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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:30:00 -
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In recent threads there has been certain statements brought to light by senior members of Band Of Brothers which throw into light one of the biggest hypocritical senarios eve has seen.
I will hold my hands up and congradulate BoB on the take-over of EC- it was a well organised operation which went without too many hitches (note: fleet commander warping in frigs and hacs to a large POS).
I dislike arrogance and i dislike hypocrisy, i may be seeing things in a differant light to other people, it may not even be arrogance bob displays but to me the largest problem i have is this:-
BoB, you claim you want fights, you claim you want more fun in the game with enemies who will stand up to you and fight you back.
Im sure i have seen Dian say somewhere that you would love to get your asses handed to you just once for some fun. So please can you tell me why
a) you pick on T R U S T which is obviously an industrial alliance - Then complain that G and IRON arent fighting.
b) pick targets that you know will not fight you head on. SA for example will not fight BoB head on fleet v fleet and im pretty sure BoB allready knew this.
Additionally, why not choose better targets? Why not choose alliances who have friends that will back them up even if you attack them - Lotka Voltera for example (this is just an example) who have V and CHIMP at their sides allways, and im guessing even if BoB attacked them they would fight you.
Im deeply sorry if i have managed to offend anyone with this post, it was just meant to ask some questions of BoB members without inciting flames or whitty retorts.
Kind Regards
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ReViVal
According to Freud, thinking the world revolves around you is a regression
to childhood, when your world actually did revolve around you.-Wrangler |
Amthrianius
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:31:00 -
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Hi Aneu.
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Amthrianius
Hi Aneu.
Its getting old dread.
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ReViVal
According to Freud, thinking the world revolves around you is a regression
to childhood, when your world actually did revolve around you.-Wrangler |
General Hansen
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: sidthesexist
Originally by: Amthrianius
Hi Aneu.
Its getting old dread.
It never gets old.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:35:00 -
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Read the other 15 threads where the same question is asked?
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: ProphetGuru
Read the other 15 threads where the same question is asked?
The other threads dont answer any of the questions above, they are riddled with flames and smack.
Id appreciate a stand up post from a BoB member about it please.
Thanks
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ReViVal
According to Freud, thinking the world revolves around you is a regression
to childhood, when your world actually did revolve around you.-Wrangler |
Bazman
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:39:00 -
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BoB attacking us would force me to stop npcing, thus I doubt it would happen.
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: sidthesexist
I dislike arrogance and i dislike hypocrisy, i may be seeing things in a differant light to other people, it may not even be arrogance bob displays but to me the largest problem i have is this:-
Hello Aneu,
I don't think you are worthy of an answer, because in the past you have proven to be nothing but a troll. However this specific sentence strikes me as amusing and I would advice you to look into the mirror a little more often.
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WOTANKN > WOTAN-KN + BIZARRE= SIR MOLLE
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:42:00 -
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a) we have not complained about g/iron not fighting, it doesn't surprise us in any way - what we HAVE done it note that the fact they won't even try means that they can never win, and will cause us no problems whatsoever during this phase.
b) we fight when and who we want to, there aren't many, if any, groups in this game that won't fight us on equal terms - if you would like to point one out that would be great.
Hell, don't even point one out, just bring one to Delve, why is it we are always the one that have to travel?
Why did g/iron go attack f-e in d7-zac, instead of bringing it to Delve, if we're such a prime target, hmmmm?
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Perpello
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: Perpello on 05/04/2006 12:42:42
Hi Aneu, still keeping up with starting your usual daily amount of troll threads? I don't think you're worthy of an answer. 
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: Bazman
BoB attacking us would force me to stop npcing, thus I doubt it would happen.
Very true. It was, after all, an example :) but since there are no other alliances with a 'triad' form of allies i thought it was the best one 
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ReViVal
According to Freud, thinking the world revolves around you is a regression
to childhood, when your world actually did revolve around you.-Wrangler |
sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Bizarre
Originally by: sidthesexist
I dislike arrogance and i dislike hypocrisy, i may be seeing things in a differant light to other people, it may not even be arrogance bob displays but to me the largest problem i have is this:-
Hello Aneu,
I don't think you are worthy of an answer, because in the past you have proven to be nothing but a troll. However this specific sentence strikes me as amusing and I would advice you to look into the mirror a little more often.
As i said to dread, getting old now.
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ReViVal
According to Freud, thinking the world revolves around you is a regression
to childhood, when your world actually did revolve around you.-Wrangler |
Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:44:00 -
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Just wait for phase 4, whatever the hell phase 4 is.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: sidthesexist
Very true. It was, after all, an example :) but since there are no other alliances with a 'triad' form of allies i thought it was the best one
An alliance triad? You mean like G, Iron, and razor perhaps?
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Drilla
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: sidthesexist
Additionally, why not choose better targets? Why not choose alliances who have friends that will back them up even if you attack them - Lotka Voltera for example
And that remark has nothing to do with you being kicked from Lotka Volterra?
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |
Bazman
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:46:00 -
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Here's my guess at Phase 4: BoB simultaneously builds 4 titans in EC-, camping it 24/7 for the next 5 months :P
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Hi TomB! All out Do or Die Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. |
sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
a) we have not complained about g/iron not fighting, it doesn't surprise us in any way - what we HAVE done it note that the fact they won't even try means that they can never win, and will cause us no problems whatsoever during this phase.
b) we fight when and who we want to, there aren't many, if any, groups in this game that won't fight us on equal terms - if you would like to point one out that would be great.
Hell, don't even point one out, just bring one to Delve, why is it we are always the one that have to travel?
Why did g/iron go attack f-e in d7-zac, instead of bringing it to Delve, if we're such a prime target, hmmmm?
I honestly couldnt answer why G and IRON attacked FE - A Stupid move if you ask me.
Thank you for the reply, i do appreciate it. I understand BoB choose their targets very carefully and im sure you weigh the 'fun' factor vs the 'publicity' factor, and im also guessing the EC- is majorly for the 'publicity' factor? or am i wrong?
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ReViVal
According to Freud, thinking the world revolves around you is a regression
to childhood, when your world actually did revolve around you.-Wrangler |
sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: sidthesexist
Very true. It was, after all, an example :) but since there are no other alliances with a 'triad' form of allies i thought it was the best one
An alliance triad? You mean like G, Iron, and razor perhaps?
Very true, although RZR dont claim space which is why i forgot about them i guess...   
Drilla, talk to Nebba i said i was leaving long before chow said 'things arent working out'.
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ReViVal
According to Freud, thinking the world revolves around you is a regression
to childhood, when your world actually did revolve around you.-Wrangler |
sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bazman
Here's my guess at Phase 4: BoB simultaneously builds 4 titans in EC-, camping it 24/7 for the next 5 months :P
I reckon they will sacrifice all T R U S T babies to the allmighty BoB god that goes by the name of Britney Spears.
But anyway, back on topic! 
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ReViVal
According to Freud, thinking the world revolves around you is a regression
to childhood, when your world actually did revolve around you.-Wrangler |
Proconsul Para
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:54:00 -
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sid, before fielding the questions, have you checked the date ?
Your question is so 2004/2005, but both SA/CA and GNW are over 
In the meantime, EVE has evolved beyond pure PvP and territorial control based on conquerable stations.
As for the answers to your questions, do you really expect the truth ?
There's stuff called the long view and you can't expect more then vague hints exposed to the public. So stop acting newborn, and get on with playing EVE. You'll find us on the space lanes.
Drachenlord > I'm sorry Para, who are you again?
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Proconsul Para
sid, before fielding the questions, have you checked the date ?
Your question is so 2004/2005, but both SA/CA and GNW are over
In the meantime, EVE has evolved beyond pure PvP and territorial control based on conquerable stations.
As for the answers to your questions, do you really expect the truth ?
There's stuff called the long view and you can't expect more then vague hints exposed to the public. So stop acting newborn, and get on with playing EVE. You'll find us on the space lanes.
Nice reply, i do totaly understand i wont get the full truth weather this was a publicity ploy or not, i dont expect to but what id like is just a discussion about my first post :)
Thanks
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ReViVal
According to Freud, thinking the world revolves around you is a regression
to childhood, when your world actually did revolve around you.-Wrangler |
TWD
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: http://www.omgrawr.net/quote/57
<+holyone> what's up with Aneu Angellus Stavros?
<&t20> yeah, it's the viagrachocolate egg
<+Stavros> nothing much
<+Stavros> hes just wrong alot :P
<&Hammerhead> isn't that the forum troll?
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: sidthesexist
In recent threads there has been certain statements brought to light by senior members of Band Of Brothers which throw into light one of the biggest hypocritical senarios eve has seen.
I will hold my hands up and congradulate BoB on the take-over of EC- it was a well organised operation which went without too many hitches (note: fleet commander warping in frigs and hacs to a large POS).
I dislike arrogance and i dislike hypocrisy, i may be seeing things in a differant light to other people, it may not even be arrogance bob displays but to me the largest problem i have is this:-
BoB, you claim you want fights, you claim you want more fun in the game with enemies who will stand up to you and fight you back.
Im sure i have seen Dian say somewhere that you would love to get your asses handed to you just once for some fun. So please can you tell me why
a) you pick on T R U S T which is obviously an industrial alliance - Then complain that G and IRON arent fighting.
b) pick targets that you know will not fight you head on. SA for example will not fight BoB head on fleet v fleet and im pretty sure BoB allready knew this.
Additionally, why not choose better targets? Why not choose alliances who have friends that will back them up even if you attack them - Lotka Voltera for example (this is just an example) who have V and CHIMP at their sides allways, and im guessing even if BoB attacked them they would fight you.
Im deeply sorry if i have managed to offend anyone with this post, it was just meant to ask some questions of BoB members without inciting flames or whitty retorts.
Kind Regards
They (BOB) are playing a geopolitical wargame with strategic movement, logistical planning, diplomatic manouvers and intelligence work. Whatever the footsoldiers and front line warriors say about wanting fun and great fights the leaders of BoB are intelligent highly skilled wargamers enjoying the challenge of playing world conquest at the highest level in the biggest single shard wargame in the world.
Whereas you on the other hand are asking for a bunch of pointless space jousts where both sides kiss and make up at the end and go onto other "fair" targets in an endless round of capture the flag maps.
Now maybe you are genuinely asking the question at the top of this thread in which case you are just being naive and not understanding the basic principles of the big political game of Eve.
Or maybe you are just framing the question as some kind of entry-level divide and conquer psyops aimed at the rank and file.
I don't know who you are so I can't tell. But I think this is the most complete answer to your question you are likely to get.
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Bazman
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:10:00 -
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Actually, just looks to me like he's planting the idea "attack lv" out there :P
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Hi TomB! All out Do or Die Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. |
Heikki
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: sidthesexist/Aneu
BoB, you claim you want fights, you claim you want more fun in the game with enemies who will stand up to you and fight you back.
Why not rather say BoB as entity wants to achieve something; and get fights along the way?
The point in their comments and actions seem to be, that they try to achieve the goals they set upon themself the best they can. It's not their duty to even the odds (what you seem to call for).
And should they one day really dominate the whole Eve (phase 5), I'm sure there would still be lot of fun and action (like the civil war at phase 11).
And in the end, the whole world doesn't yet revolve around BoB; there are still lot of local schemes and drama left for smaller entities.
-Lasse
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Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:16:00 -
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Canadian Coins ftw
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Edison Frisk
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Heikki
Originally by: sidthesexist/Aneu
BoB, you claim you want fights, you claim you want more fun in the game with enemies who will stand up to you and fight you back.
Why not rather say BoB as entity wants to achieve something; and get fights along the way?
The point in their comments and actions seem to be, that they try to achieve the goals they set upon themself the best they can. It's not their duty to even the odds (what you seem to call for).
And should they one day really dominate the whole Eve (phase 5), I'm sure there would still be lot of fun and action (like the civil war at phase 11).
And in the end, the whole world doesn't yet revolve around BoB; there are still lot of local schemes and drama left for smaller entities.
-Lasse
Good job on your solo gate camping heikki, pain in the arse you are, but job well done nonetheless 
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Miramax
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Bazman
Actually, just looks to me like he's planting the idea "attack lv" out there :P
seems to me the lv block is the last noteworthy block in eve anyways
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:27:00 -
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Everyone knows bob are egocentric hypocrits.
They'll flame this thread with their lies until it gets locked, same sht as usual.
I just fail to see why anyone's napped with them anymore.. they've already betrayed most of their friends and keep saying they're gonna conquer eve so that kinda means that their friends are next.
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Rohann
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa
Everyone knows bob are egocentric hypocrits.
They'll flame this thread with their lies until it gets locked, same sht as usual.
I just fail to see why anyone's napped with them anymore.. they've already betrayed most of their friends and keep saying they're gonna conquer eve so that kinda means that their friends are next.
You know nothing wcsboy
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