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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2012.01.05 12:04:00 -
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CCP Konflikt wrote:I didn't say what this was earlier, but when SiSi starts up next, alliances will be able to join Faction Warfare. This will go out to TQ soonGäó.
There are more improvements on the table for Faction Warfare.
The fact you think this is likely to "improve" FW indicates you are completely delusional. I'm serious 
Anyone in Minnie/Amarr FW remember when Reikoku joined FW for a couple of weeks after the disbanding of BoB? To say it unbalanced things was the understatement of the year, and that was just one (large) null-sec corp, not an alliance.
Epic idea - lets have all the isk-rich bored null-sec players come fight the (relatively) isk-poor people of FW.
Totally unbelievable, it really is and I'm very glad I'm no longer involved in it. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.05 12:39:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:Well, a lot of ppl asked for this and it is a realatively easy fix. I always thought it was a terribad idea, but here is hoping for the best.
At first glance it looks like another FU to new players.
At second glance it looks like a FU to anyone who isn't rich enough to absorb upwards of 500mill in losses/month - and I'd say that'd be the very low-end of losses. Edit - I mean non-alliance FW players here and I base that on what I saw RKK do to all of the FW corps back when they were in temporarily.
Bugger all to the lads/lasses with the moon goo of course. Not that bad for many existing FW players. Likely to put lots of new players off.
Perhaps someone in CCP should actually try being in FW 100% of the time, with no other income before coming up with lunacy like this.
/me shrugs - I've given up on CCP ever coming out with anything coherent on FW anyway, and this just convinces me I was right to do so. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.05 15:15:00 -
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Arkady Sadik wrote:
I think the actual worry is that big 0.0 alliances will join FW for a "vacation from 0.0" for a few weeks to have some fun with the noobs.
Which is precisely what has happened before down in Hed (Amamake/Auga/etc for those that don't know)
Reikoku basically owned the area for two weeks, a couple of other corps from defunct alliances/sov holdings have done the same over the years.
Join FW, hotdrop the crap out of anything that moves for a couple of weeks and then off to the next null-sov alliance.
Now it appears someone has lost the plot enough to allow entire alliances to do the same 
It'd be quite amusing if it didn't indicate such a complete disconnection between devs and the game. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.05 15:39:00 -
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Oh and its worth pointing out that this "restriction" probably equates to a few bill of tags per corp (worst case) to bump standings. Wouldn't imagine it'd be too hard to have 0.5 to multiple factions either.
I suppose it will - temporarily at least - increase low-sec population, making it look like someone had a plan for low-sec. Or something like that  |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.05 16:10:00 -
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Cearain wrote:
Only alliances that do not hold sov should be able to join.
That doesn't go far enough. Not even close.
The reason is simple - lost your sov for the moment and looking for pastures new? No problem, park your alliance in Amamake for a couple of weeks and bounce back and forth between factions for the lulz. Once you got your new sov (blues) sorted then off you go.
Don't tell me it won't happen, its EXACTLY what is going to happen.
If this is going to happen and supercarriers/titans are still allowed in low-sec then it doesn't take a genius to figure out the likely outcome mmm?
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.05 17:31:00 -
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Hirana Yoshida wrote:But without some sort of automated mechanic to govern who can join, then we are back at the idea aired by some in RP community when the started war three years ago: That we have a GM screen applicants so that only the "serious" alliances are allowed entry. Somehow doubt that will fly with the bot-lords 
I did reply to this before but due to the "special" forums it got lost - someone amongst the webmonkeys at CCP needs to get a clue
Anyway its simple enough. If alliances can join then the weapons used must be available to all in FW.
By that I mean if you can use supercarriers or titans in low-sec then the means to build them (and all the benefits) must be available in low-sec. I wouldn't want to open that can of worms.
Alternatively you ban the use of supercarriers/titans in low-sec. Carrier fights are do-able for many in FW and in the overall scheme of things aren't too expensive. Supers/titans are a different ballgame.
Anything else and one side is bringing a knife to a gunfight. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.05 17:42:00 -
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Cearain wrote:I don't see fw as something for newbs that need protecting. I would like ccp to make fw into something that offers mechanics that bring about frequent quality small scale pvp. I would like it to be something that new players and veterans may enjoy.
Indeed and supers/titans have no place in that.
The issue with the whole "let alliances join" idea is basically isk. That's what wins wars in Eve, simple as.
Once you allow the isk imbalance to become "focused" - ie half a dozen nyx on the oss gate - then it looks very much like pay to win is the only option for newbs.
It would be interesting to find out who the last dev to actively fly PvP/Plex/mission in FW was. I don't mean for a couple of days either. I bet it was a hell of a long time ago. |
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