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Oiras Isimazu State War Academy Caldari State 14	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:21:00 - [1] - Quote I wonder if this is the best channel to post about Cosmic Anomalies. I found this link Cosmic Anomaly with the Difficulty (level). ok, I'm starting to do those and wonder what kind of info I can find. I'm trying to generate more income from running those than my current cost. As of my last tried it costed me over 9.1m to 21m compared to 900k I made in about 9 hours. That takes in account other activities I did to get prepared and some mission running. Obviously, it is not the most profitable activity for me so far. At least I managed to test the amount of ISK that I generated and that it costed me. I'm trying to get a BH ship set up and increase my skills for that. I read about the new SoE ships and understand they are for new sites. I find them more dangerous and I'm quite sure I'd have to lose more before I can get income from that.
Batelle Komm susser Tod 1645	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:25:00 - [2] - Quote what is your question? Why did it cost you 9.1m - 21m, and why did you only make 900k? What anomalies were you running? "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.
Oiras Isimazu State War Academy Caldari State 14	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:39:00 - [3] - Quote Thank you very much Batelle. Q. What anomalies were you running? The Blood Yard is a moderately difficult cosmic anomaly associated with the Blood Raider Covenant. It is commonly found in low security space in regions infested by members of the group. I was at Wave 1 since there was 1x out of 2 x Blood Heavy Missile Battery There possibly was 2 x Cruisers (Corpum Arch Sage) and 1 x Battleship (Corpus Archon) Although I didn't verify that yet. This definitely was too hard for me, and although I managed to survive, should not attempt again until stronger. I am not sure if it was a level 4 type since I read Battleship are associated with level 4. Q. Why did it cost you 9.1m - 21m? This came from a BC loss of 10m at 42m or 34m ship cost - 35m insurance. Funny enough, you can buy a BC, insure it and make 1m or more. I found some at around 24m in NS. I am quite sure the insurance would still pay 35m. The other costs on top of that were the fitting cost of the BC. Add rigs to it and it would be another 10m or more... Q. Why did you only make 900k? That was from a mission for which I got around 110k. It was a low sec security mission. I had to destroy some pirates. That was easy and went quite well, although I may have lost a drone or 2. I then got a bonus for 100k for completion withing 2 or 3 hours. I then got a bonus from killing pirates in the form of bounties from which a (very small) cut was taken. I made a bit more from ratting in Highsec I believe, and that was easy and just under a million. I made a BC with Salvager and Tractor Beam to collect the wreck. This went on pretty much for 9 hours which took my whole day. Of course I manage to test the mission and test ratting. I was trying to test to see how much I could earn from NS ratting. It seems they may be too hard for me to beat. I'd have to verify the type of NPC Pirates difficulty to know what I need to beat them. Multiple ships or a fleet will definitely help for that. I'm concerned with the exact amount, and finding what that exact amount is even if it is a loss. I want to compare with Bazaar income, and mining income. I almost manage to make 1m per hour mining (I find it low). That above mining income is not including an Orca but only with 3 Retrievers at best. I sometimes add a 4th Venture although it gets too laggy and I tend to loose it. Q. what is your question? 1. I wonder if this is the best channel to post about Cosmic Anomalies. 2. ok, I'm starting to do those and wonder what kind of info I can find.
Tauranon Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 724	Posted - 2014.02.11 00:37:00 - [4] - Quote I'm studying nullsec anoms now, but its literally 5 months of work, and its still a long way from finished, due to escalation and commander rates being low, and needing hundreds of samples to get estimates for rates. Anoms basically have 4 things to learn. the normal spawn pattern the alternate spawn pattern if it exists (usually identified with different structures/npcs in the first wave) there is a commander spawn, what type and how often there is an escalation, what type and how often. IMO a young character would be best served by doing the highsec "den" anomoly, as that has a high proportion of commander spawns, and a frequent escalation. The escalation may of course be too hard for you (ded 5), but it is a fairly valuable escalation. The commander on offer is a cruiser commander which appears equivalent to the cruiser commander you would find in a lowsec belt, and spawn rates appear to be as high as 8% of all dens. Having done the serpentis den a lot, I'd say that the escalation rate is likely 4% and the commander rate is likely 8%, and the commanders eventually gave me lg snake implants and other valuables. I don't know where Yards escalate to, but would naturally expect the ded 5, one problem with studying yards is that they are lowsec only and you have to keep hunting them to find them which makes it very hard to get complete info, where as nullsec anoms I can respawn via my ihub and thus do many more at a time.
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 21154	Posted - 2014.02.11 01:05:00 - [5] - Quote Oiras Isimazu wrote: Q. what is your question? 1. I wonder if this is the best channel to post about Cosmic Anomalies. 2. ok, I'm starting to do those and wonder what kind of info I can find. Answer : 1 - Yes, this sub-forum channel (Missions & Complexes) is the correct one to post about Cosmic Anomalies. 2 - Aside from using Google Search, Evelopedia has most of the sites documented fairly well. Now about the amount of ISK invested compared to the amount of ISK gained. You have to give it time, can't compare it just after one session. The initial investment is only paid once (if you don't lose your ship) whereas completing sites is a continuous effort which increases the amount of ISK gained each day. As for high security Minmatar space, I've found that the 'Angel Hideaway' anomaly has the highest chance of Commander NPC spawn, about 10%. The 'Angel Burrow' has about 5% chance to spawn Commander NPC. Those sites don't escalate but the 'Angel Refuge' anomaly has a very good chance of escalation to DED 5/10 site - Angel's Red Light District. When doing high sec exploration, those sites are a good fallback when there isn't any Cosmic Signatures available to run. Hope this helps. DMC
Cage Man 422	Posted - 2014.02.11 01:41:00 - [6] - Quote lvl4 missions in hs are going to give you the most consistent isk. complexes\DED sites are not guaranteed to give you anything as far as escalations or decent bounties. You probably better of getting in a fast high dps ships and hitting the belts in ls and ns for the bounties. To make ns ratting/anom running work you need to be in a corp/alliance in good space as a new player. It is possible to ninja other peoples anoms.. but it takes some effort and a scouting alt. You should join a decent corp that can help you grow, unless of course this is a forum alt :). That way you can run missions with them and maybe get the salvage to help build up some isk. A destroyer works better than a BC for salvaging, noctis is what you want though google should get you to a fit that someone has used to do these type of sites. You can also look for sir livingstons, jonypew, he has a lot of you tube vids on exploration. There are some in game channels that will have players to help you out.. can't remember them of the top of my head :( Just drop me an evemail and when I log on I will send you their names.. The thick plottens... CCP, When can my crane get its black paint job back??
Oiras Isimazu State War Academy Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:25:00 - [7] - Quote I now rat in HS and avoid LS due to pirate if possible. I have a fitted cane with 3 Warp Stabilizer for in case and when I get tackled. I will soon put 4 or 5 to increase it's escape ratio. I went to 0.0 yesterday to verify about the types of combat anomalies rats. They mostly are level 6 and up except for 1 level 5 which is too high for my fit. I'd have to change my fit to beat those level 6 or get a BS. I can afford a BS though I don't know the insurance value yet. If I have to do it in 0.0, I can afford a carrier with Drones. That should give me more firepower although it'd increase my risk ratio too high. I cannot afford to loose a BS yet. I would need to run at least 100 BC anomalies to make it worthwhile and be able to afford the loss. To make matters worst, I had to scout to find the rat value in 0.0. The place was also infested with enemy alliance which I'd have to clear to avoid getting killed. That also doesn't bring the looted content to a safe place. It only took me 28 seconds to safely log off in my rookie ship but it's the safest thing to do. The money is awful and I can't keep doing this. I tested and found my investment cost to overdo the income gained from this ratting. I most likely would have to ship my equipment back to Jita for around 100m. That equipment costed me another 230m without 2 jump bridges at 100m or 50m+ each + fuel. I can clear the Den but not the yard with my current fit. I didn't test FW or Incursion successfully, but Bazaar trading will be better for me. I suspect that it would cost me more than I would gain to do FW and Incursions as well... I could defeat those level 6 and up rats except that I would need 2 or 3 accounts to do so. 4 accounts would require me to multi-box which is not worthwhile for me at this time. Multi-client with 4 or more pilots has a 50% chance+ that the lag will likely kill one of them . I'll be Bazaar trading and then try FW or Incursion in group after making 100% profit or more. (I also know that scamming requires no skill, but other than Bazaar are all scams to me.) The recent Coalitions battles should help to fuel that.
Oiras Isimazu State War Academy Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:27:00 - [8] - Quote Also, I forgot, this Cosmic Anomalies would be best posted in the EVE General Discussion channel.
Batelle Komm susser Tod 1832	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:35:00 - [9] - Quote you should join a corp. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.
Orlacc 610	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:51:00 - [10] - Quote Cosmic Anomalies are Complexes. Hence this is the right place. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Batelle Komm susser Tod 1832	Posted - 2014.02.19 18:44:00 - [11] - Quote Orlacc wrote: Cosmic Anomalies are Complexes. Hence this is the right place. Not according to any common usage of either word. But this is still the right place. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.
Orlacc 610	Posted - 2014.02.19 20:39:00 - [12] - Quote EVE usage Grasshopper. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Oiras Isimazu State War Academy Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.02.19 21:00:00 - [13] - Quote The Complex are from the Factional Warfare. Anomalies are not Missions to COSMOS sites, exploration and complexes... (Missions & Complexes) They are not PVP in EVE: including Factional Warfare, 0.0 campaigns, low sec skirmishes and empire wars. (Warfare & Tactics) They are not the latest scam, hire a mercenary to seek revenge or brag about your kills. (Crime & Punishment) I already am in a Corporation and for that you can add another 2 billion + cost even with a free 500m. Total costs at over 13b now. Where do you see that I would make money from any of those venture? I would square and cube it!
Salvos Rhoska Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 21	Posted - 2014.02.20 07:15:00 - [14] - Quote I run highsec Angel Combat Anomalies while probing for Combat Signatures. I use an active shield arty Cynabal for all of them with little to no problems (while skilling for HAC). I warp to 10km in the Anomalies and cycle targets while still in the f10 map interface. I dont even need to move except for an occassional keep range command.None of the Angel sites in highsec has scrams (except 1 escalation ohase in high sec I think). Avoid the Drone sites. They are crap ISK. Income varies dramatically depending on drops and Signature availability, but I prefer this style to grinding missions. I havent kept accurate count but I estimate about 1bil a week for 5-6hrs of play a day.
Tauranon Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 788	Posted - 2014.02.20 07:15:00 - [15] - Quote Oiras Isimazu wrote: I now rat in HS and avoid LS due to pirate if possible. I have a fitted cane with 3 Warp Stabilizer for in case and when I get tackled. I will soon put 4 or 5 to increase it's escape ratio. I went to 0.0 yesterday to verify about the types of combat anomalies rats. They mostly are level 6 and up except for 1 level 5 which is too high for my fit. I'd have to change my fit to beat those level 6 or get a BS. I can afford a BS though I don't know the insurance value yet. If I have to do it in 0.0, I can afford a carrier with Drones. That should give me more firepower although it'd increase my risk ratio too high. I cannot afford to loose a BS yet. I would need to run at least 100 BC anomalies to make it worthwhile and be able to afford the loss. To make matters worst, I had to scout to find the rat value in 0.0. The place was also infested with enemy alliance which I'd have to clear to avoid getting killed. That also doesn't bring the looted content to a safe place. It only took me 28 seconds to safely log off in my rookie ship but it's the safest thing to do. The money is awful and I can't keep doing this. I tested and found my investment cost to overdo the income gained from this ratting. I most likely would have to ship my equipment back to Jita for around 100m. That equipment costed me another 230m without 2 jump bridges at 100m or 50m+ each + fuel. I use a dominix to rat. It shoots up to 26m isk/tick or ~75m/hr. It would take 3 or 4 hours to pay off the fit. I have never lost a spaceship to anomoly rats, and its likely that I'd only ever lose a spaceship in an anomoly because I fell asleep or another player killed me (which is pretty likely if I fall asleep anyway in null).
Oiras Isimazu State War Academy Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.02.20 15:21:00 - [16] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: I run highsec Angel Combat Anomalies while probing for Combat Signatures. I use an active shield arty Cynabal for all of them with little to no problems (while skilling for HAC). I warp to 10km in the Anomalies and cycle targets while still in the f10 map interface. I dont even need to move except for an occassional keep range command.None of the Angel sites in highsec has scrams (except 1 escalation ohase in high sec I think). Avoid the Drone sites. They are crap ISK. Income varies dramatically depending on drops and Signature availability, but I prefer this style to grinding missions. I havent kept accurate count but I estimate about 1bil a week for 5-6hrs of play a day. At best, without including the patch times: 5 days x 5 hours per week = 25 hours per week. My costs are $20 for 12 hours, $40 for 24 hours. = More than 1.2b at the current PLEX rate. Success ratio 0% of 0% = 0%. Time to achieve resolve, the best so far. You win the EVE online price of the year and last year and the year before that too! CONGRATULATIONS!!! New cost = $2 per half hour, $4 per hour. Patching time reduce to almost nothing or under 5 minutes. Also, no drops, having to patch again for 1 hour +, and mic functional (important for Tactics). The Combat Anomalies are Scan Group: Cosmic Anomaly \| Group: Combat. The Drones are the same groups. I will try to do that in NPC null with a group of allies in a few days or months but it may prove useless. For one, my high costs makes Character Bazaar much more efficient. Since I like efficiency, it makes it more attractive to me. Everyone suggest me to try something else, except one person out of over 100 (so less than 1%). Oddly enough for the certainty ratio (which is a scientific engineering term), that is the only person right. The main problem to the NPC null conditions will be the group aspect and the logistic to share the rewards. I am more than 80% sure that BH is still the best route for me, after 95% of Character Bazaar. Trying anything else leads to warfare scope of over $300k which I cannot afford at this time. Needless to say, at $4 per hour, or $10 for 3 hours, my costs are twice as high as $5 for 3 hours. $40 for 12 hours, $80 for 24 hours or some lower amounts, rounded up. That equates to not 2 PLEX but 4 which is 2.2b, more than my Alliance + Shipping cost.
Shiloh Templeton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 96	Posted - 2014.02.20 15:27:00 - [17] - Quote Batelle wrote: you should join a corp. Or get your head examined. From reading some of his other threads, there must be something interesting going on in there and science deserves to know.
Zeeba Nabali Benevolent Buccaneers 3	Posted - 2014.02.20 15:33:00 - [18] - Quote You lost me, man... Anyway, can I have your stuff? Go North, it's warmer
Heyosi Pserad Quafe Art Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 0	Posted - 2014.02.20 15:35:00 - [19] - Quote Shiloh Templeton wrote: Batelle wrote: you should join a corp. Or get your head examined. From reading some of his other threads, there must be something interesting going on in there and science deserves to know. So do I deserve of the benefits of science. Not the other way around, be a victim of science. I can were you would want science to cause me damage though, it only does reinforce the case.
Oiras Isimazu State War Academy Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.02.20 15:38:00 - [20] - Quote Shiloh Templeton wrote: Batelle wrote: you should join a corp. Or get your head examined. From reading some of his other threads, there must be something interesting going on in there and science deserves to know. Actually I have to for work. I deserve of the science. Not the other way around, be victimized by your science, which would only serve to reinforce the scam case.
Oiras Isimazu State War Academy Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.02.20 15:50:00 - [21] - Quote Tauranon wrote: I use a dominix to rat. It shoots up to 26m isk/tick or ~75m/hr. It would take 3 or 4 hours to pay off the fit. I have never lost a spaceship to anomoly rats, and its likely that I'd only ever lose a spaceship in an anomoly because I fell asleep or another player killed me (which is pretty likely if I fall asleep anyway in null). Where does it shoots up 26m isk/tick or ~75m/hr? Is it in null Cosmic Anomalies? If so, what difficulty level are they? What is the minimum difficulty level? What about the maximum difficulty level? If not: - is it in FW? FW Plexing? - or is it in Incursions? Either way, due to the accrued research cost to get any relevant information, Character Bazaar is best for me. I can safely say that more than 1,000% of my test were inconclusive and different than previously described. I would lose a BS in null sec very fast to carriers, and groups of 10 frigates and the like. There is constant warfare and cloaked ships in the system. I have to learn Survey on my under 900k SP Alt to get better D-Scan results... I want to prepare to do that for after I finish Character Bazaar Trading to make some ISK. After I get 5b to 10b from that, I will try to test Anoms again, but it will be changed. I'm almost certain that it will be changed.
Oiras Isimazu State War Academy Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.02.20 15:57:00 - [22] - Quote Zeeba Nabali wrote: You lost me, man... Anyway, can I have your stuff? I wish. It would fall under psychological warfare too. I'll be trading on Character Bazaar for the next 2 years from February 2014 to February 2016. (If the game exist for that long.) If not then 2.5 years until August 2016. That also means I won't be updating my DUST 514 characters. That also means I may not update work on EVE Valkyrie.
Treborr MintingtonJr Quantum Reality R n D Spaceship Samurai 176	Posted - 2014.02.20 15:58:00 - [23] - Quote Just need to clarify. Am I the only one who has no idea what is going on in this thread?
Oiras Isimazu State War Academy Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.02.20 16:13:00 - [24] - Quote Treborr MintingtonJr wrote: Just need to clarify. Am I the only one who has no idea what is going on in this thread? Just to make sure to be crystal clear: What is going on in this thread is about Cosmic Anomalies and PvE. What psychological warfare is being thwarted are attempts to hijack the thread with allusion of confusion, sanity and so on. The usual psych warfare attacks and of course, arguments about profit away from the Bazaar potential profit. It shall come as no surprise even though the test results are 100% accurate and diversion from profit to failure occurs. That also goes even though the precision level is also higher than needed or required.
Treborr MintingtonJr Quantum Reality R n D Spaceship Samurai 177	Posted - 2014.02.20 16:42:00 - [25] - Quote To OP I have a lot of experience with Cosmic Anomalies, DED and PvE AND being safe from gank in Nullsec yet I can't apply any of this knowledge here. Give me a specific question. Some examples I can run this DED complex https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Cartel_Prisoner_Retention in a Dominix for the possibility of looting a Machariel BPC. Also I like to run Angel Forsaken Rally Points also in a Dominix at one every 20 mins for something like 25mil per tick. Ask away.
Oiras Isimazu State War Academy Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.02.20 17:36:00 - [26] - Quote EVE Mail sent, I forgot to mention, we could post the EVE mail content here if it is worth it. I would prefer test it before however as most information doesn't apply to me. At least it would give me a more accurate idea and more accurate records as the results before posting. That and the potential 1m ISK to 10m ISK + to have someone else redact the post before.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 6299	Posted - 2014.02.20 21:30:00 - [27] - Quote One time bump to fix forum.
Ginger Barbarella Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1876	Posted - 2014.02.21 00:49:00 - [28] - Quote OK, well, I'm not entirely certain what you're asking either, but it sounds to me like you're running anoms that you aren't ready for. Period. Get your core skills up, and don't fly what you can't competently fly (and succeed with) in normal PvE missions. What's costing you money is the losses, plain and simple. Youre' losing 9m to 12 mil because you're "doing it wrong". Second, look at this chart from the Wiki: Cosmic Anoms Stay away from the Anom classes you're not ready for. I can't imagine losing a BC to a high sec anom, but whatever. Get your core skills up, and get the skills up for the weapon system on your chosen ship. If you're only making 900k ISK profit in 9 hours you're clearly not ready for anoms. Third, I have no idea what a "BH" ship is... ???? Fourth: given what you're losing and your obvious lack of skills, don't even considering buying an SoE boat unless you love wasting ISK. Take a couple months to get your core skills up, do some missioning to learn tactics for PvE, and try again with T1 ships and cheap fits. If you're asking about something other than I've noted above (like I said, not sure about your original post, probably because of a language barrier), perhaps you could ask a bit more clearly. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Tauranon Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 789	Posted - 2014.02.21 12:59:00 - [29] - Quote Oiras Isimazu wrote: Tauranon wrote: I use a dominix to rat. It shoots up to 26m isk/tick or ~75m/hr. It would take 3 or 4 hours to pay off the fit. I have never lost a spaceship to anomoly rats, and its likely that I'd only ever lose a spaceship in an anomoly because I fell asleep or another player killed me (which is pretty likely if I fall asleep anyway in null). Where does it shoots up 26m isk/tick or ~75m/hr? Is it in null Cosmic Anomalies? If so, what difficulty level are they? What is the minimum difficulty level? What about the maximum difficulty level? Shot these today. Bounty Prizes26,516,459.85 ISK Bounty Prizes23,261,047.35 ISK Bounty Prizes24,187,535.80 ISK Yes, nullsec, this was alternating between gurista forsaken rally point and gurista hub, which are the best 2 anomolies in my system at the moment. The first forsaken rally point in the sequence escalated too. Neither gurista forsaken rally point or gurista hub are very hard. You can probably do a little better with gurista forsaken hubs. Quote: I would lose a BS in null sec very fast to carriers, and groups of 10 frigates and the like. There is constant warfare and cloaked ships in the system. There are 2700 nullsec systems, find a safer one, or work out what politics are required to make one safe. In the above 3 ticks nobody else came into my system. if you aren't very good at fitting ships (it sounds like you aren't), you should practice at level 4 missions for a while, and skill to make them faster (ie T2 tanks, T2 weapons, max out your support skills etc).
Oiras Isimazu State War Academy Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.02.21 16:13:00 - [30] - Quote Ginger Barbarella wrote: OK, well, I'm not entirely certain what you're asking either, but it sounds to me like you're running anoms that you aren't ready for. Period. Get your core skills up, and don't fly what you can't competently fly (and succeed with) in normal PvE missions. What's costing you money is the losses, plain and simple. Youre' losing 9m to 12 mil because you're "doing it wrong". You know that cannot be true. I have lost absolutely nothing in anomalies so far. My costs are higher than the rewards plain and simple, therefore, no matter what I try, it won't cover the costs. That equate to financial losses in terms of higher cost than income or profit. It shouldn't equate to loss of financial data and misinformation in terms of the accuracy of those financial data. This would only makes matters worst and add psychological warfare damage. Ginger Barbarella wrote: Second, look at this chart from the Wiki: Cosmic Anoms Stay away from the Anom classes you're not ready for. I can't imagine losing a BC to a high sec anom, but whatever. That didn't happen, and you clearly misread me. Ginger Barbarella wrote: Get your core skills up, and get the skills up for the weapon system on your chosen ship. If you're only making 900k ISK profit in 9 hours you're clearly not ready for anoms. There are a few reasons why I only made about 900k ISK income or 900k profit (which are not the same) in 9 hours. Also, by the time I would be ready for the anoms, I would have made more investing in Bazaar. (You obviously will stray away from that option as the 99%+ others who are wrongfully and falsely suggesting this to me.) Ginger Barbarella wrote: Third, I have no idea what a "BH" ship is... ???? Bounty Hunter = BH ship. You seem pretty young to me unless it's just me... Ginger Barbarella wrote: Fourth: given what you're losing and your obvious lack of skills, don't even considering buying an SoE boat unless you love wasting ISK. Take a couple months to get your core skills up, do some missioning to learn tactics for PvE, and try again with T1 ships and cheap fits. If you're asking about something other than I've noted above (like I said, not sure about your original post, probably because of a language barrier), perhaps you could ask a bit more clearly. I certainly did have no intentions to consider buying an SoE boat. Most of my posts are related to making ISK and now pointing at the diversion directed at me to make me loose. In no way, shapes or forms any of the suggestions were of any use except the one suggesting me to stick to Bazaar. I have been skilling for 2 years, have 40m SP and 8b worth of capsuleers. I won't give details on null sec zones infiltration, intelligence gathering on any systems or other political possibility. I would be better to buy a capsuleer on the Character Bazaar instead of wasting 2 months of time. That 2 months would eat away at my capsuleer purchasing budget. And it would further add more financial loss, exactly as you suggest it would not. Hence the legit claims of psychological warfare. I am not the kind of guy to try to put or refer to language barrier. I can write in any natural language using Google translate and even can code and program. I also use symbols for communication and being an analyst am more than aware about communication skills. I do that for work. I can build a database of language barrier and code them with some relative reference so at to quickly discern them. (It is pretty vain and lame to think to do so and if meant for psychological warfare, with goals to deny rather than promote.) I was suggested to get a BS to make around from 35m to 70m per hour. I will not and will trade on the Bazaar before for the obvious expressed reasons. Besides, CCP deserves the money, not the other way around.

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