I'm not a racist, but...

Can't we celebrate our own core cultural heritage and sing the damn song in Gallente?

I'm not a racist, but infuriated about other races

Where they butchered [...] our national anthem."

I only can say sorry for all of those who fought and died for our freedom, I am sorry for this commercial. Can those immigrants who came to the country not learn the language? Can't we celebrate our own core cultural heritage and sing the damn song in Gallente? I mean really, dudes. And yes: I'm not a racist, but infuriated about other races, because they want destroy our Federation. So call me a true gallente, a supporter of the heartland.

What about those who fought and died for the freedom to sing it in whatever language they please?
Freedom of expression and all that.





You're a gem!

I see another leftist. See not all belive the Scope propaganda, because they are left wing nuts.[1] And I will not start with the HoloVision-die-hard-Hueromont-liberals. When was the last time they made a holoreel about a true heartland gallente, like a farmer or the average worker? Never. All you see is their gay and noir stuff.[2], but never a true lover story -- a romantic comedy -- between a white gallente male and female. On that matter, a woman today can not left the city without being harassed by a inter-city-young-matari-male. You never see those liberals defend the victim, thats why I have my gun. Im for a free country without gun control.


Do not forget:
Donate some ISK on my account with the reference "Less state, more invisible hand of nature."

*Yawns*

Oh my, what have we here? Another freshly graduated youngling showing up here spouting racist drivel and attempting to look edgy and relevant. I'm sorely disappointed in the caliber of people being passed through universities and military academies these days.

Fear not, youngling. I'll gladly contribute to your cause in the form of a nice little bounty on your miserable head.

I have never been able to understand the terms "Left" and "Right" when applied to politics. What is it supposed to mean to be a "leftist", and why is it a bad thing? I guess I'm too used to the States' triaxial political terms. Even those are too simplistic, though! I can't understand how one could boil down the entire cluster of political ideologies into "left" or "right".

I have never been able to understand the terms "Left" and "Right" when applied to politics. What is it supposed to mean to be a "leftist", and why is it a bad thing? I guess I'm too used to the States' triaxial political terms. Even those are too simplistic, though! I can't understand how one could boil down the entire cluster of political ideologies into "left" or "right".

I think the main issue here is mixing meritocracy with racism. Huge fallacy.

I can tell you firsthand it doesn't really work like that out in the real world - in extreme conditions, one learns to appreciate people of all gender and race, looking not for their heritage and bloodline, but their abilities because of a simple condition - sometimes your survival depends on this.

I'm afraid that if you never leave the confines of Luminaire, you'll never learn this. And if you never learn this, you'll never leave the confines of Luminaire.

Which brings us a textbook case of how a Federal politician is moulded. Observe and learn, youngsters.

Leftist?

No. I'm a Thukker Outrider.
That's all you need to know and worry about.

Mr. Roden (if that is your real name), why have you not commented on the various discrepancies in your argument and your identity? Are you not capable of defending yourself, or are you acknowledging that you are a fraud?

Guys like this make me realise just how fortunate I am to have emerged from the capsule implantation process with my faculties of reason and common sense intact.

It might have more to do with those psychological red versus blue dynamics. You are red because you share values with everyone else that is red because blue is evil. You are blue because you share values with everyone else that is blue and because red is evil. Purple is to be abhorred because they dared to mix.

They're just conventions, exactly like referring to electrons as having negative charge - it would be equally valid to describe them as having a white charge, or a north charge. ... Both wings can come to closely resemble one another when they approach their most extreme expressions.

Have you seen the Quafe commercial turning this years Mind Clash finals? Where they butchered "Gallente the Beautiful" our national anthem. I only can say sorry for all of those who fought and died for our freedom, I am sorry for this commercial. Can those immigrants who came to the country not learn the language? Can't we celebrate our own core cultural heritage and sing the damn song in Gallente? I mean really, dudes. And yes: I'm not a racist, but infuriated about other races, because they want destroy our Federation. So call me a true gallente, a supporter of the heartland.

Hi,

Lately I have read some books, like the Pax Amarria and some other stuff. Which brought me here today, I want to talk about a new subject: Equality of humans and biological equality.

I mean we all know, that the ethnic Gallente are most genetic diverse bloodline, and therefore are the most advance and adaptable of all bloodlines. This extreme genetic diversity allowed the ethnic Gallente to not be limited by a worldGÇÖs climate or ecology in colonization, permitting them to expand relatively rapidly compared to other races. A strong immune system and resistance to disease also helped this.[1]
So it would be reasonable to assume, that over time the cluster would be ruled by the strongest, because the strong should see their wealth and power increase while the weak should see their wealth and power decrease. But why? Why do not we see this today? I tell you. Its because of those lies of our modern society. The Federation itself had become an enemy of the gallente people. Its welfare- and nanny-state had led to its current position. So what can we do? First: (1) We have to accept, that humans are not equal. (2) That we all subject of evolution and natural selection. (3) All public institutions which are working against the invisible hand of nature, working in truth againts the self-interest of the nation. (4) The Federation works with its the nanny state institution against the average working man, against the ethnic gallente people.

We have to free ourself from those lies of equality, and accept the truth that stands straight in fornt of us. We can not deny this truth. No longer. Ones we could afford the luxury of equality, those lies, but now this time has to end. So I hope you people will join my cause: Less state, more invisible hand of nature.

You can do it by:
- Just post in your Galnet bio: "Less state, more invisible hand of nature." Or
- Or donate some ISK on my account with the reference "Less state, more invisible hand of nature."


Here it should be said that I am not a racist. Im just a concerned citizen. The migration of those intercity-matari-free-raiders in our welfare- and health-systems has to end; no more handouts for lazy people. The same counts for those new immigrants, the stampede will destroy our health services, welfare benefits and education system. We have to start to work in the self-interest of the nation and our race. Stop the blind hunting of racism, which is only reverse racism. Again, It should be said that I am not a racist. Im just a concerned citizen form the heart of the Fed. Moreover some people use the derogatory term: fly-over-people for us, but I just can tell all those people: "You are the racist."

Mr. Roden (if that is your real name), why have you not commented on the various discrepancies in your argument and your identity? Are you not capable of defending yourself, or are you acknowledging that you are a fraud?

This thread is going places and fast.

Well your points are fatally flawed so theres not much to discuss other than how much of a moron you are.

-Eran

I don't think you even know what you're saying. I certainly don't. Maybe look up the definition of esoteric before speaking on it.

With that said, if we were to follow your logic that "All public institutions which are working against the invisible hand of nature, working in truth againts the self-interest of the nation," then 1) you would not have gone to University of Caille as schools wouldn't exist, 2) your parents would've abandoned you after birth and you likely wouldn't be here today, and 3) the ideas of Laws to protect the weak and innocent would not exist and you'd be living in hell, if you somehow managed to survive.

Your logic sucks. Beginning to think you're just another troll.

-Eran

I can read, thanks.

I never disagreed with the fact humans are unequal. I disagree with what you propose because of that fact. Judging by what you said, instead of supporting the young, sick, and elderly, you'd rather they fend for themselves.

You have yet to actually confront or even acknowledge the counter-arguements presented to you. I wonder if you're capable of debate or just set to repeat the same thing. Seems all you're interested in is recieving donations.

-Eran

Humans are generally the same. There's a 2% difference between us and the next closest animal and how much actual diversity in the human genome?

I do accept that your spelling and grammar is substandard, though.

Sir,

As constructions of human groups, public services and institutions are tools used to promote survival of that group. This includes those which go against "the invisible hand of nature". Just as bower birds build halls of twigs and line them with flowers and pebbles, humans build societies and institutions. We are a social species, after all.

There is no such thing as an institution which works against evolutionary laws.

- S

At least you possess some reading comprehension. And to imagine what you'd be like without those damn institutions? Education is increasingly undervalued these days.

-Eran

Yes, sir, that's correct. Your third premise is wrong, invalidating your conclusion. May I suggest re-examining evolutionary theory with the help of an evolutionary biologist? It should go a long way in helping you understand the broad-scale implications of genetic propagation through populations, including the presence of large social structures and apparent altruism.

Alternatively, neurobiology can be very helpful in identifying behaviour motivations, and could give you a new perspective on why we act the way we do.

Best of luck, sir :)

What you talking about?


For all:
-Donate some ISK on my account with the reference "Less state, more invisible hand of nature."

1. You claim to be conservative yet graduated from the most liberal school in the country.
2. You claim to be from "flyover" country yet fail to realize very few people in such parts of the country are ethnic Gallentean, speak Gallentean, or have Gauron surnames like Roden.
3. You seem completely oblivious to actually Gallente culture despite claiming to try and preserve it.

And ontop of all that, you are literally wrong about everything.

How would you divide humans?
How does natural selection work in the State?

Oh dear. I'm not at all an evolutionary biologist, sir. I know some neuroscience and some genetics, but not so much as an expert in the field. I can try to explain what I know, but you should really discuss it with someone more educated ont he fine details.

Humans aren't really "divided" in the manner you suggest. As the estimable Dr Gridherst earlier mentioned, genetic differences between humans and our closest kin species is somewhere around 2%. This is still thousands of genes, and each one represents a different "division" that a person could fit into. What's more, genes interact with one another, and other nuclear components also contribute to morphology. Combinatorial analysis of all of these factors makes it pretty much impossible to produce a simple "racial categorization" of humans. It simply doesn't work that way.

To your second question; natural selection works in the State exactly as it does anywhere else, sir.

To the more general theme you seem to be driving for - if I may paraphrase, "Institutions that allow individuals to survive where they would have otherwise died are bad." Is this correct? Can we continue on this statement?

To this more general theme, I have a few points to consider

1) Survival is often about chance as much as it is about evolutionary pressure. By helping the individual whom chance betrays, that individual may survive to provide utility to their fellows, helping all improve and thrive. Their death weakens us all.

2) Oftentimes, beneficial morphologies can co-express with detrimental morphologies. A genetic structure which expresses itself as a certain brilliance for logical thinking may also express as a physiological flaw, for example. By saving these individuals from death we preserve their benefits, which help the community as a whole.

3) Individuals with detrimental genetic structures can also carry within them recessive beneficial structures. By keeping these structures within the gene pool of a society, that society maintains a healthy reserve of alternative morphologies that can be expressed in later generations.

4) Environments change. Maintaining a diverse gene pool, complete with genetic structures which are at present detrimental, ensure that the population maintains maximum adaptability in the face of dramatic change. Praise the Ancestor who carries that burden, for they may one day save your heritage.

Hopefully you can understand why we as a species have altruism within us, and why we should be overjoyed by this fact, and not fight against it.

Sure, sure, sure. I get your criticism was not point 1. By the way which means that the old question still stands: So how do you divide humans? How are they unequal, or lets say in which way?

Doesn't know anything about the Federation- is of Gauron descent and hosts a well regarded comedy news program. Seems legit.

So you're not going to clear up inconstancies with your identity? Very well. Guess its safe to assume you are a liar and a coward.

Oh and here's the best part, everything you cite in an attempt to prove yourself right actusally proves you wrong. You're either a really bad troll or a lying idiot.

Small question: Those the caldari non-entity caste enjoys help from institutions? Could a non-help mean that society is weakens itself. As you mention in point 1:..."individual may survive to provide utility to their fellows, helping all improve and thrive. Their death weakens us all."

I have to say Im not an expert in caldari society and its divisions. So I may get things wrong.

I'm glad to have been of help, though again - I'm not an evolutionary biologist. I do suggest you do your own research and talk to one!


It's alright to admit that you aren't an expert in something - it's a good thing to say when it's true! Your error is fairly straightforward - there is no 'non-entity caste' in the State. There are those who have decided to not participate in the State, however. Is that who you mean? They have chosen to not participate in the State, and therefore haven't got access to the institutions and services that the Deksam provide.

I'm really not sure how that applies to your topic, though, sir.

Have you not answer the topic already? Or lets say had it brought down to two points: Bad troll or a lying idiot.



Two stupid questions: Is it Garoun or Gauron? Whats the name of the thread: Equality of humans and the Federation? I really can not read it, my FTL neocom is cutting the upper-line.

In general, as I already told: "As long you are happy with my first point, you are the person which does not understand the Federation. And I have not seen any criticism from you about that point." A caldari would not have a problem with inequality, but a Fed-citizen should.



By the way, thanks for all the donations. As for now I have to go, so see you folks maybe one day again.

This guy's pissed off this many people in a couple hours? He's gonna go far.

This thread is going places and fast.

This guy's pissed off this many people in a couple hours? He's gonna go far.

Someone set this guy up on a date with Diana Kim.

I already answered your question. You are either a liar, a fool, or both.

It is Garoun. I apologize for the typo.

You're leaving? Dont come back until you've read a book.

I'm a firm believer that not everyone is created equal, however it does have to be said that you can't shape a tool for one job and have it also be the best at another job. My own genetic profile was fashioned for a particular role, my good suuolo Saya Ishikari's was fashioned for another.

I'm terrible at math puzzles. She couldn't open a jar of preserves if she was starving to death.

There are always things on high shelves. And the taller you get, the higher they build 'em.

Ladder. Flying drone. Mind control sunglasses for a certain smartass.

I shall fetch you one of our finest boxes to stand on, suuolo.

So I went to the corner store in Rens when I was updating some market orders and saw they have projectile ammunition for sale






Incredible!

-Eran

You are funny. By the way you still have not answer my question. Do you really think, that I take your "It's up to God to make those decisions" cop out as an answer. So again: Why are people unequal for you? In which why they are unequal for you? Do all people deserve rights for you? If the latter question is answer with: "Dude, listen man.... for me people have equal rights." then you should understand that for you humans are equal. And your criticism was point 1-3, but you were to stupid to see it.

So, I'm confused... Is this an attempt to apply Caldari values to the Federation? Or some attempt to claim Gallentean superiority through Caldari values? If the former... Good luck. If the latter, you may be missing a lot of key components.

Go back and re-read because I answered your question. People are unequal. Why? Because it's how it is. The universe is unequal in it's design. You're saying nothing noteable with that kind of comment.

I believe most people should have equal rights until they do something that would merit removal of rights. Criminals deserve less rights because of their history. Beyond that, rights should be equal. Just because someone has inequalities doesn't mean they should be restricted of their rights. There's simply no sound reasoning for that, but provide some if you can. My criticisms, as you stated earlier, were points 2, 3, & 4: not 1.

Mainly, my issue was with your notion that institutions who help people are a bad thing. I made examples of why this is a rediculous notion; examples you never addressed.

So then, how would you suggest care for infants, the sick, and the elderly, who could all be considered biologically unequal?

-Eran

You are really funny. So I shorten your lines: "people have equal rights, but some dont".... as for the point, why some people (ciminals, non-entiy-caste, etc...) should not have equal rights, I let you here with some other empyearns.... And you people can fight over it, who should have rights and who does/should not. Sadly I really have to go.


- P.S. Do not forget to donate some ISK on my account.

To make this fast, because I have some classes to go. First question: No. Second question: No. The question which was not ask: A attempt to show the deeper difference between the Fed and the State in their global/world/asthro-view: Equality vs inequality....Of course this point is just next to the usal empyearian mambo jambo, just to give some people food for thoughts.

I mean we all know, that the ethnic Gallente are most genetic diverse bloodline, and therefore are the most advance and adaptable of all bloodlines.

The Federation itself had become an enemy of the gallente people. Its welfare- and nanny-state had led to its current position.

So what can we do? First: (1) We have to accept, that humans are not equal. (2) That we all subject of evolution and natural selection. (3) All public institutions which are working against the invisible hand of nature, working in truth againts the self-interest of the nation. (4) The Federation works with its the nanny state institution against the average working man, against the ethnic gallente people.

*large blank space*

This god of yours sounds like a jerk.

Thanks a lot, jerk. I thought my datapad was broken again.

That hurts, Ms. Oniseki.

I don't think I'll be sleeping well tonightGǪ

-Eran

Here it should be said that I am not a racist. Im just a concerned citizen.

This god of yours sounds like a jerk.

The "god" of Naulius is glorified in the suffering of others, takes pleasure in the pain and suffering of his subjects, exalts one race over another, justifies the enslavement and oppression of other races in the name of that so-called supremacy. etc etc etc.

What is this new obsession with the word 'jerk'?

A Quafe can just floated by the window! Where is a long-suffering bureaucratic-yet-noble hero who might ensure it does not contain a cockroach and inform us of the results in longform triplicate!?

Nauppie sold him, I think.

The "god" of Naulius is glorified in the suffering of others, takes pleasure in the pain and suffering of his subjects

Hi,

Lately I have read some books

Here it should be said that I am not a racist. Im just a concerned citizen.

Someone set this guy up on a date with Diana Kim.

Sold him!? Well. I hope he got a good price. Long-suffering bureaucratic-yet-noble heroes for the most part do not piddle on priceless carpets or damage antediluvian armoires with constant pelvic grinding. Ahem.

Don't you give me those lupo-feline puppy eyes!

I don't understand this exchange; particularly, what I have to do with it.

To the OP ...... slither back under your rock.

You have delivered the stereotypical rant of the unwashed unskilled envious losers that dwell at the bottom of every society where merit and intelligence offer a path to success, "I'm not a racist, just a concerned citizen" (Who stands against everything his nation stands for.).

Please immigrate to amarr where your type of delusional filth passes for religious scripture. As the saying goes "Good riddance to bad rubbish!".

Such rot as that which Mr. Roden has set forth here is not representative of Gallentean society, the ideals of freedom we uphold, nor in the interest of the Federation as a whole.

While agree with your sentiment, I can do so freely without fear of reprisal, if only because I live on the opposite side of New Eden. As a Federation citizen, however, saying such things makes me fear for your safety, as Blaque's regime has a way of making disappear those who make a habit of actually exercising the rights that the Federation claims to uphold.

This lie is particularly laugh-worthy coming from an imperial. Exactly how much freedom of speech does the average Amarrian or Ammatar have when there's only one "official" news outlet and all speech is subject to review and/or censure by the Theology Council?

This lie is particularly laugh-worthy coming from an imperial. Exactly how much freedom of speech does the average Amarrian or Ammatar have when there's only one "official" news outlet and all speech is subject to review and/or censure by the Theology Council?

While I agree that the Empire practices extremely heavy censorship of speech and thought, I'd imagine capsuleers would be able to express themselves more than the average baseliner.