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Hugh Ruka	Posted - 2006.04.06 09:32:00 - [31] well I think amarr should get a bs with smartbomb bonus. close close range beast. gallente have it all already, strong drone boat, a rail boat and a somewhat hard to use blaster boat. maybe a specialist blaster boat could do, with bonuses to only blasters and mwd/cap ? minmatar I know nothing about, so can't tell. but a missile boat maybe. caldari, well a ferox like BS would not be good imo. but a rail sniper boat with optimal and tracking bonus with the scorpion hull and 6(7)/6/4 layout could do. ------------------------------ if you want peace, prepare for war ... ------------------------------ Removed due to offensive content - Laqum I realy liked my signature. Oh well
Sarmaul 2	Posted - 2006.04.06 09:33:00 - [32] Originally by: madaluap i want a sexy gallente damp bs, now that would be cool. offcourse it would have double bonus to damp...-80% each damp 5% effectivness and 10% falloff? (suggested in another thread) ___________________________________ Account Cancelled
madaluap	Posted - 2006.04.06 09:42:00 - [33] Edited by: madaluap on 06/04/2006 09:42:19 Originally by: Sarmaul 2 Originally by: madaluap i want a sexy gallente damp bs, now that would be cool. offcourse it would have double bonus to damp...-80% each damp 5% effectivness and 10% falloff? (suggested in another thread) problem is: jammers are very powerfull so, frigs and cruisers get a bonus to usage, not strenght. only 1 bs (scorp) gets a bonus to strenght of jammers. dampeners are less powerfull so the frigs and cruisers get a bonus to dampeners strenght, this means a bs sized version of damp with just a 5% would be quite weak. it needs something like 7.5% bonus and something like 7 medslots. 7.5% may sound weird, but tracking is allready getting boosted in oncoming patch from 5% to 7.5% also making blasterthron more of a option. _________________________________________________
Darwinia	Posted - 2006.04.06 09:45:00 - [34] I would prefer +10% optimal +10% falloff by far ------------------------ I don't believe in sigs.
madaluap	Posted - 2006.04.06 09:58:00 - [35] Originally by: Darwinia I would prefer +10% optimal +10% falloff by far mah than they are useless in situations below 30 k...unlike scorps that can go from 0 to veeery far (dont know how far exactly, but its far) _________________________________________________
Chi Prime	Posted - 2006.04.06 10:15:00 - [36] There is currently no EW counter to tech 2 sniping (225km+). Giving a ship 10% to remote sensor dampener falloff would give 15% dampening at 225km (18% if the second bonus is 5% to effectiveness). Scorps with ECM are really ineffective at such ranges (i.e. the likelyhood of a successful jam is so small).
Randay	Posted - 2006.04.06 10:19:00 - [37] yeah i agree with the op, who the hell wants more content? why cant we just play the same old game for the next 5 years??!! wtf is ccp thinking! ------------------------------------------- "Det hSr kan betyda krig!"
Jarek Naumen	Posted - 2006.04.06 10:43:00 - [38] Originally by: inSpirAcy Originally by: Gogar Teltaf they wont replace the current BS, they will serve a different role, just like the T1andT2 battleships do now. I don't think he's even aware that Tier 1 battleships serve a role. Probably thinks they're a poor man's Tier 2 BS. Hey he's right. The Domi just sucks . ROA Forums Removed -Pls dont post Killboard links :).Laurelin
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.04.06 10:49:00 - [39] we should have another tier 1, not a tier 3 @BrokenRecord off Win a Cerberus!! sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:\|. - Teblin
BlueOrca	Posted - 2006.04.06 11:24:00 - [40] What about this: another T1 BS for each race with dampener bonus, drones, target painter and minig( you know where the bonuses go for each race ) and a new T3 BS that can be a Fleet command with bonuses closer to that of each race BC. So for gallente it will be a blaster boat with rep bonus.
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.04.06 11:39:00 - [41] Originally by: Jarek Naumen Originally by: inSpirAcy Originally by: Gogar Teltaf they wont replace the current BS, they will serve a different role, just like the T1andT2 battleships do now. I don't think he's even aware that Tier 1 battleships serve a role. Probably thinks they're a poor man's Tier 2 BS. Hey he's right. The Domi just sucks . indeed, the domi sucks allot ---------------- Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.04.06 11:50:00 - [42] please end the punning Win a Cerberus!! sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:\|. - Teblin
Wanten	Posted - 2006.04.06 11:55:00 - [43] surely haveing a rail raven or an ew apoc or similar will loose the disparity between the races that makes eve interesting, caldari a missile specialists, amarr laser etc etc, i fear some tier 3 bs may make it easy to have every capability with training just one race, with caldari bs 5 i could fly an uber raven or railgun ship (assuming the tier 3 will be a rail ship) i would like to see something more rounded like a NOS ship, or bs size log ships, maybe even an expanded cargo hold, say 1500m3 and maybe not altering what weapons can be used. ----------------------------------------------- Rona Corp
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.04.06 12:04:00 - [44] Originally by: HippoKing please end the punning NEY! ---------------- Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
Chi Prime	Posted - 2006.04.06 12:12:00 - [45] This issue has been brought up several times by various people, but I feel I need to add my own... A lot of people say "Caldari = missiles, Gallente = hybrid, Amarr = lasers and Minmatar = projectiles". This simply isn't true. Every race has two weapon types they are required to train. It's more like this: Caldari = Hybrids (especially Railguns) and missiles (Merlin is higher tier than the Kestrel, and the Moa is higher tier than the Caracal.) Gallente = Hybrid (especially Blasters) and drones (and Roden Shipyards even favor missiles over drones) Minmatar = Projectiles and missiles Amarr = Lasers and drones (look at the dronebays compared to Caldari and Minmatar) In addition to that you have the EW flavors (Caldari = ECM, Gallente = Dampeners, Amarr = tracking disrupt, Minmatar = target painting). The one point people seem to scream the highest about is that missiles is "Caldari's thing". I don't see that at all. To me it seems that railguns are their primary thing, and missiles their secondary (again, Merlin is higher tier than the Kestrel, and the Moa is higher tier than the Caracal). Consider Missiles the caldari shortrange weapon, and railguns their longrange weapon.
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.04.06 12:31:00 - [46] Originally by: Randay yeah i agree with the op, who the hell wants more content? why cant we just play the same old game for the next 5 years??!! wtf is ccp thinking! /SignZ0rDZzz!!11111one Op -> Shaaat uppp will ya?.. ofc we want tier 3 bs's.
Lucita Thoron	Posted - 2006.04.06 12:43:00 - [47] Edited by: Lucita Thoron on 06/04/2006 12:44:41 I think if they do make Tier 3 Battleships. The devs should really make a cool minmatar one. I would prefer however to see a new Tier 2 or Tier 1 battleship enter the game. Just to show the Empires inside the game are still improving. I mean the Game is suppose to be a RPG. In some respects and i think the storyline and R + D of the major empires is lacking somewhat. I would love the minnie Rulers to go.. Look a new Tier 2 bs. We have been working on this for many years and it can actually Tank... and has a bonus worth training for. Then the other Empires would have to make an Answer and more ships would be released to counter the new one. Imagine the Caldari getting bored and saying, We will make a drone carrier bs. Its the reason they lost the war after all. So it would make sense to counter the Gallente threat. Race bonus only for Races - That would be cool too. "In ancient times they had no statistics so they had to fall back on lies."
Ithildin	Posted - 2006.04.06 14:03:00 - [48] The reason they lost the war was becuase their clone vats and tube inseminations couldn't keep up with good old fashion Gallentean decadence. They were simply outnumbered and outgunned. Funny thing was that their strong point was manouverability, while the Gallenteans were electronic warfare (simplification, yes yes, but Intaki is the race that starts with a bonus to EWar), but... meh! As for racial bonuses, simply enough it won't EVER happen. A few comment on those lines were: "If I'm Intaki, why do I suddenly have a bonus to EWar? I don't do EWar!" "If we'd have had it in game, we'd have had to done it long ago before launch" or "I don't like flying Minmatar ships, why can't I have bonuses on Caldari ships instead?" Simply put, the player base is about 3 year too old for racial (truely racial) bonuses. P.S. It's OK for Caldari, Amarr, or Minmatar to make drone ships, as long as the Gallentean ones are better (i.e. HIGH TIER). How'd it look if Gallente got a missile ship with, like, missile ROF and missile (all kinds) damage, as well as 8 launchers, while Caldari got a railboat? Or if Minmatar made a ship with 3k armour more than ANY other BShip and a capacitor that's so strong it's even immune to NOS while Amarr's stuck with ships that're drained from shooting lasers? Or worse, while we're stomping on holy grounds, Amarr made a fast-attack, extremely low sig radius ship, with a max speed of 300 before modules. Racial identity, people, it's what puts spice and diversity into the game. If you want to fly drone ships, you better fly Gallente. I fly Amarr ships when I want to tank and Caldari ships when I want to do ECM, I don't go around making half arsed setups on Gallente ships. Arkanor > Gallente missileboat might be cool. KilROCK > Pod yourself till you got no skills.
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.04.06 15:47:00 - [49] "The reason they lost the war was becuase their clone vats and tube inseminations couldn't keep up with good old fashion Gallentean decadence." ... thought the decadence involves making sure there is no actual results from it, because it gets in the way of getting more fun. (well that, and last i checked two males having err, fun, still don't produce offspring, so not sure how exactly Gallentean decadence helps here any... :s
Krulla	Posted - 2006.04.06 16:12:00 - [50] Originally by: HippoKing we should have another tier 1, not a tier 3 @BrokenRecord off I've also been saying that for a while now.. would make more sense. Think about it. Caldari need a rail battleship. Caldari are EW and missile specialists. Would it make sense for the Caldari to design their biggest, meanest, and most powerful battleship around a role which for them is just a niche? No, it would not. Same for a minnie missile boat, a gallentean dampener ship, and a amarrian drone boat.. A tier I for all those ideas would be perfectly reasonable, a tier 3 would not. Respect the Domi. Or else. SIG HIJACK!!11 RAWRR!!1- IMMY
Koth Krakenworth	Posted - 2006.04.06 17:07:00 - [51] Edited by: Koth Krakenworth on 06/04/2006 17:12:15 Originally by: Krulla Originally by: HippoKing we should have another tier 1, not a tier 3 @BrokenRecord off I've also been saying that for a while now.. would make more sense. Think about it. Caldari need a rail battleship. Caldari are EW and missile specialists. Would it make sense for the Caldari to design their biggest, meanest, and most powerful battleship around a role which for them is just a niche? No, it would not. Same for a minnie missile boat, a gallentean dampener ship, and a amarrian drone boat.. A tier I for all those ideas would be perfectly reasonable, a tier 3 would not. Bleh, if I was caldari and wanted rails I would just train gallente bs lvl 4 (not too heavy, what, 2 weeks at most from scratch?) and get myself a megathron. Likewise, since I am minmatar, I would not like to see a halfarsed minmatar missileboat when I, if I wanted a battleship good for missiles, would just spend those pesky weeks to get myself a raven instead of flying some halfdecent crap. Give the races T3 ships that are the best at what they do, and that is not by taking over the main weaponry of other races. "I want a caldari railboat! I want an amarrian dronecarrier! I want a minmatar missileship! I want a gallente ewar platform!" These are all just stupid arguments for being to lazy to spend a few days training a different battleship skill. If you want diversity, don't be a loyalist and only stick with one race. Leave the races for the specialists who truly care about the main weaponry. Instead of looking to other races for inspiration, look at what your own already got and how it can be variated. Surely lasers can be used for a third amarrian battleship and still fulfilling a totally different purpose then the others? A change of bonuses and slots can do so much to the function of a ship you couldn't believe it. Originally by: Testy Mctest If one point of scram is enough to hold anyone in anything that costs more than a BC, then I dispute that they know how to fit their ships properly :)
blood red	Posted - 2006.04.06 17:34:00 - [52] yes yes!! no tier 3!! how about another tier 1 or 2 like has been mentioned, that would be pretty cool. its just that the current ideas flying for tier 3 seem to all be 8 turret beasts with 20K+ grid and 700+ cpu etc. and that seems a bit overboard to me.
Gabriel Karade	Posted - 2006.04.06 17:45:00 - [53] Trying to 'pigeon-hole' the Tier 3 designs into a bigger version of the cruiser below is boring an unoriginal. I hope they do something interesting, perhaps emphasis shifting towards tanking over damage bonuses, that way you won't make the Tier 1 and 2 obsolete. Oh and please no more EW Battleships. In my opinion it was a mistake to make the Scorpion such a one trick pony, itÆs more a 425mm railgun boat in the fiction... EW should have remained in the hands of the dedicated support frigates/cruisers and later, Recon ships ---------- - Office Linebacker -
Zysco	Posted - 2006.04.06 17:52:00 - [54] Edited by: Zysco on 06/04/2006 17:53:38 Originally by: Chi Prime Amarr = Lasers and drones (look at the dronebays compared to Caldari and Minmatar). Hi. Apoc = 3 heavy drones geddon = 5 heavy drones maller = 0 drones arb = 5 med drones zealot = 0 drones sac = 3 light drones phoon = 5 heavy drones pest = 3 heavy drones rupture = 3 med drones vaga = 5 light drones muninn = 5 light drones Yes, the amarr are obviously the secondary drone race. People base everything on the fact that the arb is a droneship. So 1 out of all of the amarr ships is a drone ship. Meanwhile their tier 3 cruiser has 0 dronespace, as does their HACs (ok, sac gets 3 lights, whoopdedoo). Originally by: Ginger Magician I have the fingerspeed of a teenager the brains of a rocket scientist and the tactical nous of a 5 star general. Why do u think I'm so freaking good?
Elegant	Posted - 2006.04.06 18:20:00 - [55] Amarr teir3 BS = Smart Bomb boat Minnie teir3 BS = Tackler with web/scram bonuses Gallente teir3 BS = Covert BS Caldari teir3 BS = Gang Bonuses built in
Livia Tarquina	Posted - 2006.04.06 23:22:00 - [56] I'd like to see a utility BS. I think we have enough combat ones for now. "Big guns and heavy armor what else is there?" --Amarrian Admiral before entering battle against Jove Navy
Rohann	Posted - 2006.04.06 23:25:00 - [57] Originally by: blood red i think anyone who wants to replace their megathron/raven/apocalypse/tempest needs a kick in the junk. so there. Hi. Now go back to WoW kthxbye
Benglada	Posted - 2006.04.06 23:29:00 - [58] Originally by: Tachy There aren't even T2 BS. The ships in development are tier3 BS. That's T1. do you see the word tech anywhere? GJ, heres a cookie --------------------------- Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
danneh	Posted - 2006.04.06 23:58:00 - [59] A Tachyon Platform for my Tier 3 Amarr Battleship thanks! Contraband Inc
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.07 01:00:00 - [60] Amarr ----- There is no reason to make the Amarr tier 3 BS a drone ship. That is what the Archon is for. There however, does need to be a 8, 5, 7 with enough pgrid to fit 8 tachs without a grid module on max skills with NO drones. This ship should have the armageddon bonii. Gallente -------- There is no reason for the Gallente to even have a tier 3 BS unless it is a mini-capital ship that is centered around electronic warfare tbh. Domi is just fine as the drone monger and the carrier and dread are its bigger brothers that well define Gallente as drone users. The scorpion needs a counter and its only proper that it goes gallente with dampners or even ECCM. An seemingly unjammable rail boat would be VERY useful in fleet combat. Megathron sized drone bay. Caldari ------- This needs to be the answer to the Megathron w. Railguns. 7 guns, Optimal range bonus, plenty of lock range and possible bonus to tracking. This ship should only have 4 to 5 mids and 6 lows. Minmatar -------- 8 - 5 - 7 with no missile slots. All or nothing Howitzer platform that moves like an armageddon. RoF and Damage bonus and enough pgrid to fit 8 1400 IIs with max skills and 1 RCU II. Tempest sized drone bay. my 0.02isk Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do

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