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Gai2
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Posted - 2003.09.17 22:56:00 -
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You are right!
Just as a friend of Katt I know that this is nonsense. Ventran, if you want to ambush someone that day, you had a bad luck picking Katt as a target. Now you are trying to push your luck even further.
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Dark Empress
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Posted - 2003.09.17 22:59:00 -
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I think this is only a desperat act to try to get a lost ship back.. SW is known to replace ships that are lost to accidents.. and he's trying to take advantage of this by claiming that Katt shot first, and that he is the innocent victim here..
I got a feeling that katt was the original victim here.. but as the attacker soon realised, he made a bad move..
And whats with the screenshot? That only prove u got podded... and thats no real news..
U got podded now deal with it!
And to all the lame and coward ppl with the big mouths... only 1 word to say about u... omg!
Empress
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Squirrel
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Posted - 2003.09.17 23:10:00 -
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WOW ventran....your more desperate and retarded than the guy in SI saying i obliterated his armaggedon for no good reason when it was HE who was camping a gate in 0.0 .....u pirates never learn....or russians..but thats a different topic...and y did u go to all the trouble to make up that horrible story... not even a GM would believe that crap...sry if i sound like im flaming...cuz i am...just cant stand ppl like scam artists and lame care bear pirates...
----------------------------------------------- my views are mine...not my corporations.
_______________________________________________ Carfax > guys, please dont pvp here, it messes up the avoid pd kill zones autopilot option |

Ventran Halleck
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Posted - 2003.09.17 23:15:00 -
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Whatever, I dont care anymore. I dont want compensation, (already said this once). I simply wanted a explaination and/or apology because from my point of view I could not have locked and fired at Katt.
Keep this in mind tho, people make mistakes. Even people you are best friends with. I am just as likely, but in this case I didnt. Things happen in this game all the time that make no sense and for no reason that we can understand (after all it is the most complex architechure ever concieved for a MMORPG).
Time will tell.
I consider this closed and over. No hard feelings on my part, just learned to be wary of 'friendlies' as well as hostiles.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.17 23:26:00 -
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ROTFLMAO, you diden't get a ship Ventran Halleck. You got a threat instead. They'll propably tell you that you're KOS if you continue to complain about them.
I kill all SA on sight. Ask Jana Otel, just click on the image for a peek into Da Skillz favorite section of his graveyard.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Squirrel
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Posted - 2003.09.17 23:55:00 -
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lol skillz u are so full of it....
come bring a friend and lets have a party in 0.0........hope u bring the tombstones...cuz u'll need em budd....your complete talk...no bark what so ever...just whinning and flaming on forums...
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Dark Empress
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Posted - 2003.09.17 23:56:00 -
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and Skillz u where one of those lame and coward ppl I was thinking about..
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.09.18 00:08:00 -
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if its YOUR graveyard..doesnt that mean your buried there? as the saying goes "If the undead were so tough, They'd still be living"
------------------------------------------------ Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |

Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.18 00:15:00 -
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I make the rules, not you. I have a huge head start in corpses and ships, dear SA.
Sorry for not fighting on your terms.

Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Sinsemillia
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Posted - 2003.09.18 00:58:00 -
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Quote: lol skillz u are so full of it....
come bring a friend and lets have a party in 0.0........hope u bring the tombstones...cuz u'll need em budd....your complete talk...no bark what so ever...just whinning and flaming on forums...
So you dont spend all your time stealing ore of noobs in 0.8 systems then?  |

Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 18/09/2003 01:10:30
With my present security status? Naw, I don't feel like fighting CONCORD. But I suppose that high security status pirates (ie. exploiters) don't have such problems.
So Sinsemilla, tell me how you can with a -5.0 security status go to a 0.8 system and steal ore? Tell me how you even can get into a 0.5 system to begin with?
So Sinsemilla, you must be an alt. char for some dumb stain alliance corporation. Only they would come up with something so dumb.
My only regret is that stupidity isen't physically painful.

Keep on flaming, lamers.
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eXeCt
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:41:00 -
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The ore theif is Squirrrel with 3 r's.. NOT Squirrel... 
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Sinsemillia
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Posted - 2003.09.18 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Sinsemillia on 18/09/2003 02:07:31
Quote: Edited by: Skillz on 18/09/2003 01:10:30
With my present security status? Naw, I don't feel like fighting CONCORD. But I suppose that high security status pirates (ie. exploiters) don't have such problems.
So Sinsemilla, tell me how you can with a -5.0 security status go to a 0.8 system and steal ore? Tell me how you even can get into a 0.5 system to begin with?
So Sinsemilla, you must be an alt. char for some dumb stain alliance corporation. Only they would come up with something so dumb.
My only regret is that stupidity isen't physically painful.

Im no alt, ive been playing this game for just under 3 weeks now. As the above poster pointed out, I got the wrong person Hope he dosn't take offense....
Skillz, wasn't it just under 2 weeks ago you set your swarm of drones on me in a 0.4 system for "stealing your cans". I'm still rather confused how i could have done this in a rifter, please explain. Unless it was another badass pirate in a thorax, preying on noobs in frigates..... A proud member of the Concord Waste Recovery Team |

Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.18 02:31:00 -
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Yes, I killed you. I diden't get your corpse though.
You see, I claim all ore in Sinq Laison, like Stain Alliance does in Stain. I do not allow mining at all in Sinq Laison.
You diden't have a 'passport' so I killed you.
I learn from the worst of pirates.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Sinsemillia
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Posted - 2003.09.18 02:48:00 -
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Lol fair point Just a shame that you had to make up a BS reason for the kill, spam me via evemail and brag about the kill in local. Guess we all get turned on by different things  A proud member of the Concord Waste Recovery Team |

Katt
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Posted - 2003.09.18 03:34:00 -
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Just to put this thread to bed as it should have been long ago.
1) The incident took place at a gate where I was locked on and fired on first. I returned fire and destroyed my attacker's ship. If he was loaded out poorly for such a fight, he shouldn't have started it.
2) I don't use a passive targeter, as my last mid slot was taken up by a warp scrambler.
3) I used a 7500m, strength 2 scrambler. If he had to zoom way out and look around to see me after firing on me first when I was only about 6000m away......
4) My attempts to converse after the firing started were all rejected, so I finished the kill.
Conclusion: Some inconsistancies in his story. I regret having to destroy a ship of a normally very friendly corp, and don't hold any sort of grudge against the corp itself, but would defend myself again if the situation came up.
There will be no further posts on this thread by me, don't bother replying.
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.09.18 04:00:00 -
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finally..the other side of the coin
------------------------------------------------ Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |

Ivanova
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Posted - 2003.09.18 04:13:00 -
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I have spoken with Katt in the past and, obviously as I am in his corp, Ventran. Neither are the type to go off and attack another player out of the blue, so I can only conclude that the battle was due to a misunderstanding, some sort of bug or series of bugs, a combination thereof, or that I simply don't know. Stranger things have happened. <shrug> -- "Never use a sledgehammer to drive a thumb tack." |

Ventran Halleck
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Posted - 2003.09.18 04:29:00 -
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If katt was seeing the enviroment around a gate and I was seeing a asteroidbelt with npc's them something must have been really wacked in that system.
I do know I was in a belt, that was my purpose being there, to mine and hunt npc.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.18 13:30:00 -
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See Ventral Hallek, all Katt's corpmembers says that she 'doesen't' do such things and that SA are not pirates.
Conclusion: You don't get redeemed, you get screwed.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Joe Motorhead
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Posted - 2003.09.18 14:43:00 -
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Mark them both -5.0 security status in people and places so you know they are around.
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The Monk
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Posted - 2003.09.19 09:20:00 -
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Its ironic isnt it, SA attack us on the forums sayiny we kill innocent peopel with out asking any questions 1st when it looks like they are happy to do that anyway. Very very ironic. ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |

TIvian
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Posted - 2003.09.19 11:41:00 -
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I have to admit. I was sent to Stain space by a friend as a joke. I had been out of game for about a month and in that time they where formed. When I was out there I did receive a message asking what I was doing out there. I told the person that contacted me that a what my side of the story was. they laughed and asked me to leave as soon as possible. Not rude in any way nor was I threatend. they took the time to tell me why. said if I wanted to hunt there then contact the person that handed out permits. they didn't chase me and let me go on my way. So for Stain to have a rep as pirates blows me away. and Katt has more people saying nice things about her/him. I too have had strange behavior from this game at times and thought I was going crazy of some thing. but I have never heard of anything negative by Stain Allience. And no my corp is not a member. just an outsiders point of view
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |

Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.19 15:32:00 -
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Let's be friends and watch a movie.
Lost in Space Movie
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Ventran Halleck
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Posted - 2003.09.19 16:39:00 -
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JWJ-P1 is in Curse region, not Stain.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.21 03:20:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 21/09/2003 15:58:06
SA is b0rk.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Raucus
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Posted - 2003.09.21 13:28:00 -
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Quote: Just to put this thread to bed as it should have been long ago.
1) The incident took place at a gate where I was locked on and fired on first. I returned fire and destroyed my attacker's ship. If he was loaded out poorly for such a fight, he shouldn't have started it.
2) I don't use a passive targeter, as my last mid slot was taken up by a warp scrambler.
3) I used a 7500m, strength 2 scrambler. If he had to zoom way out and look around to see me after firing on me first when I was only about 6000m away......
4) My attempts to converse after the firing started were all rejected, so I finished the kill.
Conclusion: Some inconsistancies in his story. I regret having to destroy a ship of a normally very friendly corp, and don't hold any sort of grudge against the corp itself, but would defend myself again if the situation came up.
There will be no further posts on this thread by me, don't bother replying.
Here we go...the 'log isnt there' excuse...simple treat the SA the same as every other pirate organisation... POD on site.... and for god sake come up with an original story Katt..... You murdered someone without warning so you could steal kit, and now your crawling under your SA rock and protesting your innocence..... you go on my POD on site list... your worse than the other pirate scum.... at least they admit what they are.....
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Korath
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Posted - 2003.09.21 16:22:00 -
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Quote: Here we go...the 'log isnt there' excuse...simple treat the SA the same as every other pirate organisation... POD on site.... and for god sake come up with an original story Katt..... You murdered someone without warning so you could steal kit, and now your crawling under your SA rock and protesting your innocence..... you go on my POD on site list... your worse than the other pirate scum.... at least they admit what they are.....
I find it amazing that every time someone cries wolf against the Stain Alliance, we're automatically guilty no matter what anyone says to defend themselves. Hey here's a big and powerful alliance, they must be pirates, everyone says they are so it must be true. Even if we fire in self defense no one would believe a word because of all these made up stories and half-truth's
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.09.21 23:01:00 -
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human nature for every person that wants to help your team theres 2 in shadows willing to stab you and take your sh*t
------------------------------------------------ Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |

Raucus
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Posted - 2003.09.22 00:18:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Here we go...the 'log isnt there' excuse...simple treat the SA the same as every other pirate organisation... POD on site.... and for god sake come up with an original story Katt..... You murdered someone without warning so you could steal kit, and now your crawling under your SA rock and protesting your innocence..... you go on my POD on site list... your worse than the other pirate scum.... at least they admit what they are.....
I find it amazing that every time someone cries wolf against the Stain Alliance, we're automatically guilty no matter what anyone says to defend themselves. Hey here's a big and powerful alliance, they must be pirates, everyone says they are so it must be true. Even if we fire in self defense no one would believe a word because of all these made up stories and half-truth's
STFU Pirate scum....
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