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Suspendatur
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Posted - 2006.04.06 04:23:00 -
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Hi All,
Just come onboard and have to say that Eve is amazing. Anyway, been doing alot of reading as I work on my new character and have finally decided on a style of character I plan to play.
However, the "end-game" ship I am working towards is leaving me a little confused.
I want to do high-end missions, get involved in 0.0 ratting and get involved in some solid pvp as well. If anything I see myself as someone who kills pirates. I love going after the ones who prey on others. :)
Anyway, I was looking at a very solid PvP ship that can also handle doing the above. Preferably flying the same config for most of the time. I was thinking of the Mini Rupture since it looks to be a very solid PvP ship, though recently I was thinking an armour tanking Tempest since I am addicted to Gunships (hence Mini race). Also I plan to become very active in Kali in the Factional Warfare.
Another big factor is I prefer to play solo for the large part, since I work full-time and live with my gf. So anything really has to take that into account.
So yes, end game ship taking the above into account would be excellent if some people can point me in the right direction. I dont know if the Tempest is "to expensive" for this style of game since I imagine I will loose ships like everyone. Also what are the larger ships like Carriers Dreadnoughts and Titans used for? What's the largest ship a solo-style player should really fly?
Thanks heaps for any responses. :)
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.04.06 04:42:00 -
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However, the "end-game" ship I am working towards is leaving me a little confused.
the short answer, is that this is so, because what your looking for, does not exist.
there *really* is no "end game" to speak of, each ship and such has its task that it excels at. personally I think if you can get up to being comfortable in your Battleship of choice, and then see how the mood takes you.
personally on this character I fly a dominix primarily, this suits me very well for Level 4 missions, and mining. I haven't worked up the wallet or nerve to feel comfortable deliberately PvPing in it yet... but I'm also experimenting some with an Interceptor, and AF, and doing some things occasionally with cruisers... theres no reason to limit yourself to one thing. I'm also tempted to try some other race cruisers or even a second racial BS. (apoc or raven..)
so my 2 cents is to get yourself into the BS of preference... get your skills to where you can fit it how you like, without major compromises, (if possible) and then see how it feels from there.
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OrangeAfroMan
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Posted - 2006.04.06 06:56:00 -
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I'd say get comfortable in a Rupture doing LvL 2 missions, or get a Cyclone and do lvl 3 missions for a while, until you have the skills/money for a Tempest, then you can do LvL 4s in that, and solo pvp in it (using autocannons + 2 large nosferatu most likely). The larger ships like Dreadnaughts, Carriers, and Titans are for big alliances, and you HAVE to have another person at least to jump to another system, because they dont use normal warp gates :)
Hope this helped! Enjoy EvE! :D
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Micia
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Posted - 2006.04.06 07:18:00 -
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Can't help with the PvP aspect, being  , but for working up through missions...
L2 missions are typically Cruiser level. Rupture is a fine ship for this, but even the lowly Scythe is capable of handling almost anything an L2 can toss at you. The Scythe is much less expensive than a Rupture, and is a good starting Cruiser. It also has a neat bonus for mining, letting it be used double-duty when trying to save up ISK in any fashion. I know you didn't mention mining at all in your post... just sayin'. 
For L3's, the Cyclone (mentioned) is great. There are some missions that I found myself calling for backup on, but that's probably due to my relatively low combat skills. (Anyways, company is always fun)
Since you are looking to be playing solo, it seems, you'd be good to spend a bit of time learning to fly an Industrial of some kind... low-level Wreathe or Hoarder, at least. Shouldn't take long, and the ability to pack up your stuff and move is very handy.
Good luck on figuring out what the "end game" is. Let me know when you find it. 
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Jaketh Ivanes
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Posted - 2006.04.06 07:34:00 -
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An "end game" ship. Think that would be a fast battleship, armed with high-tracking guns and an evil tank. Could be a tempest with 220mm AC's. Those should be able to handle frigs, cruisers and BS (if given enough time).
There will be no "end game" ship in PvP. In PvE the battleships excells in the "end game" missions (lvl 4).
I know of an "old" player, who is devoted to frigates/interceptors in battle, because he find those the most fun, guess he is a bit of a speed junki .
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.06 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: OrangeAfroMan
I'd say get comfortable in a Rupture doing LvL 2 missions, or get a Cyclone and do lvl 3 missions for a while, until you have the skills/money for a Tempest, then you can do LvL 4s in that, and solo pvp in it (using autocannons + 2 large nosferatu most likely). The larger ships like Dreadnaughts, Carriers, and Titans are for big alliances, and you HAVE to have another person at least to jump to another system, because they dont use normal warp gates :)
Hope this helped! Enjoy EvE! :D
You don't HAVE to have another person, but you do need a cyno alt in a hauler. Carriers work perfectly fine with just your main and your alt. You can fit a refueling hauler in your ship bay, as well as a couple of inties and a cov ops. Have the alt trained for recons, as well as level 5 cyno field theory, a falcon only uses 50 a pop for the cyno and you can refuel yourself using the hauler.
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Salmod
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Posted - 2006.04.06 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Suspendatur
Preferably flying the same config for most of the time.
You will never fly the same setup for PvP and PvE I'm afraid....
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Sarmaul 2
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Posted - 2006.04.06 11:21:00 -
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There is only one type of ship in eve that might be considered end-game and that's a titan, and you need the support of an entire alliance to build and operate one.
The one good thing about EVE is that the only end game is when you have every skill trained to level 5. And what reward do you get at the end of it? No one will ever know, as the world would have probably blown itself up before someone achieves that on TQ.
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Spike Larosse
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Posted - 2006.04.06 11:31:00 -
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Well, since endgame and EVE doesn't really sound natural together, I think it is better to set up a few sub-goals and work for them. I personally really like cruisers for PvP currently. They're cheap enough to not be an issue to replace, while able to kill all kinds of ships (frigs, cruisers, battlecruisers, afs, destroyers, yes, even interceptors) , if fitted correctly. The rupture is a good one, and the Gallente crusiers are great too, but you need drone skills ot make those work right.
As for battleships, I don't think there is one as versatile as the Dominix, but tbh I have only experience with the Gallente ones.
Tempest sure looks interesting as a step up from the rupture.
The reason I'm sceptical towards the Cyclone, is that it is a shield tanking ship inbetween a bunch of armor tanking minmatar ships, and it might feel like a waste of SP to have to train up those skills instead of focusing on armor tanks. Specializaiton is a great way to quickly catch up with older chars...
As someone pointed out, you can't hope to use the same configuration/fitting on a ship always.. not if you expect to perform different tasks with it. There's much to be gained from adapting your ship to what you want to do with it.
Good Luck out there....
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.06 11:43:00 -
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first: eve has no endgame
second: after a while (a year?) you will think nothing of losing the odd tempest
solo players can do well in BSs at biggest, but would probably be better in HACs/CBCs. Solo players shouldn't look into capital due to the jumpdrive needs.
As for going after pirates: they WILL be better PvPers than you for a while at least, you might be better off learning to PvP against people who aren't much better than you or friends - you will learn more than you would either getting insta-ganked by pies or blobbing them to death.
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Spike Larosse
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Posted - 2006.04.06 16:27:00 -
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Or find a Corp with an anti pirate approach that can teach you how to do it. 
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.06 16:38:00 -
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I have 17.5b in assets at last count.
I fly a Caracal.
To each his own--there is no end game ship in EVE!
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.04.06 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
Originally by: OrangeAfroMan
I'd say get comfortable in a Rupture doing LvL 2 missions, or get a Cyclone and do lvl 3 missions for a while, until you have the skills/money for a Tempest, then you can do LvL 4s in that, and solo pvp in it (using autocannons + 2 large nosferatu most likely). The larger ships like Dreadnaughts, Carriers, and Titans are for big alliances, and you HAVE to have another person at least to jump to another system, because they dont use normal warp gates :)
Hope this helped! Enjoy EvE! :D
You don't HAVE to have another person, but you do need a cyno alt in a hauler. Carriers work perfectly fine with just your main and your alt. You can fit a refueling hauler in your ship bay, as well as a couple of inties and a cov ops. Have the alt trained for recons, as well as level 5 cyno field theory, a falcon only uses 50 a pop for the cyno and you can refuel yourself using the hauler.
I got screenshots of you Mining in your carfrier!
also you NPC in it too!
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.04.06 16:55:00 -
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It's more a matter of favorite ship class.
I prefer battleships, myself (although I've been known to jump into interceptors and the occasional moa), which tends to be tough on my wallet (I'm dirt poor).
I guess you could say that capital ships are "end game", but I don't think it is in the same way you mean it. Those are for alliance fleets operations or really big/powerful corporations who are fighting at a different level. They won't be used by solo players (unless they are dumb) for mining or mission running, or even small-scale PVP.
Some players specialize in the smaller shipclasses, training skills specifically aimed at those classes, and using implants that are designed to help them for this (speed implants, etc). It's all a matter of style.
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Leon 026
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Posted - 2006.04.06 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Leon 026 on 06/04/2006 16:57:16
My "end-game" ship will probably be a frigate, i dont fly anything else 
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Waragha
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Posted - 2006.04.06 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Leon 026
Edited by: Leon 026 on 06/04/2006 16:57:16
My "end-game" ship will probably be a frigate, i dont fly anything else
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.06 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
I have 17.5b in assets at last count.
I fly a Caracal.
To each his own--there is no end game ship in EVE!
yeah but its a bastard of a caracal
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.04.06 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
An "end game" ship. Think that would be a fast battleship, armed with high-tracking guns and an evil tank. Could be a tempest with 220mm AC's. Those should be able to handle frigs, cruisers and BS (if given enough time).
Now I dont fly minie ships as I am allergic to duct tape buuuut... dont you think this set up will face serious DPS issues??? 
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Reto
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Posted - 2006.04.06 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Suspendatur
However, the "end-game" ship I am working towards is leaving me a little confused.
the ultimate "end-game" ship is also known as pod.
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Shar Gath
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Shar Gath on 06/04/2006 20:20:35
Edited by: Shar Gath on 06/04/2006 20:19:59
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Phish1
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Posted - 2006.04.06 23:51:00 -
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heh, my biggest ship ATM is a rupture, and that only gets dusted down every few weeks, gimme a frig anyday!
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Missile Spammer
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Posted - 2006.04.06 23:59:00 -
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funny 'endgame' bhaalgorn :P
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.07 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: Dark Shikari
I have 17.5b in assets at last count.
I fly a Caracal.
To each his own--there is no end game ship in EVE!
yeah but its a bastard of a caracal
QFT tbh 
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Phish1
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Posted - 2006.04.07 00:02:00 -
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thats a ship!
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Darpz
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Posted - 2006.04.07 02:08:00 -
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I have a few billion in assets and can fly pretty much any caldari or galente ship well and yet I still spend most of my time in a ishkur or brutix, you'll find a ship you like and stay in it alot, for me I hate BS they are slow and a pain in the but to solo in, although a domi makes for a cheap suicide platform
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Skaaltel
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Posted - 2006.04.07 08:21:00 -
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"I have 17.5b in assets at last count.
I fly a Caracal."
QFT
I can fly afs and BCs.. and prefer a simple vexor for combat. It's a 6 million isk ship so if I lose one who cares? I blew up a hac with it- I think it's paid for itself 30 times over now :D
Battleships and hacs are too pricey for my pvp. You're bound to lose one (or several) and that ain't too much fun. PVE a battleship is the cat's meow.
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Darpz
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:23:00 -
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the thing is with BS prices they way they are a tier 1 BS only costs about 15M or so to lose with insurance factored in. just throw some tech 1 mods on it and you'll still be under 20M much less than a af. granted there not the funnest ships to fly but they are by no means expensive
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