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Dog Food
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Posted - 2006.04.03 20:28:00 -
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In my opinion, EvEs PVP is too much fun not to have a dueling system. Things like 1v1 challenges, 4 V 4, Corp wars. Whatever.
I would like it soooooooooo much :)
Yup this thread dont give much insight to why to be honest, so to justify why I would like one in a sentence;
Sick of being outnumbered.
I mean, something like a 'Tournament' system in all regions, everyone can gather around and duel.
Maybe have 'To structure' options etc.
Am I asking too much? :)
Would make a very nice addition to the game though imo.
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Montero
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Posted - 2006.04.03 20:29:00 -
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lol.
Keep profanity & moderation discussion out of your sig, please. --Jorauk
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Dog Food
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Posted - 2006.04.03 20:30:00 -
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 Originally by: Montero
lol.
Yup, it sounds stupid and isnt the style of the game. I still want one. 
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Tekka
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Posted - 2006.04.03 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dog Food
Originally by: Montero
lol.
Yup, it sounds stupid and isnt the style of the game. I still want one.
I want a gold plated titan 
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Tekka
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Posted - 2006.04.03 20:31:00 -
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Haha.
no
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Rayxor
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Posted - 2006.04.03 20:33:00 -
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what do you mean "dueling system"?
theres already open pvp pretty much.
are you suggesting PvP without consequences where people can have a friendly duel, ie. carebear pvp?
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MuShRoOm ChAmPiOn
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Posted - 2006.04.03 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tekka
Originally by: Dog Food
Originally by: Montero
lol.
Yup, it sounds stupid and isnt the style of the game. I still want one.
I want a gold plated titan
I wub opinions...and erm...your idea...erm...ever heard of world of warcraft...it sucks but closer to what you want
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Dog Food
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Posted - 2006.04.03 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Rayxor
what do you mean "dueling system"?
theres already open pvp pretty much.
are you suggesting PvP without consequences where people can have a friendly duel, ie. carebear pvp?
I dont think PVP is open to be honest, theres only 3 options in eve in order to PvP openly;
Become a pirate
Join an alliance corp (boring fleet battles tbh)
Declare empire wars
I mean you can manipulate the can rule a little...but pretty much I just want to be able to log onto eve, and PVP, which atm, pirating is the only option of that, or wait an hour to finally track down a -10 pirate then realise hes not the only one and get ganked.
TBH I'd need someone who gets my side of the argument to agree with me.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.03 20:45:00 -
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you can organise 1v1s if you want them...
and the chance of being betrayed is part of the game
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris
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Eternal Fury
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Posted - 2006.04.03 20:48:00 -
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well. we COULD justify some sort of "Arena" in space.
have one of the pirate groups take over a system, and defend it heavily, and have some sort of "arena" where people can fight it out for a fee. The RP reason would be it's a fight club, with heavy underworld betting.
Problem is, you would find some people who'd find some way to greif it. unless they instanced the matches, but I've not seen any instanceing in eve so far, so i doubt that'd happen.
would be a cool idea. Have the "Instance" be a system that is locked to everyone but the fighters, and have them each enter at seperate gates in the "fight" system. Then they have to find each other, and whoop each other.
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Tasuric Orka
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Posted - 2006.04.03 20:53:00 -
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I had a similar idea.. somewhat.
My idea was to create an arena in low security space for those willing. So if you want to fight someone, you can go there and do so without having to worry about a 20BS fleet jumping in to wtfpwn you. This way forum disputes about what pilot is better would be quickly settled, no *****ing about lag, logging and blobbing after losing.
But this idea is pretty good too, allow people to duel in high sec. This way people can fight others of similar skill, instead of venturing into low-sec in a merlin hoping for a good fight, only to stumble on a mega or uber T2 fitted HAC of pwnage behind every rock and gate.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.03 20:53:00 -
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You can use can flagging to make a dueling system... I've done it many times...
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Nev Clavain
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Posted - 2006.04.03 21:57:00 -
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I think the idea is feasible. If you deliver an arena for duelling pvp through npc content it could work without instanceing.
If you have some kind of npc tournament that people could enter, then fights could be held in high sec, with concord granting amnesty only on the two designated duellers. That way there is no instancing, but griefers would face concord wrath where duellers wouldnt.
This kind of content could be delivered through a system similar to how missions are run, with some kind of 'fightmaster agent' (for want of a better description). You can lay challenges to people through an agent, and if they accept both parties will be given the location of a deadspace gate (although maybe you can use mwd in this deadspace?) which takes you (and whoever you want to come with you) to the deadspace arena. Since located in high sec, only the two fighters can attack eachother without reprisal, although suicide traps are still possible if people fall into them.
I agree that as the gaps between top skillers/pvpers and younger characters grows, there needs to be a middle ground for pvp where people can build combat skills. At the moment, it seems to me you either hide in high sec, or you open yourself to being attacked by the strongest people out there. A dueeling system could be a great stopgap, as long as it doesnt detract from corp wars, and the top ends of pvp that distinguish the game from others.
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Tekka
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Posted - 2006.04.03 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: Tekka on 03/04/2006 22:08:44
Originally by: MuShRoOm ChAmPiOn
Originally by: Tekka
Originally by: Dog Food
Originally by: Montero
lol.
Yup, it sounds stupid and isnt the style of the game. I still want one.
I want a gold plated titan
I wub opinions...and erm...your idea...erm...ever heard of world of warcraft...it sucks but closer to what you want
I do play world of warcraft and? I also dont think it sucks I find it pretty fun, kinda funny since anyone that knew me deicently before I started knew that I HATED fantasy MMO's but after playing I guess I am more open to them But I dont have a 60 yet and do see myself getting more a bit after I get one
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.04.03 22:16:00 -
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you know, just because something works in a fantasy game doesnt mean you have to ressurect the dumb idea here.
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2006.04.03 22:31:00 -
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They have this.
Its called 0.0 space............
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Lisento Slaven
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Posted - 2006.04.03 23:02:00 -
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My corp currently has "Arena" fights to practice blowing the crap out of each other. It's nice how corp mates can blow up each others ships without Concord interference =P
For example we had a 3 vs 3, restricted to frigates. Each team was required to have 1 warp disruptor (any variant) on at least 1 ship. Any other equipment allowed. No podding.
Went to a planet, invited some friends to watch, and then proceeded to blow each other up.
My team won =P
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AlienBreed
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Posted - 2006.04.03 23:37:00 -
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sounds like a great idea tbh, some sort of "sport" pvp with no podding
so long as you could gamble on it anyway
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Rawthorm
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Posted - 2006.04.03 23:44:00 -
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You want a dueling system? Get in your ship and go out alone, find someone else on his own, lock him and shoot...
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.04.03 23:48:00 -
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Dueling System's code name is SISI.
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AlienBreed
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Posted - 2006.04.03 23:49:00 -
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Quote:
You want a dueling system? Get in your ship and go out alone, find someone else on his own, lock him and shoot...
no i just want to gamble
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Dr Smacktalk
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Posted - 2006.04.04 01:46:00 -
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It exists now. Its called can swapping. eject two cans fly at each others cans and take 1 item.
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Hungry Eyes
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Posted - 2006.04.04 02:01:00 -
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i DONT understand why so many people are against this... yeah, you have open pvp, 0.0, <0.4 even... but they all result in devastating ship loss. i see nothing wrong in having arenas in which players could test their setups for "the real thing", or just mess around. this is so easy to implement, and i dont get all the hatin on this idea.
dont you realize that this "carebear pvp" would actually get noobs and others INTO pvp? which is what this game needs. currently pvp = blob wars, gate camping, corp wars, random 0.0 encounters - such battles require little skill (a somewhat redundant phrase in this game) because youre relying on preying on the weaker with a better ship, ganging up on someone, or camping. agreeing to a duel in this game? ud b stupid.
organized duels, arenas and such (i.e. dueling for ISK, etc) would be like an ongoing frig tournament, but with all different ship classes. furthermore, it would attract more players to the whole PVP experience in 0.0 imho... flame away.
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Valkazm
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Posted - 2006.04.04 02:04:00 -
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aye lass who is that i see why is not the black Knight in his megathron come to challenge me have ya ..
Well i shall not yield let the tournament BEGIN ..
OH THE HORROR ..
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Samirol
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Posted - 2006.04.04 05:52:00 -
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There is a LOT of small gang warfare going on, and you can find plenty of roaming wolfpacks (well, at least ISS does because of our buddies CDC and CC  ). Wolfpacks are a considerable part of the game, and sometimes overlooked.
The ISS Navy is recruiting
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Magic Trev
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Posted - 2006.04.04 08:12:00 -
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Tekka your alive!!!1ONE1!
and to the OP - No, the whole fun of eve is the PvP isnt seperated off from the rest of the game like so many others are 
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Rhakel
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Posted - 2006.04.04 08:33:00 -
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silly silly silly. this game doesnt need any kindergarten zones.
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2006.04.04 08:35:00 -
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duel's in eve? really? i only know how to gank... 
I haven't got a new sig yet :)
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Anatole Faucet
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Posted - 2006.04.04 08:36:00 -
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if ur looking for the "right-click->request duel" from WOW, it's called "right-click->invite to gang" you can always set up a duel with a mate or some1 you want to kill, aslong as you trsut each other.
My corp fought out a tournament last night, was dead fun, 3 rounds with refittings allowed after each.
no t2
only frigates
and no podding
dead simple
the reason why Eve players don't want a "duel system" is because the reason why they play is because they get a much higher adrenaline rush from not being safe at all times.
and the reason why WOW sucks is because all their PVP is instanced, back when there was only world pvp, i had alot more fun.
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LoBoToMisT
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Posted - 2006.04.04 08:47:00 -
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I thought when it comes in 1vs1 in EvE its all about who is equipped with the proper counter acts to reflect the other one's build ^^
But when you are talking about a fleet... :D :D :D
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.04 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Anatole Faucet
if ur looking for the "right-click->request duel" from WOW, it's called "right-click->invite to gang" you can always set up a duel with a mate or some1 you want to kill, aslong as you trsut each other.
You can't duel in empire, even in a gang... you have to use can flagging unless you're at war or in the same corp.
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Anatole Faucet
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Posted - 2006.04.04 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Anatole Faucet
if ur looking for the "right-click->request duel" from WOW, it's called "right-click->invite to gang" you can always set up a duel with a mate or some1 you want to kill, aslong as you trsut each other.
You can't duel in empire, even in a gang... you have to use can flagging unless you're at war or in the same corp.
oh, just me who is inexperienced then :D only duelled with corp mates
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2006.04.04 09:06:00 -
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Eve already has the ability to have all this. You got a sandbox, now use it.
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Tasuric Orka
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Posted - 2006.04.04 09:23:00 -
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0.0 is not a dueling arena, its just a free for all.
There are many people that want to pvp, but they dont want to be wtfpwned by a ganksquad that jumps on their *** the moment they engage a target.
Actually dueling in 0.0 would be like trying to 1on1 in the middle of a battlefield. and ontop of that, finding a good match is extremely hard. Especially when you are a noob, dont try to tell me a merlin Vs some T2 uber frigate is a good matchup.
Ccp should just do this, it takes nothing away from your precious 0.0.
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Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2006.04.04 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 04/04/2006 09:32:42
It appears nobody listens to my comments on how you can dual ANYONE, ANYWARE without sec loss or changing corps. I must have posted this about 3 or 4 times already :)
Do this.
Organise into 2 gangs.
1. Gang 1 drops 100 Bookmarks in a can
2. First member of gang 2 takes bookmark from can.
3. all members of gang 1 do a 1 shot on the first member of gang 2 so you all have aggro to all.
4. Repeat setps 2-3 with the rest of the gang members of gang 2.
This way, you can organise fleet battles or 1v1 duals anyware without secloss thanks to RMR can flagging. I have done many a dual, and many a fleet battle with the above method when I was in my Previous corp.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.04.04 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dog Foodbut pretty much I just want to be able to log onto eve, and PVP[/quote
To do this, venture out of empire you must
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.04 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: Dog Food
but pretty much I just want to be able to log onto eve, and PVP
To do this, venture out of empire you must
someone forgot a square bracket 
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris
yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing
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Melissy
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Posted - 2006.04.04 10:13:00 -
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The idea is sound if excuted well. It would encourage new(by) players into PVP, to get their feet wet so to speak. With more PVP skills new players will feel more confident, and perhaps even move into 0.0...
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Telemicus Thrace
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Posted - 2006.04.04 11:16:00 -
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Some sort of sport aside from the racing would be cool in Eve. We had a tournament between the alliances not long ago and it was a lot of fun putting some bets on and watching the vids.
Maybe an instanced system with x number of live viewers who pay to watch via camera drones. Add a betting system and plenty of fun. Full ship loss but no podding. Pre set match requirements (cruiser vs cruiser, 5 frigates vs BS, etc) and some form of ranking. New Eve profession Gladiator and Arena star.
Sure all this can be done to a degree but it's all too exploitable and betting is small scale. I reckon a pro-sport style arena in Eve would be cool.
I doubt it will ever detract from the combat PvP, after all territory still needs to be fought over. We are lacking a grand spectacle though.
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Rhakel
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Posted - 2006.04.04 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Some sort of sport aside from the racing would be cool in Eve. We had a tournament between the alliances not long ago and it was a lot of fun putting some bets on and watching the vids.
Maybe an instanced system with x number of live viewers who pay to watch via camera drones. Add a betting system and plenty of fun. Full ship loss but no podding. Pre set match requirements (cruiser vs cruiser, 5 frigates vs BS, etc) and some form of ranking. New Eve profession Gladiator and Arena star.
Sure all this can be done to a degree but it's all too exploitable and betting is small scale. I reckon a pro-sport style arena in Eve would be cool.
I doubt it will ever detract from the combat PvP, after all territory still needs to be fought over. We are lacking a grand spectacle though.
It gets better and better.... Arenas + live viewers who pay to watch via camera drones + instancing
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Valkazm
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Posted - 2006.04.04 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rhakel
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Some sort of sport aside from the racing would be cool in Eve. We had a tournament between the alliances not long ago and it was a lot of fun putting some bets on and watching the vids.
Maybe an instanced system with x number of live viewers who pay to watch via camera drones. Add a betting system and plenty of fun. Full ship loss but no podding. Pre set match requirements (cruiser vs cruiser, 5 frigates vs BS, etc) and some form of ranking. New Eve profession Gladiator and Arena star.
Sure all this can be done to a degree but it's all too exploitable and betting is small scale. I reckon a pro-sport style arena in Eve would be cool.
I doubt it will ever detract from the combat PvP, after all territory still needs to be fought over. We are lacking a grand spectacle though.
It gets better and better.... Arenas + live viewers who pay to watch via camera drones + instancing
oh oh /me pictures a small 3 seconds explosion on the concord board seeing a picture of of a face with a name Solarsystem bla bla Frigate champion ..
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Ackoogin
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Posted - 2006.04.04 12:15:00 -
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I am not sure what the resistance to this sort of thing is tbh. I agree that there should'nt be any 'carebear' pvp where you cannot lose your ships but what exactly is bad about an offical game mechanic that allows for tournaments/arena type affairs?
To the people who say "go to .0" and similar: I am in a PvP alliance and the majority of my PvP experience is either hunting n ganking targets in a small gang or huge blob standoff's (*yawn*). Nine times out of ten if our gang comes across a similar sized KOS gang they turn tail and run, making us spend alot of time playing cat and mouse. I am not whineing about this, its the way it is, however I would love to be able to just jump on EVE and get some PvP in without having to find/organise a hunting gang or run around trying to find a solo player I could have a decent fight with.
As I suspect many corps do, my corp occasionally runs frig 1v1 knockout tournaments with a prize for the winner and I cannot think of a good reason why having these run by agents/npc&player corps/etc would be a 'bad' thing. An example:
Caldari Navy Capsuleer T1 Frigate 1v1 Arena Agent (in space, in a suitable setting)
Contestants would 'sign-up' to the agent, once X no of contestants has been reached a fairly short betting period would begin whilst the contestants warp to the arena BM they have been given. Once this is over pairs of players are matched and fight to ship destruction (no podding, no warping out?) and the contest carries on until only the winner is left in his ship. The winner then takes a prize and bets are paid.
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Coconut Joe
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Posted - 2006.04.04 12:15:00 -
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Anything that allows me to duel with a roughly equal opponent, that didnt take a hour to find, has to be a good idea.
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Tripp Orsam
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Posted - 2006.04.04 12:18:00 -
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EVE Veterans might laugh at this idea but most people dont venture into 0.0 too many times because they think they suck at pvp and think they have no chance in hell vs the more skilled pilots that live in 0.0.
Practice vs corp mates is not good enough, theres a good chance that a player with low pvp experience will be in a corp with many other people that also have low pvp experience. A place to practice vs other oponents outside thier corp would generate courage and give a chance to pick up the survival basics needed. Would also help people see that they are not as bad as they think they are. The end result may be more 'carebears' venturing into 0.0
I think whats needed is a small area where its possible to lose ships in 'practice battles' or duels but pod kills are not allowed, also screw killboards, in this area there are no kill mails awarded, on the other hand this might pull some people away from 0.0 to spend time in these places and I know CCP wont want that at all, so it may never happen :)
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Telemicus Thrace
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Posted - 2006.04.04 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rhakel
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Some sort of sport aside from the racing would be cool in Eve. We had a tournament between the alliances not long ago and it was a lot of fun putting some bets on and watching the vids.
Maybe an instanced system with x number of live viewers who pay to watch via camera drones. Add a betting system and plenty of fun. Full ship loss but no podding. Pre set match requirements (cruiser vs cruiser, 5 frigates vs BS, etc) and some form of ranking. New Eve profession Gladiator and Arena star.
Sure all this can be done to a degree but it's all too exploitable and betting is small scale. I reckon a pro-sport style arena in Eve would be cool.
I doubt it will ever detract from the combat PvP, after all territory still needs to be fought over. We are lacking a grand spectacle though.
It gets better and better.... Arenas + live viewers who pay to watch via camera drones + instancing
The whole point of the arena is that only the arena fighters can interact with each other. Sorry, no blobs. I'm talking spectator sport not warfare. Instancing allows the load to be taken away from the host system and in this scenario has no negative effects on game play.
It's not that different in practice to the alliance tournament where the combatants were whisked off to a closed system by the GMs. That was a tournament BoB had no issue competing in at the time as I recall, in fact didn't BoB win it? So if you had no issue with that what is the big deal with this?
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Nev Clavain
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Posted - 2006.04.04 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Nev Clavain on 04/04/2006 12:30:14
I have to say this thread has generated some good posts on one side (that is the argument for duelling) and on the other side has generated nothing but retarded eve powergamer posts, calling people 'kiddies' for wanting a duelling system. To answer that point - people who call other people 'kiddies' online, are usually in their teens themselves, and play online games so much to escape from the horrific reality that is their life.
If you don't like duelling lets have some proper arguments against it, not just 'nothx WOW sux kthxbye'
No one is talking about turning eve in WOW. INstancing isnt even required for this. If you can't portray your point of view contructively you should just shut the hell up.
Forgive my generalisations, and my outburst, but there really are some numpties posting on this thread.
And people who say - just use can flagging - well if people are having to bend a game mechanic to achieve duelling, why not give them a duelling mechanic and add some fun into the bargain? People obviously want to fight in this way, so why would a new feature be such a bad thing? Argue your position.
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Tripp Orsam
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Posted - 2006.04.04 12:48:00 -
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Nev Clavain: agreed
I can't but help to think that all the 'lawl, cry more noob' posts are just an attempt at getting threads like this locked for unconstructiveness (omg is this a real word?). And by 'threads like this' I mean threads that have any new ideas or anything that is not related to gank-squad wtfpwnage or extreme killboard leetness.
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Zabeth
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Posted - 2006.04.04 14:01:00 -
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OK, first.. I have no idea why I'm replying to this... but having seen my share of unwanted PvP, here goes:
1 vs 1
Two referees are required, one referee will gang with combatant A, and one referee will gang with combatant B. The referees will simply insure both combatants are solo, and have no other members to aid them.
Combatant A drops a jet-can, combatant B drops a jet-can û when given the Start signal, both combatants loot the other combatants jet-can; the duel begins.
4 vs 4
Once again, we have two sides, so we have two referees; one referee for team A and one referee for team B. The referees insure that each team only has four members.
Before combat begins, each team member will drop 4 jet cans beside the position of the other team, with each can dropped in a row for easy identification. Both sides do this, so there are now 16 jet-cans on each side of the line.
The referees give the word, and you loot one each, of the other teams jet-cans, thus taking aggro from all four members of the opposing team. Once team aggro is set, the duel begins.
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Of course, there is no guarantee here, but at least its organized, and you can set-ups your matches and having betting and all sorts of PvP fun without too much risk.
Have fun :)
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Luc Daumier
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Posted - 2006.04.04 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dog Food
In my opinion, EvEs PVP is too much fun not to have a dueling system. Things like 1v1 challenges, 4 V 4, Corp wars. Whatever.
I would like it soooooooooo much :)
Yup this thread dont give much insight to why to be honest, so to justify why I would like one in a sentence;
Sick of being outnumbered.
I mean, something like a 'Tournament' system in all regions, everyone can gather around and duel.
Maybe have 'To structure' options etc.
Am I asking too much? :)
Would make a very nice addition to the game though imo.
Log on to Singularity and you can pvp all you want without actually losing anything.
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Valrandir
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Posted - 2006.04.04 16:06:00 -
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The dueling system are everywhere.
You can declare a war and fight your target everywhere.
Making a carebear area where we can fight with no death penality should never happens.
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Nev Clavain
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Posted - 2006.04.04 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Valrandir
The dueling system are everywhere.
You can declare a war and fight your target everywhere.
Making a carebear area where we can fight with no death penality should never happens.
For God's Sake man, who said anything about a carebear area for fighting with no death penalty? Duelling in no way has to become that. Duelling can be just as brutal as pvp anywhere in eve, it could be that you risk everything you take into the arena with you.
Also can you not see the fundamental difference between declaring war on another corp, and having a quick duel with a particular player? How is corp war 'a duel'? THINK!
The only way duelling can occur currently is through manipulation of the can flagging system. On that point here's my analogy:
Yes you can make toast using a cigarette lighter! I'd still rather use a toaster.
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BaliAgha
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Posted - 2006.04.04 16:51:00 -
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I like the idea and think it would prepare people for the real thing. It could also bring more people into the EvE community. Good/Bad or Easy/hard - Have no idea, just think its a possible good idea to implement.
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I'll see you on the Battlefield 'son' - ill be looking for your involed parties and getting some revenge - AKA Kickin A** and Takin Names
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Tinweasel
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Posted - 2006.04.04 17:12:00 -
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an arena in space? heh fleet battles in jita ftw!
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
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Posted - 2006.04.04 17:48:00 -
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All the game mechinics for this already exist. Now some enterprising young pod pilot must rise to the occasion and offer his services to organize the event.
Advertise, so the newbs come. Charge them a small fee. People can gamble and watch, its in high sec, and contestants use can flag to aggro each other. Winner wins a prize.
We dont need CCP to hold our hands. It can already exist, if you want it, go make it happen.
Originally by: Drayce
Between the learning skills and the tutorial, Eve is like a firewall against the attention deficit kids 
I like it this way
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Telemicus Thrace
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Posted - 2006.04.05 05:09:00 -
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Edited by: Telemicus Thrace on 05/04/2006 05:10:40
Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn
All the game mechinics for this already exist. Now some enterprising young pod pilot must rise to the occasion and offer his services to organize the event.
Advertise, so the newbs come. Charge them a small fee. People can gamble and watch, its in high sec, and contestants use can flag to aggro each other. Winner wins a prize.
We dont need CCP to hold our hands. It can already exist, if you want it, go make it happen.
Yeah, very true. However if it proves popular and you get 200 spectators the lag will kill it. Those opposed to such goings on can easily blob it out of existance. Betting will rely on high levels of trust which in Eve many are rightfully not too big on. Add in suicide ganks for chuckles and clowns getting gang mates in the crowd to use a passive targetter and ECM on their opponent and you can see the issues that need to be overcome to set this up without CCP building something.
I have some holiday time coming up and if the urge takes me I might have a go at organising a small tournament. Perhaps a series of 1v1 and a bonus round free for all. Say a 5mil buy in per pilot and the pot less 10% goes to the tournament winner. Betting on the side and if anybody from the Scope fancies running some FRAPS we can distribute vids.
It's a lot of work and I really don't need another iron in the fire at the moment but we'll see.
(edited because I can say crap but "have a ***** at" gets filtered - go figure)
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