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Ralen Zateki
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:23:00 -
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Hai!
So...I'm a new player. Less than a week. (Can't believe I didn't get into this a long time ago... )
I thought I'd share a couple of thoughts on the bantering about the game's "accessibility" ... from a new player perspective.
Disclaimers first, disclosure of bias --->
1. Only thing close to the experience I'm having getting into this game was when I discovered Morrowind years ago. The scope of that game blew me away and EVE is simply 10x greater than that experience. So... best game evah type feelings going on here.
2. I'm a complexity junkie and I don't mind grinding, which likely explains why I'm loving this experience.
Now... onto my thoughts --->
1. Language. I'm not sure what "accessibility" or "before you can do anything" really means. Probably means different things to different people. But, in general, I don't think I've experienced either. I mean, ya, I get it. It'll be a long time before I'm a veteran pilot who can hold his own in low or null sec. But to say that the game isn't "accessible" or there's "nothing to do" until then is a lot of bull. So, I think part of the issue with all the noise about it is just the poor use of overly generalized terms.
2. With that said, there's plenty for a noob like me to do. I'm enjoying the hell out of messing with my first destroyer fit, taking detailed notes and mapping out a path toward my first cruiser. Making my first mining ventures more efficient. Laying the foundation for what I hope in the future becomes a very effective Mining Corporation. There's so much to do... and so much to look forward too. And that's the rub... the complexity and the grind provide so much anticipation... and it doesn't appear that that's going away anytime soon.
3. The tutorial is very well done. From what I'm gathering, it's been developing over the years. But investing the time in doing the tutorial and the Sisters of EVE epic is proving to set me up quite nicely with a wide range of the basics. And there's so much still to do... did I mention that? But the point here is that I found the tutorial to be incredibly useful for introducing me to the core game concepts... so... erm... I don't feel at all like I've been left without any direction (aside from a few minor things.. but I'm learning that learning is very much a part of the EVE experience... another thing I really enjoy.)
4. Last... I guess many peeps that complain are just looking to jump into big rigs and fly around shoosting up peeps. And while I'm sure that's going to be fun... there's just so much more to this game. It really is damn close to a complete package... diplomacy, trade, business, warfare, empire building.... all marvelously created and driven by social skills and social interaction. It's the complexity and patience required that create the tension and the staying power. IMHO.
So... perhaps that's not your typical sensation junkie gamer cup o' tea. But the robustness of the community and the mind boggling depth of this gem depend on the grind, and the complexity, and the depth. I hope CCP never ever change that.
Now back to mining!!!
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Yarda Black
Epidemic. Spaceship Samurai
27
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:27:00 -
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Welcome to EVE m8! |

djentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc.
50
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:34:00 -
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Welcome to EVE!
Only thing I would tell you - you are going to hear a bunch of high sec carebears tell you that you "can't" go into low or null sec until you have specific skills or a specific ship. Ignore them. These are the people who have been hugging high-sec all their lives and are always "almost" ready once they get that "one more skill" or that "one more ship" - then after they get it, there will be just "one more thing" they need to get - repeat until death due to boredom.
I've personally witnessed accounts less then eight hours old flying with and taking part in some epic fun pew pew space battles against other players.
So again, welcome - and my best piece of advice - don't believe anyone when they tell you how to play EVE. Most of them are too cookie cutter to try anything new or original, or have been simply fed the same line by someone else and will pass it on to the next generation of newbie. Hell, I know players who in their entire eve career have never even come up with a original fitting for a ship - they just ask others what the "Best" fitting is, and use that every single time they fly that kind of ship. Then they will cry when they are countered easy by other cookie cutter fits designed to counter the original cookie cutter fit. Think outside the box, man! |

Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
198
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:34:00 -
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Excellent post Ralen. Please bookmark this post of yours for later. The first time you get frustrated, or feel like you were squashed unfairly and the first time you get suicide ganked please return to this post and read it.
You will get ganked while mining. You will get utterly destroyed before you can react at some point while in a combat ship. You will die in a fireball while stuck on a space rock to some laughable easy NPC rats. You may even get scammed.
When it happens, roll with it. Do not get discouraged, just get even. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
274
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:51:00 -
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Notorious Fellon wrote:Excellent post Ralen. Please bookmark this post of yours for later. The first time you get frustrated, or feel like you were squashed unfairly and the first time you get suicide ganked please return to this post and read it.
You will get ganked while mining. You will get utterly destroyed before you can react at some point while in a combat ship. You will die in a fireball while stuck on a space rock to some laughable easy NPC rats. You may even get scammed.
When it happens, roll with it. Do not get discouraged, just get even.
You will also probably also lose a ship eventually to a disconnect and unless the isssue was CCPs fault they will not reimburse. Also expect at some point to misclick and accidently buy or sell something at a stupid price.
Just get out there and do stuff and do not rush madly to get a BS, the most fun in the game is usually had in Assault Frigs and bombers and covops frigates.
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Ralen Zateki
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:52:00 -
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djentropy Ovaert wrote:Welcome to EVE!
Only thing I would tell you - you are going to hear a bunch of high sec carebears tell you that you "can't" go into low or null sec until you have specific skills or a specific ship. Ignore them. These are the people who have been hugging high-sec all their lives and are always "almost" ready once they get that "one more skill" or that "one more ship" - then after they get it, there will be just "one more thing" they need to get - repeat until death due to boredom.
I've personally witnessed accounts less then eight hours old flying with and taking part in some epic fun pew pew space battles against other players.
So again, welcome - and my best piece of advice - don't believe anyone when they tell you how to play EVE. Most of them are too cookie cutter to try anything new or original, or have been simply fed the same line by someone else and will pass it on to the next generation of newbie. Hell, I know players who in their entire eve career have never even come up with a original fitting for a ship - they just ask others what the "Best" fitting is, and use that every single time they fly that kind of ship. Then they will cry when they are countered easy by other cookie cutter fits designed to counter the original cookie cutter fit. Think outside the box, man!
Thanks all.
Especially this post ^ . I've got a buddy from another game I play that introduced me to EVE (he doesn't play much anymore.) The other night he transferred $20 mil worth of ISK into my account. I didn't like it. I know I know but I'm savoring the build up here. (don't get me wrong.... I didn't give it back... I bought a few implants instead.) He wanted me to buy a cruiser... but damnit... I'm gonna earn my first Cruiser.
And ya... aside from direct "how to" advice on interfaces and such... I'm savoring learning the game mechanics and trying to learn/ move on my own in a direction toward goals. Little things.... like placing an afterburner on my big slow-ass Sigil so that I can pick up my packs faster.... etc. etc.
Originality absolutely! I find myself thinking "I want to do xx" and then scrounging through modules and skills to understand what I'm gonna need to do to pull it off. (Like building out a Venture to make fast risky excursions into Low Sec and Null Sec.) |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1065
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:57:00 -
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It's great to see posts like this. I think too often after the perception of this games grand scale wears off, most of us forget about how awesome this game really is. We spend most of our time bithcing about this or ranting about that and forget sometimes to stop and say, "This **** is ******* AWESOME!!"
Welcome to Eve Brother! Have fun! "You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game! |

Ralen Zateki
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:57:00 -
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Wanted to also add that this is the first game I've ever decided to play on a dual monitor set up. And the moment I sort of stumbled onto that I thought my head was going to esplode.  |

Ace Echo
The Shadow Raiders Fleet Coordination Coalition
56
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:07:00 -
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We keep reading about how eve is unfriendly to n00bs, about how the game needs to be more accessible, about blah tutorial is bad, blah other thing that deters n00bs, but in reality, I think the game is fine. Eve just doesn't have any more smart, awesome people like OP joining the game - most new subs are the idiots and league veterans we have to attempt to cater to if CCP wants their $$.
Every once in a golden while, we'll find a player that actually conforms to Eve's original demographic and likes the game as it is. We need more of these guys.
Welcome to eve, OP. You'll do well here. |

Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited
822
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Posted - 2014.02.10 17:25:00 -
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Like all the rest, I want to welcome you to the game.
If you need help/advise feel free to join The Angel Project channel in game, always folks to ask questions of, there.
yes, bad things will happen to you yes there will be losses and days where you log off in a rage yes, there are jerks in the game
but
yes, it is huge yes there are tons of experiences to be had yes the real adventure is when you go out of your comfort zone
there are tons of supports in the form of blogs, podcasts, websites, corps that will train you and corps that will teach you lessons about who you can trust (clue, you never pay to join a corp)
fly it like you won it
because in playing, you have
m Mike Azariah-á CSM8 |

Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
439
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Posted - 2014.02.10 17:51:00 -
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I had similar feelings when I started Eve, and after 6 years there are aspects of the game that I still haven't explored and am dying to find the time to do so. Occasionally I come across a button, clicking which opens up a new vista, and I love this aspect of (the complexity) of Eve.
Welcome. I think you'll have fun! Any colour you like. |

Victor Dathar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
279
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Posted - 2014.02.10 17:54:00 -
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Cute newbie, sending isk. ^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7 |

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
637
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:06:00 -
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Welcome to EVE Ralen. +1 for a really good OP. Remove insurance. |

Douglas Nolm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:27:00 -
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I echo the OP's comments, I've been playing for a couple of weeks now, but only at weekend because I work away from home, and I love it! The sheer scale is awesome, but like anything that big, I feel I can take it one bit at a time. I really like the way that you can do just about whatever you wish, I can see I'll be here a long time! |

Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
279
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:27:00 -
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dis guy is doin it rite
+1 |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
10133
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:29:00 -
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djentropy Ovaert wrote:Only thing I would tell you - you are going to hear a bunch of high sec carebears tell you that you "can't" go into low or null sec until you have specific skills or a specific ship. Ignore them. These are the people who have been hugging high-sec all their lives and are always "almost" ready once they get that "one more skill" or that "one more ship" - then after they get it, there will be just "one more thing" they need to get - repeat until death due to boredom.
Quoted because it just cant be said enough. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1403
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:32:00 -
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Well, welcome to Eve :)
Posts like yours are really enjoyable to read because you show understanding that nothing happens instantly and a lot depends on your own initiative not on what devs implemented for you. Devs always say they just give us tools and we can build something beautiful with them or make other people miserable by touching their pixels in wrong way.
Few things from me as general advice:
- There is no such thing as playing Eve wrong if you enjoy what you are doing. That has not to be confused with being stupid, lazy and full of entitlement. In Eve you can do whatever you want but same applies to other people and they may want to explode you or scam you or exploit you in some way. Until it is all within TOS/EULA limits everything if fair game.
- There is no such thing as fair game. There is no such thing as space honor or guaranteed 1v1, etc. As one Tusker once said "E-honor is self imposed limitation". You can be gentle, honorable and helpful but do not be naive and gullible to think everybody will be the same to you.
- There is no such thing as being ready for low, null or anything else. If you think you are ready just make that move and see what will happen. And honestly, there is no amount of duels in hisec that can prepare you for being ganked by total stranger. And it applies to every space even hisec (and if you are mining please read on gankers, New Order dudes and such stuff).
- For the love of God when you decide to leave hisec, even for short trip google "how to survive in lowsec" and read and/or watch guides and tutorials so you will know how to theoretically avoid fights if you don't want to engage in them. Things can and probably will go wrong but maybe at least somebody like me will have to put some effort into finding you in space.
And last but not least do not let anybody tell you how you should play Eve. What one finds boring others find relaxing, what one finds difficult others find intriguing. Play as you like but listen to advice when somebody offers one because they may already went through some growing pains and can help you get better results faster.
Have fun and remember: ships are just tools, they will explode and you should take every explosion as a learning experience not the end of the world. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Laura Gallardo
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:37:00 -
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As a new player myself, i totally agree with you.
Right now, i am more time reading about Eve, than playing Eve myself (time constraints aswell), but i do it for pleasure, not as a burden. |

Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT Brothers Of The Dark Sun
134
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:52:00 -
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Welcome to EVE!! I'm glad you are finding it enjoyable. I hope you continue to do so. EVE is all the things you said and much much more listen to the advice of others but make your own decisions on what to follow. The only thing limiting you in EVE is your own imagination and a few game mechanics. Enjoy and spread that enthusiasm to other new players, perhaps form a corp...when your ready of course. |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1145
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:53:00 -
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Ralen Zateki wrote:Now back to mining!!! 
Was so happy to welcome you new bro.. then that last line... I guess it will be the other kind of welcome then. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1066
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:54:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:djentropy Ovaert wrote:Only thing I would tell you - you are going to hear a bunch of high sec carebears tell you that you "can't" go into low or null sec until you have specific skills or a specific ship. Ignore them. These are the people who have been hugging high-sec all their lives and are always "almost" ready once they get that "one more skill" or that "one more ship" - then after they get it, there will be just "one more thing" they need to get - repeat until death due to boredom.
Quoted because it just cant be said enough.
I think it's fine to stay in HighSec. But don't ever come to the forums demanding changes to how "safe" it is.
Ever.
"You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game! |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
10133
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:27:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:I think it's fine to stay in HighSec. But don't ever come to the forums demanding changes to how "safe" it is.
Are you talking about the rampant highsec should equal safesec entitlement threads..or the highsec is too safe, nerf highsec threads?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Aurix Kane
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:40:00 -
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Ok, another n00b here. I completely agree with the OP. I am having the time of my life with EVE.
Funny story as to how I just now started playing. I usually fly flight-sims or the like, and I've got a flight controller setup for this. I just had a vasectomy (yup, got snipped), and I couldn't sit in my chair and hold my joystick (pun intended) comfortably. I needed to find a mouse-only game until I healed from my self-inflicted wounds.
So I finally decided to try EVE. It's all I've been doing since...paid for a six-month subscription. Still in High-Sec, but I love the idea that I COULD get ganked for no reason. Makes it more meaningful and intense. Once I figure out which of the many career paths to choose from, I'll apply for a Corp.
I might be divorced soon, though. :) |

Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
200
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:44:00 -
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Aurix Kane wrote:... I might be divorced soon, though. :)
May be best to prepare for the inevitable then. Get the current wife hooked on the game too. That way, when your divorce hits, you can use locator agents to find her and apply the appropriate gank and scam methods. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
2394
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:56:00 -
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Welcome to the game.
The only thing I'd like to add on top of everyone else is this.
Don't take losses personally. The game is a lot more fun if you aren't worried about losing whatever it is you're flying. It's a good idea to not fly anything you can't replace 3 times over. Keep it cheap, and you can afford more of it.
Other than that, have fun.... mining... yeah. Anyway, best of luck. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1066
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:30:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:I think it's fine to stay in HighSec. But don't ever come to the forums demanding changes to how "safe" it is.
Are you talking about the rampant highsec should equal safesec entitlement threads..or the highsec is too safe, nerf highsec threads?
Yes.
"You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game! |

Incindir Mauser
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
356
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Posted - 2014.02.10 22:32:00 -
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Welcome to New Eden.
I highly reccomend leaving that NPC corporation as soon as possible. You may want to look in to Red Versus Blue, Eve University, Brave Newbies, or a nullsec corporation that runs a dedicated newbie program.
What is going to carry you through the years is the relationships you develop with other players around you.
Also, quick tips to help you through your first months.
Spend one of your neural remaps to a Intellect/Perception layout. This will help you with the broad skill training you are going to be doing.
If a skill has a x1 multiplier, train it to 5 immediately. Otherwise train to 4.
Save up some ISK to get yourself a jumpclone with +4 attribute implants for skill training for when you need to step away from the game for a while. |

Just Trent
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.10 22:44:00 -
[28] - Quote
Schmata Bastanold wrote:Well, welcome to Eve :)
Posts like yours are really enjoyable to read because you show understanding that nothing happens instantly and a lot depends on your own initiative not on what devs implemented for you. Devs always say they just give us tools and we can build something beautiful with them or make other people miserable by touching their pixels in wrong way.
Few things from me as general advice:
- There is no such thing as playing Eve wrong if you enjoy what you are doing. That has not to be confused with being stupid, lazy and full of entitlement. In Eve you can do whatever you want but same applies to other people and they may want to explode you or scam you or exploit you in some way. Until it is all within TOS/EULA limits everything if fair game.
- There is no such thing as fair game. There is no such thing as space honor or guaranteed 1v1, etc. As one Tusker once said "E-honor is self imposed limitation". You can be gentle, honorable and helpful but do not be naive and gullible to think everybody will be the same to you.
- There is no such thing as being ready for low, null or anything else. If you think you are ready just make that move and see what will happen. And honestly, there is no amount of duels in hisec that can prepare you for being ganked by total stranger. And it applies to every space even hisec (and if you are mining please read on gankers, New Order dudes and such stuff).
- For the love of God when you decide to leave hisec, even for short trip google "how to survive in lowsec" and read and/or watch guides and tutorials so you will know how to theoretically avoid fights if you don't want to engage in them. Things can and probably will go wrong but maybe at least somebody like me will have to put some effort into finding you in space.
And last but not least do not let anybody tell you how you should play Eve. What one finds boring others find relaxing, what one finds difficult others find intriguing. Play as you like but listen to advice when somebody offers one because they may already went through some growing pains and can help you get better results faster.
Have fun and remember: ships are just tools, they will explode and you should take every explosion as a learning experience not the end of the world.
this remember EVE is what YOU make it, welcome to the game mate
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Herzyr
Oath of the Forsaken
0
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:09:00 -
[29] - Quote
Truth be told, tutorials are helpful compared to how they were a couple of years ago but they still need a lot of work in the department of ''getting it'' into newbies. Feels like spreadsheets in space or spreadsheets with a galaxy screensaver 
I joined EvE around October last year, while learning everything was daunting and infuriating at best, You will find that with patience everything will just click in and then you will start to enjoy EvE for what it is, The ''self''? imposed slogan of most complicated MMORPG in the market is very true, EvE weeds out the ''weak'' crowd and only the thick skinned ones will stay and enjoy the deep experience of EvE.
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1156
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:13:00 -
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Great post OP, glad to see there are still some people left Eve can awe a little with it's complexity. You seem to fit the profile for this niche spaceships game nicely, MMO's like this have been going out of fashion and Eve is one of the few bastions of semi-sandboxing around. You are right that you will not become a super-pirate right away, but it's a knowledge hurdle and not about SP per se. Inform yourself well, and even you can make solo kills that go into the hundreds of millions within your first week. It's all about knowing what to engage where and when.
Other posters are correct about that NPC corp (leave it as soon as you are able), teaming up with others will smooth the learning curve considerably. There are many player corps that entirely revolve around PVP training, some even give open classes. That being said, going at it sith a pickaxe solo at the start can be a lot of fun too, if not somewhat exhausting. It will turn Eve into the Dark Souls of MMO's. When you get tired of rummaging through your bitbox to see if you can pull off something, people remain your best source of (mis)information and guidance. I've played for 2-3 years and still can't remember what each ship does!  |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2439
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Posted - 2014.02.11 03:25:00 -
[31] - Quote
i like this guy |

Felicity Love
Whore and Peace Forsaken Asylum
1520
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Posted - 2014.02.11 03:28:00 -
[32] - Quote
I like to think all new players are "accessible"... where is it you're mining again ? 
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
703
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Posted - 2014.02.11 03:31:00 -
[33] - Quote
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:djentropy Ovaert wrote:Only thing I would tell you - you are going to hear a bunch of high sec carebears tell you that you "can't" go into low or null sec until you have specific skills or a specific ship. Ignore them. These are the people who have been hugging high-sec all their lives and are always "almost" ready once they get that "one more skill" or that "one more ship" - then after they get it, there will be just "one more thing" they need to get - repeat until death due to boredom.
Quoted because it just cant be said enough.
went to low at 3 weeks and moved to null at 5. i was too cautious. within days of moving to null i was involved in huge battles involving hundreds of pilots. i don't even understand why people resist taking part in the fun aspects of the game. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |

Ai Shun
1041
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Posted - 2014.02.11 04:04:00 -
[34] - Quote
First up, welcome!
Ralen Zateki wrote:I mean, ya, I get it. It'll be a long time before I'm a veteran pilot who can hold his own in low or null sec.
I'm not 100% convinced by this. Yes, if you're just starting out in a Rookie ship your contribution in those areas will be low. But if you pick a lower class of ship (Frigate, etc.) and start training you can start helping out immediately. (Noted that you say "hold his own" ... ) Character age is not that big a barrier to being a part of lowsec. (My foray into null was very limited)
Ralen Zateki wrote:The tutorial is very well done. From what I'm gathering, it's been developing over the years. But investing the time in doing the tutorial and the Sisters of EVE epic is proving to set me up quite nicely with a wide range of the basics.
Agreed. Circumstances enforced a break from the game a while ago and a good friend twisted my arm to come back and play again. I started a new character and started working my way through the tutorials and they're really nicely done and explain the core functionality well.
Amusingly, at the same time there was somebody who must have decided to skip them all. As I was working through the tutorials I could see his questions being answered by Aura.
Ralen Zateki wrote:Now back to mining!!! 
Don't burn out doing just that, please.
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Your Dad Naked
State War Academy Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2014.02.11 04:39:00 -
[35] - Quote
djentropy Ovaert wrote:Welcome to EVE!
Only thing I would tell you - you are going to hear a bunch of high sec carebears tell you that you "can't" go into low or null sec until you have specific skills or a specific ship. Ignore them. These are the people who have been hugging high-sec all their lives and are always "almost" ready once they get that "one more skill" or that "one more ship" - then after they get it, there will be just "one more thing" they need to get - repeat until death due to boredom. LMAO! That is so spot on. I am very guilty of this. Although at least in my case, I'm micromanaging a high-sec empire that pulls in as much profit as most small alliances.
OP, follow this man's words. PVP the earlier the better. It's like haircuts. Once you wait too long, it becomes hard to accept doing it.
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Sibyyl
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.11 05:30:00 -
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Love this post. I'm new to EVE (and gaming) as well. I really wanted to play multi-player WC: Privateer and I got my wish! It's kind of weird that the dense reading inside the game is a welcome change to the dense reading I do for my classes.
I've had a few heart pounding moments now, killed in my starter ship, jumped through a couple of wormholes into uncharted space (I wish I knew about sensors), and blasting through 0.0 in a tin can (my Condor). I do some mining in 0.4 occasionally to get some schoolwork done and pour through ISIS.
Everyone has been so helpful/psychotic in the game. There's really no middle ground.. |

Ilyana Nehla
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.02.11 12:55:00 -
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Welcome OP.
Play EVE like you want. Nobody can tell you what and how to do something here. Its your choice and you can form eve to your likings (Within certain boundaries though ;) )
Have fun and stay strong. You WILL eventually lose your ship. unless you just park it in a High Sec station you will lose it...eventually. When is up to you :)
Sigh. Sometimes I miss the times when EVE was all new to me and everytime I saw something new I was like ""whoa" :O" .... sweet times :P
Cheers |

Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
172
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:07:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:djentropy Ovaert wrote:Only thing I would tell you - you are going to hear a bunch of high sec carebears tell you that you "can't" go into low or null sec until you have specific skills or a specific ship. Ignore them. These are the people who have been hugging high-sec all their lives and are always "almost" ready once they get that "one more skill" or that "one more ship" - then after they get it, there will be just "one more thing" they need to get - repeat until death due to boredom.
Quoted because it just cant be said enough.
Quting the Quote because of thruth. Get out of high, the sooner the better. |

Enraku Reynolt
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:30:00 -
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djentropy Ovaert wrote:Welcome to EVE!
Only thing I would tell you - you are going to hear a bunch of high sec carebears tell you that you "can't" go into low or null sec until you have specific skills or a specific ship. Ignore them. These are the people who have been hugging high-sec all their lives and are always "almost" ready once they get that "one more skill" or that "one more ship" - then after they get it, there will be just "one more thing" they need to get - repeat until death due to boredom.
I've personally witnessed accounts less then eight hours old flying with and taking part in some epic fun pew pew space battles against other players.
So again, welcome - and my best piece of advice - don't believe anyone when they tell you how to play EVE. Most of them are too cookie cutter to try anything new or original, or have been simply fed the same line by someone else and will pass it on to the next generation of newbie. Hell, I know players who in their entire eve career have never even come up with a original fitting for a ship - they just ask others what the "Best" fitting is, and use that every single time they fly that kind of ship. Then they will cry when they are countered easy by other cookie cutter fits designed to counter the original cookie cutter fit. Think outside the box, man!
Play style dependant
You want pvp YA. Hit low/null and hope you can get some allies Otherwise depending on what your plans are, rushing off won't be profitable |

Mythrandier
Corporate Scum Northern Associates.
320
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:58:00 -
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Ralen Zateki wrote:
And ya... aside from direct "how to" advice on interfaces and such... I'm savoring learning the game mechanics and trying to learn/ move on my own in a direction toward goals. Little things.... like placing an afterburner on my big slow-ass Sigil so that I can pick up my packs faster.... etc. etc.
You will do well here my friend.
Welcome to EvE  "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |

Vedor Teo
House of Nim-Lhach Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers
3
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:16:00 -
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Ralen Zateki wrote:Now back to mining!!! 
Welcome to World of Mining...
No, I mean
Welcome to Eve! |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
2318
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Posted - 2014.02.11 23:54:00 -
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Dev alt is obvious. Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |

Muestereate
Minions LLC
169
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Posted - 2014.02.12 00:15:00 -
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oh crap they are all running locator agents on you so they can kill you in your noob ship with a dreadnut. Stay out of low sec, get a retriever, buy a copy of excel and skill books and learn how to set skills and develop skill plans and ship fittings. Park at a trade hub so you don't have to fly for parts pickup, buy some plexes and keep your head down. |

Ralen Zateki
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2014.02.12 00:54:00 -
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Muestereate wrote:oh crap they are all running locator agents on you so they can kill you in your noob ship with a dreadnut. Stay out of low sec, get a retriever, buy a copy of excel and skill books and learn how to set skills and develop skill plans and ship fittings. Park at a trade hub so you don't have to fly for parts pickup, buy some plexes and keep your head down.
Ya... I was lookin for a place to hunker down and grind out some high - sec mining... (I know I know... but hey, a cool $1 mil per pop is a lot for me right now and u should know that within 24 hrs I expanded my average haul intake from $1 mil to $4.5 mil. That's 450% growth per day for you trolls that can't add.) 
Anyway... ended up picking a system that was several jumps either way from essential supplies. *facepalm.*
Another funny thing I just discovered today... for awhile in the first couple of days I was running around in a Frigate with a warp stabilizer fitted and completely oblivious to the fact that my tracking range was horrible. *facepalm.*
I've got a good plan (I think... I keep learning crap that makes me twerk I mean tweak it.) for both building up some mining capability (for those fat stacks...) and building up to my first cruiser.
It's rather sweet... while I grind out Massive Scordite I plot world domination. Or perhaps just a path to a decent first cruiser build.
O yea... forgot to add... I went into "Burning Down the Hive" knowing it's notorious for giving noobs trouble. I was thinking "not this guy" and all smug about myself ... you know.. thinking I had a decent fit and what not.
So I go in blazing with my destroyer... yes... destroyer... and got web-i-fied and swarmed and totally annihilated. (By the time I figured out what was going on it was too late... I almost pulled it off.)
Very humbling. But yes, I learned a ton just in that one fight. Went back in with a Frigate and cleaned house. It was probably the event where the difference between mobile sniping tactics and armor tank finally clicked. My prob was I didn't have enough tank the first go around. :P
Anyway... this thread could probably be merged with "the things that noobs do" or whatever it's called.
I'll leave u with this... I've ventured into 0.6 space to do some mining. That's right. You can't stop me (well... u probably could but, er...) I'm living on the edge. :P
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4169
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:07:00 -
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You are not a real player until you fill all your character slots.
One AFK miner, one AFK gate camper and one fully active forum alt.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Ralen Zateki
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:12:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:You are not a real player until you fill all your character slots. One AFK miner, one AFK gate camper and one fully active forum alt. Mr Epeen 
So much to live up to.... I'll remember u when I rule the universe.  |

Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
505
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:22:00 -
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Ralen Zateki wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:You are not a real player until you fill all your character slots. One AFK miner, one AFK gate camper and one fully active forum alt. Mr Epeen  So much to live up to....  I'll remember u when I rule the universe. 
Smart player, has Ambition, enjoys EvE, managed to get a 3 page thread without (much) trolling. We'll hear from this man in the future....
PS: you can rule the universe in many ways, but not all of m together! (Trademogul, Industrygiant, Nullsec Lord, Third party service provider, etc) First immigrant arrives for the Ayem Colony project! Shiigeru wreckage site will be salvaged & cleared in a joint Gallente/Caldari operation |

Ralen Zateki
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:33:00 -
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Jandice Ymladris wrote:Ralen Zateki wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:You are not a real player until you fill all your character slots. One AFK miner, one AFK gate camper and one fully active forum alt. Mr Epeen  So much to live up to....  I'll remember u when I rule the universe.  Smart player, has Ambition, enjoys EvE, managed to get a 3 page thread without (much) trolling. We'll hear from this man in the future.... PS: you can rule the universe in many ways, but not all of m together! (Trademogul, Industrygiant, Nullsec Lord, Third party service provider, etc)
:D
What about Taco Delivery King? Even capsuleers eat Tacos.... |
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