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Billy Hix
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:16:00 -
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Not sure if this is news or not.
Hilmar did an interview where he claimed 900k total active accounts including Dust. So Dust has around 400k active accounts according to Hilmar if we assume Eve is still around 500k as per the last news we had on accounts.
Quote:The entire GǣEVEGǥ Universe claims 900,000 players, spread out between the GǣEVE OnlineGǥ and GǥDust 514GǦ games.
http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/how-the-eve-online-tv-series-could-become-the-next-game-of-thrones-1201088301/ |
Karen Avioras
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:18:00 -
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Lots of targets for us to bombard  |
Collie Buddz
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:22:00 -
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Depends what they classify as "active" on a free game. I don't play Dust so I don't know, is there any beneficial reason to have more than one account like in Eve? |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:22:00 -
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active dust accounts don't require a subscription.
An active dust account is anyone who as played dust.
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Never forget. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1071
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:24:00 -
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I wonder how they define an "active" dust account.
Looking at eve offline for the last 24 hrs, eve peaks at just over 45k concurrent users, dust peaks at just under 4k concurrent users.
Is an active account one that tried the "free" game on the play station network for an hour two months ago and then didn't bother logging on since? The news (400k dust bunnies, 500k eve players) is of course great if true, but it kinda doesn't jive with known server graphs. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:28:00 -
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Why are we assuming the numbers are in base 10?
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Qalix
Long Jump.
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:32:00 -
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The article says 900k but that isn't a quote from Hilmar. |
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
1058
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:35:00 -
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4-500k accounts for a free to play title is nothing. On F2P they reason in term of milions.
Also don't say if counting the chinese server too. And is fun doesn't say how many of these 900 are from EVE and how many from dust.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy
The ROC
2322
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:36:00 -
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Does anyone else think about it in Bill Clinton's voice?
"Well, that depends on what your definition of 'active' is..."
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
603
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:49:00 -
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Dust has like 4,000 concurrent players per day, it's really quite low: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
Eve has 40k concurrent players and 500k subs (active players), so I'd wager dust really has 50k or so active players in reality. |
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Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
Insurance Fraud.
648
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:51:00 -
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Batelle wrote:active dust accounts don't require a subscription.
An active dust account is anyone who as played dust.
http://dustboard.com/global
Alas, how 2 internet? How 2 internet?
There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |
Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
49
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Posted - 2014.02.06 23:32:00 -
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oh so how does dust finaly worked out? has it died yet? |
Billy Hix
Team JK
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Posted - 2014.02.06 23:34:00 -
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Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:oh so how does dust finaly worked out? has it died yet?
TBH it seems to have stabilized at 3k to 4k Concurrent players max in 24 hours.
So while its not getting worse it really isn't getting any better. |
Your Dad Naked
State War Academy
Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2014.02.06 23:36:00 -
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For some crazy reason, I read that as "******" at first. 
EDIT: Holy smokes, you can't say the name of Germany's WW2 dictator? again! |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
213
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Posted - 2014.02.06 23:39:00 -
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Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:has it died yet?
Together with EvE. They're both in the process.
WoD is going to be stillborn. |
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
218
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Posted - 2014.02.06 23:53:00 -
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Your Dad Naked wrote:For some crazy reason, I read that as "******" at first. EDIT: Holy smokes, you can't say the name of Germany's WW2 dictator? again!
Stalin!
Milosevic!
Not all mass murderers are blocked it seems. |
Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2014.02.07 00:35:00 -
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Collie Buddz wrote:Depends what they classify as "active" on a free game. I don't play Dust so I don't know, is there any beneficial reason to have more than one account like in Eve?
"Active" is whatever classificaton gives the marketing department the biggest number.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
2293
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Posted - 2014.02.07 01:10:00 -
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Apparently "Dust" is living up to it's name.
Zzzzzz.
Nullsec in a Nutshell:
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4037
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Posted - 2014.02.07 01:18:00 -
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mechtech wrote:Dust has like 4,000 concurrent players per day, it's really quite low: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dustEve has 40k concurrent players and 500k subs (active players), so I'd wager dust really has 50k or so active players in reality.
There was a time when 4,000 online was a record day for EVE. They kept at it and today we have over 50,000 on many days.
It's the nature of making outside-the-box games. Dust is still new and if CCP keeps improving it, it will keep growing as well. Just because everyone wants it to fail for their own malicious reasons, doesn't mean it will fail.
While I'll never play it myself as I'm a die hard PC gamer, I only wish the best for CCP to make dust live up to it's potential.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
ACE McFACE
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1745
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Posted - 2014.02.07 01:25:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Apparently "Dust" is living up to it's name.
Zzzzzz.
No it would only live up to its name if it was called Tumbleweed514
You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |
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Max Cesar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.02.07 05:25:00 -
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4k Eve players that own a PS3.
I'm waiting for a PC release of Dust.
Should you count the same person more them once anyway?
When Valkyrie launch they will claim 1,5 milion players universe, even thou they are the same 500k eve players. |
Anomaly One
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2014.02.07 05:26:00 -
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I want Dust 514 to succeed and every EvE player should too
Just port it to PC please..
Never forget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4
Trust me, I'm an Anomaly.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8933
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Posted - 2014.02.07 05:32:00 -
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EVE players wanted DUST to fail before it was even released, and now that it's been out for a while and still doing mediocre they act all surprised and angry and say it's all CCP's fault.
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Tarpedo
Incursionista
1134
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Posted - 2014.02.07 08:02:00 -
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EVE has 50k peak online during weekends and there are 500k accounts. Dust have 4k peaks and therefore there are 50k players at best - and 70-80% play for free so there are like 10-15k paying customers (20-30% paying customers = good number for F2P game). Sounds like pure win for f2p game which consumed millions to develop.
Most likely 400k number = accounts registered during a year. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
1255
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Posted - 2014.02.07 08:23:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:4-500k accounts for a free to play title is nothing. On F2P they reason in term of milions.
Also don't say if counting the chinese server too. And is fun doesn't say how many of these 900 are from EVE and how many from dust.
They never put chinese server in coutn. They already said that. Chinese server is not administrated by CCP. They licensed the game for another company.
"If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
1255
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Posted - 2014.02.07 08:24:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:EVE players wanted DUST to fail before it was even released, and now that it's been out for a while and still doing mediocre they act all surprised and angry and say it's all CCP's fault.
No. Eve players did not wanted it to fail. We predicted it would fail because CCP was sttuborn to not release it for PC and not link it DIRECTLY to EVE sov system.
That was the ONLY chance Dust ever had to be successfull... now its gone. Dust is dead
"If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8935
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Posted - 2014.02.07 08:36:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:EVE players wanted DUST to fail before it was even released, and now that it's been out for a while and still doing mediocre they act all surprised and angry and say it's all CCP's fault. No. Eve players did not wanted it to fail.
Bullshit.
Kagura Nikon wrote:We predicted it would fail because CCP was sttuborn to not release it for PC and not link it DIRECTLY to EVE sov system.
Because diversifying your target audience on a different but related product is totally a bad idea.
Kagura Nikon wrote:That was the ONLY chance Dust ever had to be successfull... now its gone. Dust is dead
No, it isn't. It's not doing terrific, but there's no reason it can't do better with improvements. It's not like EVE did all that great when it first came out.
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Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
Insurance Fraud.
648
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Posted - 2014.02.07 08:50:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:EVE players wanted DUST to fail before it was even released, and now that it's been out for a while and still doing mediocre they act all surprised and angry and say it's all CCP's fault.
Clarify "EVE players", because I have an alliance full of Dust fans that refused to believe it would die until I finally came around to liking it post-LAV nerf.
There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |
Striscio
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2014.02.07 09:10:00 -
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It's possible since you just need a PS3 and Internet connection.
Dust is F2P and grant a minor passive training to one character per account. Anyone that tried it, even in beta, now own a "active account" unless they directly applied for deleting it (process unknown to me, not sure it's even possible). |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2012
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Posted - 2014.02.07 10:13:00 -
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Terranid Meester wrote:Your Dad Naked wrote:For some crazy reason, I read that as "******" at first. EDIT: Holy smokes, you can't say the name of Germany's WW2 dictator? again! Stalin! Milosevic! Not all mass murderers are blocked it seems.
That is because I am now a reformed character.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2631
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Posted - 2014.02.07 10:21:00 -
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mechtech wrote:Dust has like 4,000concurrent players per day
Pick one, or the other.
Dust has, at any particular point in time, around 4000 people connected. What I'd be interested in knowing is: How long do people play for. I'd suspect it'll be less than Eve players. Which means that the number of people who play is higher.
Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!
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Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
SpaceSaft
Sub Par.
Beacon Light Alliance
41
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Posted - 2014.02.07 10:27:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Because diversifying your target audience on a different but related product is totally a bad idea.
The problem here is that EVE pretty much runs on niche. Making a game that is linked to your galactic space empire building rpg and pulling an FPS cover over it, with the hopes that the FPS is what will broaden the audience is not really hitting the nail.
I mean there is a reason that so many people buy COD right? You really can't deny that they specifically don't buy the other FPS games out there. That's something EA & DICE have been struggeling for years afaik. Even Battlefield and COD are so much unlike each other that they attract different audiences.
I don't mean to say that diversifying your target audience is a bad idea.
I mean to say that the means to do so are probably a little less obvious than forming a sentence with the words "console" and "first person shooter" in it.
Besides that I also hold the opinion that CCP should make a PC version for Dust 514. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4050
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Posted - 2014.02.07 10:31:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:
Dust has, at any particular point in time, around 4000 people connected. What I'd be interested in knowing is: How long do people play for. I'd suspect it'll be less than Eve players. Which means that the number of people who play is higher.
Based on personal experience (15 year old FPS junkie son), most platformers stay about an hour max on any one game. Kids these days have the attention span of a... I can't even think of anything with less of an attention span, to be honest.
I'll spend up to eight or ten hours logged in at a time and I don't think I'm that unusual.
So the Dust numbers are probably higher than they have been made out to be in this thread.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
1378
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Posted - 2014.02.07 10:34:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:4-500k accounts for a free to play title is nothing. On F2P they reason in term of milions.
Also don't say if counting the chinese server too. And is fun doesn't say how many of these 900 are from EVE and how many from dust.
IIRC last summer there was over 2 million dust characters created, so the 'active' definition is definitely based on people who are active.
http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
Nyan |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8937
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Posted - 2014.02.07 10:41:00 -
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If Hilmar wanted to inflate numbers he could have given the total amount of accounts in EVE, both subscribed and unsubscribed. He went for a useful number instead. Which means he probably did the same for DUST.
I mean, are you actually suggesting that only 400,000 people out of everyone on PSN bothered to make an account on a not-obscure F2P game?
The lower PCU could probably also be accounted for by EVE being, for many players, a game played to the exclusion of others, while DUST is probably one of many games its players enjoy on a periodic basis. I doubt it's as likely that DUST players are as likely to log in and play as often as EVE players - it's just not that kind of game.
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Gregor Parud
207
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Posted - 2014.02.07 10:42:00 -
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f2p overly inflated numbers, who knew. |
Pandora Barzane
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2014.02.07 11:01:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:EVE players wanted DUST to fail before it was even released, and now that it's been out for a while and still doing mediocre they act all surprised and angry and say it's all CCP's fault.
and here's a newsflash for you, you are also a eve player. So by your demented logic you also wants dust to fail.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8941
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:08:00 -
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Pandora Barzane wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:EVE players wanted DUST to fail before it was even released, and now that it's been out for a while and still doing mediocre they act all surprised and angry and say it's all CCP's fault. and here's a newsflash for you, you are also a eve player. So by your demented logic you also wants dust to fail.
The word "many" is implied.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:33:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:Also don't say if counting the chinese server too... They don't count...
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Brave Collective
994
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:43:00 -
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Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:oh so how does dust finaly worked out? has it died yet?
Not yet, its probably still sucking the POS rewamp money to stay alive. Soon it will die, just give it time. 
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Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
180
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:49:00 -
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Not sure about dust but this statement from Hilmar: "EVE OnlineGÇ¥ has more than 500,000 players around the world"
I think the number given by Hilmar is an exageration. In Eve, most players have at least two accounts. So the use of the word PLAYER is completely misleading. I wonder if he is counting the un-sub accounts as well as the active ones. Or he is also counting the alternate characters each accounts has? I cannot see how he can try to make people believe that 500K players are playing Eve on an active (connected) basis.
About the use of the word active, what does it really mean? The number of "accounts" connected to the game has hard time hitting the 50K mark during the week. Also, if he was trying to "impress" is investors, I would specify that the trial accounts and the ones being payed in ISKs are also included in the 500K.
This all look like another business leader trying to impress the galery with IS interpretation of the numbers |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Brave Collective
994
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Posted - 2014.02.07 12:53:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:We predicted it would fail because CCP was sttuborn to not release it for PC and not link it DIRECTLY to EVE sov system. Because diversifying your target audience on a different but related product is totally a bad idea.
No its actually a good idea. But that's not what they did. Diversifying = Keep the same stuff (players) + add new stuff. Here it was exclude current stuff (players) + add new stuff. Which is excluding.
And yes, excluding your most reliable and willing-to-stick-around audience, is suicide.
Not counting the whole joke of developping it for PS3 instead of PS4.
Plus a PS4 being closer to a PC, they could've made a cheap crossover.
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RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
377
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:43:00 -
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Dust is a horrible game and if you dont agree then you standards of FPS is extremely low.
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Notorious Fellon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
195
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Posted - 2014.02.07 14:09:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:Dust is a horrible game and if you dont agree then you standards of FPS is extremely low.
Or it is just someone's opinion, which is valid whether you agree with it or not.
Get over yourself. |
MestariBation
Tactical Carebear Squad
74
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Posted - 2014.02.07 14:13:00 -
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It's all 900000 EVE Community Devs playing dust
Send me isk im poor |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs
Monkeys with Guns.
118
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Posted - 2014.02.07 14:14:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:Dust is a horrible game and if you dont agree then you standards of FPS is extremely low.
"Sounding harsh makes me look cool and insulting you tops it off nicely"
There, fixed that for you. |
RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
377
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Posted - 2014.02.07 14:15:00 -
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Notorious Fellon wrote:RomeStar wrote:Dust is a horrible game and if you dont agree then you standards of FPS is extremely low. Or it is just someone's opinion, which is valid whether you agree with it or not. Get over yourself.
I get over myself everytime I log into Eve.
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Qalix
Long Jump.
93
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Posted - 2014.02.07 14:49:00 -
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If they offered Dust on PCs, I would definitely give it a shot. I think going console-only is where they shot themselves in teh foot. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
455
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Posted - 2014.02.07 15:21:00 -
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i haz 3 toons(dust) , 1 really active , other 2 not so much(just skilling atm like eve alts)
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy
The ROC
2331
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Posted - 2014.02.07 15:22:00 -
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Gotta agree with some of the guys above, if DUST were on PC, it would be a damn sight more popular.
The real issue right now is that they released in on PS3, which was very shortly replaced as a console in the open market by the rapidly selling PS4 (even I have one, and I've been PC-Master-race for years).
But if it made it onto PC, then it's a diversion that the actual EVE players can engage in, and here's the kicker, on the same machine they play EVE on in the first place.
It's a guaranteed market, since you know that anyone who plays EVE has a PC, by default.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
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Flamespar
Woof Club
1052
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Posted - 2014.02.07 15:51:00 -
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I'm playing Dust and enjoying it. Personally I don't think that porting it to PC would be the magic bullet people seem to think it is.
Hilmar's statement is encouraging. I didn't think that there were that many players.
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone.
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Sirinda
Oberon Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
297
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Posted - 2014.02.07 16:29:00 -
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Terranid Meester wrote:Your Dad Naked wrote:For some crazy reason, I read that as "******" at first. EDIT: Holy smokes, you can't say the name of Germany's WW2 dictator? again! Stalin! Milosevic! Not all mass murderers are blocked it seems.
Harris!
Mao Zedong!
You're right. Not all mass murderers are filtered. |
Arduemont
The State of War.
Vendetta Mercenary Group
2997
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Posted - 2014.02.07 16:41:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Why are we assuming the numbers are in base 10?
Maybe it's in octal, Dust has no players, and Eve has dropped to just over 300k players. That seems more likely.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice."
www.stateofwar.co.nf |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS
CODE.
222
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:26:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Why are we assuming the numbers are in base 10?
Because 900,000 can't exist in a lower base, and we all know eve doesn't have millions of players, so it can't be a higher base.
Arduemont wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Why are we assuming the numbers are in base 10? Maybe it's in octal, Dust has no players, and Eve has dropped to just over 300k players. That seems more likely.
Unfortuanetly 900K can't exist in octal.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
10047
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:29:00 -
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Its perfectly fine to exaggerate when youre excited.
Its perfectly hilarious when you exaggerate to the media.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
25
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Posted - 2014.02.07 23:35:00 -
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yeah those numbers may be active but if they are truely active then their not playing it seems. |
Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Public Disorder.
210
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Posted - 2014.02.08 00:33:00 -
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Dust has a much more active playerbase than people give it credit for. I'd actually go so far as to say its more active than EVE probably is in terms of real, unique people playing it.
EVE, as we know, has most serious players running a minimum of 2-3 accounts. Some players run far more. Then you have to take into account that a lot of eve activities reward people for essentially staying logged in all day long. These two major factors result in EVE concurrent numbers snowballing up throughout the day until it's bloated around 50k.
Nothing in Dust will reward you for doing that, aside from killing your PS3 due to overheating it. So people simply don't do it.
That doesn't mean you don't have a large number of people who actively play the game, log on and off every day for small periods of time, and just happen to contribute to a legitimate concurrent number around 4k. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
708
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:16:00 -
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Pandora Barzane wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:EVE players wanted DUST to fail before it was even released, and now that it's been out for a while and still doing mediocre they act all surprised and angry and say it's all CCP's fault. and here's a newsflash for you, you are also a eve player. So by your demented logic you also wants dust to fail.
I'd be perfectly cool if dust succeeded as that would make it self sustaining and not chewing EVE resources, but by the same token I don't want the universe doing impossible things on me, because of my structured worldview, likelyhood of cognitive dissonance and all that.
A PC port so dust and eve ran on the same client platform and could thus cross market properly, and so that ultimately eve<->dust experiences could be more seamlessly integrated into a combined arms game... oh hey wouldya look at that, I just done tripped myself over an elephant in this room.
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
White Mountain Coalition
1003
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:17:00 -
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I don't believe that dust is that successful, it smells like bull **** to me.
Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
P3ps1 Max
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.02.08 04:51:00 -
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Yea, I'd say that is exaggerated by 2 extra digits. |
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
210
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Posted - 2014.02.08 04:52:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:Pandora Barzane wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:EVE players wanted DUST to fail before it was even released, and now that it's been out for a while and still doing mediocre they act all surprised and angry and say it's all CCP's fault. and here's a newsflash for you, you are also a eve player. So by your demented logic you also wants dust to fail. I'd be perfectly cool if dust succeeded as that would make it self sustaining and not chewing EVE resources, but by the same token I don't want the universe doing impossible things on me, because of my structured worldview, likelyhood of cognitive dissonance and all that. A PC port so dust and eve ran on the same client platform and could thus cross market properly, and so that ultimately eve<->dust experiences could be more seamlessly integrated into a combined arms game... oh hey wouldya look at that, I just done tripped myself over an elephant in this room.
The moment you open Dust to PC you effectively put New Eden into the hands of whichever alliance has more hackers.
It would be pretty much the worst idea ever, except that it's right behind the fact that it's on the PS3 and they used Unreal to power it. I guess hiring a bunch of cheap Chinese labor to make a ground breaking video game and going for the absolute cheapest engine they could find didn't really pan out for them. |
Luej
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.02.08 06:28:00 -
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I play and enjoy dust
The only real problem with it at the moment is getting wrecked against stacked teams |
Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
210
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Posted - 2014.02.08 07:57:00 -
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Matchmaking remains the largest problem for day-to-day pubbing.
Squads should be forced to fight other squads. If you are putting one organized group of individuals against a group of disorganized individuals, the battle was decided by the matchmaking system and not by the players.
That's bad game design, period. |
Arduemont
The State of War.
Vendetta Mercenary Group
3005
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Posted - 2014.02.08 11:51:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Arduemont wrote:
Maybe it's in octal, Dust has no players, and Eve has dropped to just over 300k players. That seems more likely.
Unfortuanetly 900K can't exist in octal.
I feel bad. I'm going to go wash out my brain.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice."
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