So, a pretty big nerf to drone assisting has just been announced here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=319278

This is more than likely going to result in a change in fleet doctrines. How do you think the prices of Ishtars, Dominix's and Archons will change? Post your thoughts here!

Also, due to the fact that a change in fleet doctrine of some big alliances could occur, it's probably a good time to start speculating, as an increase in demand will result in an increase in price (theoretically any way). Again, post your thoughts on what could be the next big fleet doctrine here!

Personally, I think that Dominix's have just been gutted for large fleet PvP and will have to be scrapped as a doctrine. Possibly a noticable price drop inbound.

Hull repping drones have also been announced:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=317033

feel free to discuss those in this thread as well (will demand be as high? Higher? It's possible!)

Speculate!

Toughts fo someone that never used the clearly. Dominixes are still the most powerful fleet battleship.. by MILES!!!

Vastly over-estimating the impact of this "nerf".

sentries were stupidly OP

Perhaps you didn't read the thread. It says somewhere that Dominix's currently dish out 5x more dps than the second favorite PvP ship in the game. They said that if this number doesn't decrease, they will have failed to nerf it and will try something else.

I can't put a number on it, but currently Dominixes are responsible for somewhere in the ballpark of 5 times the PVP damage dealt of the next most popular fleet battleship, if that's still the case in a few months this will have 'not worked'.

Maybe you want to reread what CCP Rise said about Domis. He didn't say, what you think he said:

And the impact of the changes to drone assisst is probably overrated. Under heavy TiDi drone assist had issues anyway.

Incursion pilots are already developing a plan around this, so will drone swarms, easily solved just wont be as powerful as 1 guy hitting f1 and 1k drones firing all at once. just a matter of now having multiple drone bunnies now.

It's not just assist that's been changed, sentries have gone from having the best damage application of any battleship weapons to being balanced. The omnidirectional change was more significant than the requirement to have multiple drone bunnies.

No more insta-popping moving, heavily tanked heavy interdictors at 100km.


Drone paraphenalia remains in heavy flux pricewise but is way down on what it was prior to the announcements of these changes. Ishtar hulls have held up due to ratting applications.

What drone "paraphernalia" (really?) are way down?

Drones mods prices are the same, drone prices are the same, and drone hull prices are the same (increasing actually). Don't fabricate data to prove your imaginary point. It is already explained above, it doesn't matter what the demand or supply, or how effective the hull is, the only thing affecting the price of a perfectly elastic supplied (google it) good is the cost of those minerals. I am extremely annoyed with people that think they understand economics because they looked at a couple of spreadsheets, and infect other people with their nonsense.

And this is completely unrelated but you can still insta pop dictors, just instead of 30 domins you are going to need 50. The omnidirectional change is more significant in small gang warfare, but in nullsec (the bulk of the demand) where alpha is king and most big fights are in tidi, the drone assist change is more significant. Anyways those things don't matter if you want to speculate on price.

And why am I a little harsh? Because amateur self proclaimed "marketeers" that think they understand a complicated field like economics should be put out as fast as possible, like rabid dogs. And using big words doesn't make you sound smarter, just pretentious (I wait for any opportunity to use this word :P).

Drone Damage Amplifier IIs were selling for 1600k with buy orders at 1350k before the changes in Sinq Laison. Last night when I logged off they were around a million. In Jita there are over a thousand units around the 920k mark according to eve central.

All because supply is still high (not everyone who started building DDAIIs has yet realised that they should stop, and there are alliance stockpiles and personal speculation stockpiles being dumped) and demand is lower.

Ishtars in Sinq Laison are down 5% from their peak and their falling prices are causing Photon Microprocessors to drop too, back from 47k to 43.5k in Jita and 50k from a peak of 58k in Dodixie.


The supply is only perfectly elastic if everyone operates intelligently and uses the information available to them. This is not and has never been true in EVE, witness "Minerals I Mine Are Free" people, people who anticipate changes in the market and preposition for them vs people who react once they see their margins falling, and so on.

Edit: Your fundamental misconception is that you are operating upon the incorrect assumption that market shifts lead to immediate changes in what is being produced.