Invention has been a weird one. I've found that producing T2 items is tough unless you have a good source of moon mats. So I looked into the decryptors. I thought the Esoteric Process sounded like something useful to cut down on material costs.

Anyway, so far I've run 5 consecutive failed inventions. I've never had that many in a row.

Is T2 just not possible unless you are in a null sec alliance with multiple POS generating moon mats? The prices on the market seem far too low to account for the costs of various inputs.

T1 is out, unless you want to mine all day.

I'm kind of taking a learn as you go approach to Industry. I've read a little bit from various sources on the internets, then I go try something.

Invention has been a weird one. I've found that producing T2 items is tough unless you have a good source of moon mats. So I looked into the decryptors. I thought the Esoteric Process sounded like something useful to cut down on material costs.

So I bought some as well as ran some copies with the max number of runs. From what I have put together from 100 or so different sources it appears that using a copy with the max number of runs can affect the number of runs the T2 BPC has (although that is probably incorrect).

Anyway, so far I've run 5 consecutive failed inventions. I've never had that many in a row.

Is T2 just not possible unless you are in a null sec alliance with multiple POS generating moon mats? The prices on the market seem far too low to account for the costs of various inputs.

T1 is out, unless you want to mine all day.

PI seems like the only profitable thing. I've heard of people making ISK hand over fist running industry solo. Perhaps I haven't found my niche yet, but I'm not seeing it.

Invention has been a weird one. I've found that producing T2 items is tough unless you have a good source of moon mats.

So I looked into the decryptors. I thought the Esoteric Process sounded like something useful to cut down on material costs.

Anyway, so far I've run 5 consecutive failed inventions. I've never had that many in a row.

T1 is out, unless you want to mine all day.

So I bought some as well as ran some copies with the max number of runs. From what I have put together from 100 or so different sources it appears that using a copy with the max number of runs can affect the number of runs the T2 BPC has (although that is probably incorrect).

Anyway, so far I've run 5 consecutive failed inventions. I've never had that many in a row.

Is T2 just not possible unless you are in a null sec alliance with multiple POS generating moon mats? The prices on the market seem far too low to account for the costs of various inputs.

Am I missing something here? By Decryptors do people mean the Data Interfaces?

Am I missing something here? By Decryptors do people mean the Data Interfaces?

Disabuse yourself of this notion ASAP. Anyone that does t1 production seriously & profitably uses far too many minerals than he or she could possibly mine. Even someone multiboxing a huge mining fleet will need to purchase some minerals from the market.

I wonder why this rtarded attitude still persists over 10 years that you should mine your minerals by yourself.
It completely doesnt matter how you get to your minerals, mined or purchased in jita, their value will be still the same.

Same for moon mins - whether you buy them in jita or you mine them yourself, they are just a cost position to be
accounted at market (Jita) price for whatever you do with it.

In case you really mine yourself, its ADDITIONAL GAIN from mining and shouldnt be taken into calculation
of manufactoring profits.

And don't use decryptors on anything other than ships. It's a waste.

I disagree with this. There are some items which at ME -6 have the same waste as at 0 ME so a 'Cryptic Augmentation' for example will lead to a 19 run, 'same waste' BPC as no decryptor and really enhance profits. These t2 items tend to be built using 1-4 of each component.

good source of construction materials!