structure hull mods - less speed and a little more structure (which perhaps gives you 5 seconds more in a battle) - anyone wasting low slots with that crap?
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.14 19:13:00 -
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3.) structure hull mods - less speed and a little more structure (which perhaps gives you 5 seconds more in a battle) - anyone wasting low slots with that crap?
I'm not so sure they're crap... I don't know what the exact stat is, but I've got a few modules with +10% to struct.
With the current stacking...
4800*1.2 = 5760 (Megathron hull HP + skill)
1.331*5760 = 7666,56 hp
A total of almost 2000 HP extra for using up three lowslots.
Come on, they cannot even COMPETE with energy vampires.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.14 19:15:00 -
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I never used to touch any of those Local Hull Conversions but, since we're more likely to have low slots free after the patch, that 14% structure bonus could be useful.
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Lardarz B'stard
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Posted - 2003.09.14 21:00:00 -
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Marked Modified SS Internal Stabilisers.
Ok so they make you more 'agile'
Who gives a toss?
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.14 21:02:00 -
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The ladies favor a dancer.
Then again they also favor live men...
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Tristan
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Posted - 2003.09.14 23:49:00 -
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Mines definately need some love
they do crap damage for a start.
also when you drop them your ship stops moving.. very annoying if you try to orbit something to cover it in mines!
Also theres only two prints on the market... broke methinks. there should be the prints for cobra, python, anaconda.. i forget the others.
Anyway.. like missiles, thermal, kinetic, explosive.. etc etc.
One other thing thats up with them, the icons for them all look the same, when the red dot in the center should be a different color, like for missiles.
Oh.. and target one sometime.. the icon that shows in the target lock ring looks like a rocket for some reason :/
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Temerlyn
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Posted - 2003.09.15 05:53:00 -
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What is realy useless imo is the fact that there are like 5 different version of power diags, basic power diags, -10% cap/shield +10%shield/cap boosters,
Classic example.
Type e Power core.
Basic Cap.
Same as each other one uses 1tf, other uses 2
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Shauna
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Posted - 2003.09.15 06:41:00 -
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hmm...
energy vampires are definitely a waste, as are the cap drain thingies because it can only break even. Short range, too high cycle time, reward not worth giving up a high slot for.
This thread makes me wonder though...
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.15 07:09:00 -
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Most useless modules, even beyond the energy vampire, in my opinion is:
Explosion/Heat/Kinetic/Magnetic Amplifiers.
You know em. They're those low slot shield hardeners that use more CPU for 1/7th the resistance (on basics)than a normal shield hardener you can get off a 2k pirate. Even after the patch and normal shield hardeners get nerfed, who's going to give up a low slot for 10% resistance on shields?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2003.09.15 07:43:00 -
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Energy vampires ...........
Has the same range and sucking power as my grandma !!!!!
Would be nice to increase it to the same as the Nosfa ..12K - 14k and sort out the lame 45 secs and maybe we would see some dedicated "energy attacking" ..... would kind off fun
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.09.15 09:02:00 -
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My iteron 2 - its slow, its slow, its slow.
Sorry, I know its now a module, but its the most useless thing i own. But i still use it.
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.15 10:26:00 -
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It's impossible to see how many ore units an asteroid contains without a survey scanner.
No, but you can make a very good estimate based on the radius which you can get from using show info. Whilst not totally useless, they do come very close to being so.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.15 10:35:00 -
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Marked Modified SS Internal Stabilisers.
Ok so they make you more 'agile'
Who gives a toss?
I suppose you didn't try 3 -0.35 + 1 -0.25 agility mods yet? (Note, they're going to be "fixed" soon)
A battleship could go from 0 to top speed in 1-2 secs, same thing with 0-2000 with a MWD equipped. They can orbit frigates, etc...
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Xamand
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Posted - 2003.09.15 16:17:00 -
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as Jarjar said, the agility bonuses on the hull converters can make a massive difference on a Battleship. You can actually turn around within a solarsystem for a start :)
Acceleration and deceleration are massively improved, no more needing to order your ship to stop 10km out from where you want to be....the only other alternative being the tried and tested ramming method
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Tristan
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Posted - 2003.09.15 16:34:00 -
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whoa there temerlyn, theres a few kinds of Type E power core, all same name, some different icons. i think theres about 4 (plus variants.. eg on that is similar to another but say.. gives %5 of something) in total. same for Type D power core. some SUCK, some are very damn usefull!
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Ezra
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Posted - 2003.09.15 18:41:00 -
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Obviously Nosferatus are near the top of the list.
The current stats on drain MIGHT make sense for an EW ship if the range were vastly improved. (20-30k).
I would like to see the following for Nosferatus:
Two types: Short range (5-10k) with high drain, and long range (20-30k) with low drain. (Same idea as the two different warp jammer types - One has a strong jam and low range, the other has half the jamming strength and much longer range.)
In addition to that, have small/medium/large varieties. The current Nosferatus will make a difference on a frigate (<2.5 cap/second), but will be pointless on a cruiser. So there should be a medium Nosferatu with higher power/CPU reqs (albeit less than most medium guns) and double the drain rate.
Nosferatus used to be 10 cap every 40 seconds from what I remember, now that's been bumped up to 45. I think 2 cap every 8 seconds or 5 every 20 for the "small" variant would be better. For the "medium" variant, same drain in half the time.
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Spokes
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Posted - 2003.09.15 19:00:00 -
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Lots of useless mods.
- Damage control units - pointless.
- ALL high slot electronic warfare items(especially the vampires). I wanted to be more of an EW guy, as my gunnery skills suck, but after rigorous testing on corp mates, I am forced to use guns, as all the high slot EW is completely useless, I cant even wound a ship before i am blown up.
- Roid scanners - I have a secret way to "judge" ores, some may know this, but it works from any range, as long as you can see it, no scanner needed. The scanner gets the exact number, but I am usually within a couple hundred, so who cares. They should work at around 30km to be effective, the point is they should save you from having to get within mining range, not closer.
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Technolisa
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Posted - 2003.09.15 19:44:00 -
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Civilian Gatling Cannon & Basic Miner 
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.15 19:51:00 -
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Quote:
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- ALL high slot electronic warfare items(especially the vampires).
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There are energy neutralizers that will suck an Amarr battleship dry of cap in a very short amount oftime. No cap, no ammo for lasers. Also they're the best way to tame a wild Scorpion.
Toss one on a Minmatar ship with projectile weapons. So not "ALL" are useless.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.09.15 19:53:00 -
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Energy Vampires - too short a range, too small a draine, too long a recyle time.
Ship scanners: range way to short to ever be used.
Roid scanners: range way too short, again. In the time it took you to get within 5 km of all the roids you could have manually checked them out.
Medium slot shield recharge rate boosters. Shields recharge far too slow anyway.
Low slot shield power relays. Great item. You can reduce cap recharge so you can increase shield recharge rate. Nevermind it is thousands of times more efficient to reduce shield recharge rate and just use a shield booster.
For that matter flux anything is pretty bad :D You can usually find a better item in the power relay stuff.
Those passive medium slot shield resist boosters. Why use those when you could use a tactical shield and get way more benefit?
Damage Control Systems. Doesn't matter how damaged your stuff gets right now, seemingly.
Cap boosters: Take up way, way, too much space to be practical.
Medium Shield Extenders. Takes too much powergrid for too small a return. No contest over whether you should run a tac shield, or a shield extender.
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McWatt
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Posted - 2003.09.15 20:28:00 -
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my vote goes to the new to arrive mobile refineries, as they are presented on chaos at the moment. (check patch-channel)
and i just realized how much worthless rare stuff i had recyled. could turn out to have been a big fault if they start changing things!?! 
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Karash Amerius
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Posted - 2003.09.15 21:15:00 -
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Does anyone use those Reinforced Plates (50mm - 400mm)?
A 'Geddon with 6700 armor is nothing to sneeze at.
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2003.09.15 21:27:00 -
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Iteron mk IV,
its more or less worse than mk III,
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Tristan
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Posted - 2003.09.15 21:43:00 -
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GM "illegal" corpses.
not like they are tech V corpses that can blow up a ship in one hit if you throw them at someone.
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Fang
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Posted - 2003.09.16 03:16:00 -
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Basic Inertial Stabilsers --- They do bugger all and recyling them nets you an entire unit of Iso !
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Ezra
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Posted - 2003.09.16 03:26:00 -
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Medium slot shield recharge rate boosters. Shields recharge far too slow anyway.
Low slot shield power relays. Great item. You can reduce cap recharge so you can increase shield recharge rate. Nevermind it is thousands of times more efficient to reduce shield recharge rate and just use a shield booster.
Those passive medium slot shield resist boosters. Why use those when you could use a tactical shield and get way more benefit?
Essentially, since shield recharge rate is inherently so low compared to cap recharge + shield booster, ANYTHING that affects shield capacity or recharge rate is useless.
As to passive shield resist modules - They have an extremely valuable use, although it doesn't involve being fitted to a ship. :) Hint: 40 m3 of minerals used to produce a 5 m3 item.
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