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Actaeon Versaea
Azaph Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:28:00 -
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I once read that a decent cruiser should be able to put out at least 300DPS, And have to agree, given that a BS fit can concevably put out 1000 DPS.
However, my Sacrilidge dose somewhat less than that, odd for a combat cruiser; So I checked my fitting:
5x HAM Launchers, Khanid Navy Issue If I'm feeling rich, otherwise Arbys. 1x Probe launcher, Core
3x Cap. Rechargers, Khanid Issue if feeling rich, otherwise anything I can get my hands on 1x 10MN Afterburner, Meta 4.
4x Assorted Khanid Navy Armour Harders, 1x Khanid Medium Reparir unit.
EFT suggests that this would only output ~270DPS with Full V skills.
What am I doing wrong, please?
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Fred P
Carebears of New Eden
3
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:35:00 -
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You are not using ballistic control units |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1623
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:57:00 -
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Fred P wrote:You are not using ballistic control units
This.
Also, t2 missiles add a lot. Where guns tend to prefer faction shortrange ammo over t2, missiles are often better with the high-damage t2 ammo, and beefing up on application skills/rigs/modules to compensate. This is particularly true with HAMs. Rage + Web is very effective. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Liam Inkuras
Mafia Redux Phobia.
836
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Posted - 2014.02.07 22:06:00 -
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Khanid Navy mods are so rarely seen that you'll pay exuberant prices for even the simplest mods. If you MUST use faction, use Imperial Navy/Caldari Navy or any of the other assorted common faction mods I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
507
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Posted - 2014.02.07 22:24:00 -
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having access to t2 and/or faction ammo should help a bunch. also some damage mods. and as said there are multiple factions that have similar (if not the same) stats so look for other options, as the volume (and thus price) will be more in your favor. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
13795
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Posted - 2014.02.07 22:42:00 -
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Fred P wrote:You are not using ballistic control units
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
13795
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Posted - 2014.02.07 22:43:00 -
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Liam Inkuras wrote:Khanid Navy mods are so rarely seen that you'll pay exuberant prices for even the simplest mods. If you MUST use faction, use Imperial Navy/Caldari Navy or any of the other assorted common faction mods
I'm inferring that the OP runs Khanid missions, for whatever reasons best known to himself.
1 Kings 12:11
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Odithia
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2014.02.07 23:27:00 -
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Never played much with a Sacrilege but try something like this. Your fit is ridiculously tanked. If not cap stable, replace a painter by cap recharger
[Sacrilege, HAM] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Armor Thermic Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II
10MN Afterburner II Stasis Webifier II Target Painter II Target Painter II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Core Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Hobgoblin II x5
591 theorical dps with all 5. Effective damage application is another story. |
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
182
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Posted - 2014.02.08 00:01:00 -
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Drop that rigor to T1, you are over in calibration.
Here is what an optimal HS mission sac looks like.
[Sacrilege, A sacrilege for Sacrilege]
Drone Damage Amplifier II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron 10MN Afterburner II
Small Tractor Beam II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Valkyrie II x5
841DPS from valks and rage HAMs cold, 300 HP/s angel permatank. Using the sac against angels is a very good choice, both due to the native T2 resists and the ability to apply pure HAM explo damage without range problems (since angels tend to get close fast). More here. |
Actaeon Versaea
Azaph Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:01:00 -
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I'm inferring that the OP runs Khanid missions, for whatever reasons best known to himself. [/quote]
Aye, I do the missions purley for the LP to fit the Sacrilidge. Otherwise It's lowsec combat sites. |
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Actaeon Versaea
Azaph Incorporated
19
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:09:00 -
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Thanks fo the help. So Far I've come up with this, not being willing to trade off too much tank (Damnation, One day), as I do alot of work against 0.1 sec BS rats
Khanid Ballistic Control System Khanid EM Hardener x2 Khanid Thermic Hardner Can change hardeners to suit enemy Khanid Repairer
Khanid Cap Recharger x2 Khanid 10MN AB. Khanid Status Web
Khanid HAMs x5, Caldari navy Chargers Scan Probe Launcher I
Missile Rate of Fire rig Missile Damage Rig.
~350 Paper DPS, up too ~425 If I convinced myself to use HAM IIs instead of Khanid ( I like glowing blue lights, and black things. So? )
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The Djego
Hellequin Inc. Mean Coalition
237
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:11:00 -
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[Sacrilege, New Setup 1] Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Medium Armor Repairer II
100MN Afterburner II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Hammerhead II x5
824 dps before imps and heat. I used something similar for plexing and low sec annos. Improve discharge rigging: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=246166&find=unread
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Actaeon Versaea
Azaph Incorporated
19
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Posted - 2014.02.08 06:12:00 -
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Odithia wrote: Your fit is ridiculously tanked. .
You should see my Damnation fit. it has 93%+ resists across the board.. I would try it at PvP if it wasn't valued at ~2.5 Billion ISK. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
2727
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Posted - 2014.02.08 06:55:00 -
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Actaeon Versaea wrote:Odithia wrote: Your fit is ridiculously tanked. .
You should see my Damnation fit. it has 93%+ resists across the board.. I would try it at PvP if it wasn't valued at ~2.5 Billion ISK. Is it an active tank or buffer?
Oh god. |
Gh0stBust3rs
Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
33
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Posted - 2014.02.08 08:00:00 -
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At one point in time i lived in khanid low sec and ran missions there. Basiscally after sitting on a few million lp i cashed it all out in implants and never looked back.
You look like you want to blitz them as quickly as possible. |
Rin Valador
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
67
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Posted - 2014.02.08 15:44:00 -
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Actaeon Versaea wrote:Quote: I'm inferring that the OP runs Khanid missions, for whatever reasons best known to himself. Aye, I do the missions purley for the LP to fit the Sacrilidge. Otherwise It's lowsec combat sites. Also in the vain hope there will one day be Khanid Faction ships.
your flying one right now. Just because it has the stamp t2 doesn't make it any less khanid.
I am flying a malediction!!!
/zooms away "There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10 |
Actaeon Versaea
Azaph Incorporated
20
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Posted - 2014.02.08 20:27:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Actaeon Versaea wrote:Odithia wrote: Your fit is ridiculously tanked. .
You should see my Damnation fit. it has 93%+ resists across the board.. I would try it at PvP if it wasn't valued at ~2.5 Billion ISK. Is it an active tank or buffer?
Active, with duel repairers. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
2729
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Posted - 2014.02.09 02:17:00 -
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That's pretty cool, does it work well for missions? I'm thinking of getting one for Angels, could you post your fit? Oh god. |
Actaeon Versaea
Azaph Incorporated
20
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Posted - 2014.02.09 03:12:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:That's pretty cool, does it work well for missions? I'm thinking of getting one for Angels, could you post your fit?
With the amount of thank it has, It can do any mission, I think - Not the fastest ship for them, with low DPS, but can sit under heavy fire forever....
Damnation, Bling Boat Warning: Low DPS[/b
High Your Favorite Heavy Assault Missile launcher Your Favorite Heavy Assault Missile launcher Your Favorite Heavy Assault Missile launcher Your Favorite Heavy Assault Missile launcher Your Favorite Heavy Assault Missile launcher Scan Probe Launcher Spare High Slot
Mid Khanid Navy Cap. Recharger Khanid Navy Cap. Recharger Khanid Navy Cap. Recharger Khanid Navy Cap. Recharger
Low Corpum A Type Medium Armour Repairer Corpum A Type Medium Armour Repairer Core X Type EM Hardener Core X Type Thermal Hardener Core X Type Kineric Hardener Core X Type Explosive Hardener
[b]Rigging Capacitor Control Circuit II Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Your Favourite Drones.
1115 Sustained DPS Tank 391 DPS without Drones/Implants, Cap Stable at 51% |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
2729
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Posted - 2014.02.09 07:23:00 -
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It's a bit out of my price range, but thanks for the fit lol. Oh god. |
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Aralieus
The Inf1dels Insidious Empire
200
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Posted - 2014.02.09 07:30:00 -
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Sacralige is a p awesome crusier with the right skills trained and properly fit. It can hit well above its class without breaking a sweat. Looking at your fit and your question I would highly suggest you train T2 launchers and put some damage mods or rigs on it. Or both if you really want to see explosions in a rapid order. I wouldn't suggest using it for PVE but if you're feeling adventurous then go for it but I zealot will outshine it in every way. Its a PVP monster through and through by its very nature and attributes. Either way its a blast to fly and well worth the SP to train HAC to V to truly get the most out of it. Oderint Dum Metuant |
Odithia
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2014.02.09 10:47:00 -
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Aralieus wrote:but I zealot will outshine it in every way Untill you get caught by an elite frigate with a web.
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