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Kalmarc	Posted - 2006.04.05 17:36:00 - [1] Is there any good begginer mining guides on this forum. If so could you please point me to them
Jobie Thickburger	Posted - 2006.04.05 17:50:00 - [2] My Corp CEO wrote The Miners Guide to the Galaxy. Its not the most up to date edition (he ran out of room on the Wiki) but I can't post the new edition because I changed my E-mail on the corp forum and haven't been allowed acess untill i get it confirmed... If you need help getting started feel free to Mail me in game, will help get ya going and awnser your questions If I can. _______________ Happy Hunting and Mining, Put please, No Happily Hunting Happy Miners! Jobie Thickburger Captain of Bad Investments II
Halada	Posted - 2006.04.05 18:10:00 - [3] Edited by: Halada on 05/04/2006 18:10:41 Look at my sig for a comprehensive guide, although it isn't made for total n00bs. The steps not covered: 1- Get a Bantam and mine Veldspar in 1.0 2- Train Industrial I and get a Badger I. Fit two cargo expanders in the low slots. 3- Train mining IV, so you can use miners II. Then train Industrial 3 for a Badger II. 3- Mine Veldspar in your Bantam. When the cargo is full, eject cargo. Open the new container in overview, and when your cargo is full again, transfer the mineral from your cargo to the can until it is full (it will take you a while). 4- When can is full, go back to station and hop into your Badger. Haul the can back and refine the veldspar. 5- Now that you have got refined veldspar (Trit probably) scan market for best buy orders. Refined mineral takes much less place, so you should be able to haul 600k of Trit in a Badger 1, or 991K in a Badger II. Look for regions with buy orders for trit around 1.3-1.7, and make sure they want to buy a lot. Don't travel 18 jumps to sell trit at 2.0 isk per unit for 100 units. 6- Now that you sold 600K of trit, you have around 800 000ISK - 1 000 000ISK . 7- Keep doing that. Meanwhile, train frigate 4 and then cruiser 3. Buy an Osprey, which has a big bonus to mining yield. PS. It will help if you train refining to level 4. You then reached the point where my guide is useful. My ''All you want to know about mining'' Guide
Wizerud	Posted - 2006.04.05 18:44:00 - [4] I'm still a noob. Why is training Refining to 4 useful? Is that the point where refining your ore becomes more profitable than selling your ore unrefined? Because right now, I can make more ISK by not refining it (my Refining skill is at 3). The only disadvantage is that it's a real pain in the arse to haul it around unrefined, so you're pretty much stuck (as a noob) in selling it from a station within the system you refined it.
Jobie Thickburger	Posted - 2006.04.05 18:48:00 - [5] Refining 4 is (so i'm told) when you managed to make more from refining than selling the ore strait (normally, but don't get me wrong, its sometimes worth it to search the market) Also, its a lot easier to sell Minerals than it is to sell Ore _______________ Happy Hunting and Mining, Put please, No Happily Hunting Happy Miners! Jobie Thickburger Captain of Bad Investments II
Maxell Snow	Posted - 2006.04.05 18:56:00 - [6] After reading what was offered up, feel free to contact me in game... beware of jetcan mining as ore thieves seem to be thriving... ----------------------------------------------- *An industrial based, roleplaying corporation*
Gadfly Hawke	Posted - 2006.04.05 19:21:00 - [7] Although the market seems to have reverted to normal in the last couple of days, it has spent the last few weeks inverted, so that ore was selling for more than minerals. I have perfect refining in scordite and veldspar, and it was still more profitable to sell the ore than refine it. Where you "break even" on refining is pretty variable and depends on the market. You can calculate the value of ore versus minerals using this ore calculator , which includes provision for your skills and your refinery standing. This sig for rent. Evemail me.
Wizerud	Posted - 2006.04.05 21:08:00 - [8] Ok well let's take this a little further with a few more questions: Are stations which have more than 50% inert efficiency common? If my refining efficiency is 89.75% (with Refining 3) and the station takes 5% in "taxes" due to neutral (0.0) standing, how is it possible to raise the profits I can gain from refining? I'm thinking I could buy the Connections skill which will raise my standing with the corp or do missions for the corp who own the station I'm at...anything else I haven't thought of? Thanks!
Dv8Mutt	Posted - 2006.04.06 00:28:00 - [9] So how does one go about finding Veldspar?
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.06 00:29:00 - [10] Originally by: Dv8Mutt So how does one go about finding Veldspar? Go to any asteroid belt in EVE [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Kaladr	Posted - 2006.04.06 00:38:00 - [11] Originally by: Wizerud Ok well let's take this a little further with a few more questions: Are stations which have more than 50% inert efficiency common? If my refining efficiency is 89.75% (with Refining 3) and the station takes 5% in "taxes" due to neutral (0.0) standing, how is it possible to raise the profits I can gain from refining? I'm thinking I could buy the Connections skill which will raise my standing with the corp or do missions for the corp who own the station I'm at...anything else I haven't thought of? Thanks! The 50% is the max base. Perfect refines are at 5/4/1 (Refining 5, Refine Effic 4, Ore specific one lvl 1). Note that the ore specific ones don't show in the station % you're quoted, but they apply. To raise standing, do missions for the corp or train connections (really do both). ---- EVE-Central.com \| Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me
Maxell Snow	Posted - 2006.04.06 02:31:00 - [12] 5/3/2 also offers perfect refines on at least ore up to hemo and jaspet... ----------------------------------------------- *An industrial based, roleplaying corporation*

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